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>>364089
perhaps we can reevaluate the definitions when there are no more resources left and yada yada doom yada
anon
we will run ourselves extinct in pursuit of it all
anon
scared and sad. only went and triggered myself talking about that shit. it's not as bad as it used to be. just still gets me. it's still kinda fresh wound. when it's just like. two of the closest people you've known who end up getting done for shit. weird
>>364094
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( ´・・)ノ(._.`)
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hope you can unwind for or in a bit maybe, is tough n feel that hough; have cptsd from er my own lot of dumb shit
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bwaa
anon
sorry to hear that anon
anon
I think honestly I should probably steer clear of image boards again. coming here in the first place again was a trauma response from just facing ostracization again.
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maybe for the best if it helps in times like these -u-
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ah, yeah, understandable
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>>364098
if it's harmful please leave, genuinely
it's not worth it and definitely not the point of the place
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yh
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yeah I think I'll try and dip and just deal with the feelings around my most recent ostracisation
>>364105
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o7 welp, nice to meet peeps n take care -v-
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>>364103
If you ever want to request a self ban it can be done
anon
I request a self ban then pls opworm
anon
I am not opworm for the record
anon
I know but when opworm shows up. pls just ban me for some comically long amount of time.
>>364110
anon
I always thought of him as just "the admin"
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>>364112
Take care of yourself anon
Best wishes
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x <3
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you too anons
anon
Always sad to lose a wormie but
SadChan🍉🍉
>>364098
im sry 2 hear that i hope u feel better.
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i dont think its wierd when you are feeling lonely to go to places where people congregate
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its normal and healthy 2 want to be around people i just woke up but I wish u the best
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for loser wierdos like myself places like this r nice because being lonely is really painful
anon
it's true
i could see why anonymous imageboard isn't the safest place however
anon
What's a safe place? no such thing exists in the internet
anon
Either people are shallow and fake to avoid getting punished by a strict moderation, or things are real but much riskier
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>people are only kind etc due to risk of punishment
that's a little grim isn't it
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>>364126
Not what I'm saying. I see lots of kindness here, and there are no rules that force such a thing. In places like these people are nice just because they truly are, but the possibility of people being mean is much more open.
>>364131>>364269
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its a spectrum in terms of places online
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also to do with how or if the power is centralized, the ruleset & social contract there, etc
anon
>>364128
there are rules that necessarily enforce a baseline i guess
but in general, i don't think people either present a fraudulent self just to avoid punishment OR are real and risky
>>364133
anon
it's probably a lot more grey than that
anon
>>364131
Not what I'm saying. I'm saying people are more fraudulent in heavily moderated social media. Also I'm not saying that people are "real and risky", but that in websites like this one you see people that are very kind and people that are very mean just as often.
>>364135
anon
IRL people are much more sincere than in both contexts
anon
>>364133
to the original point about an anonymous imageboard perhaps not being the safest
i meant in that anon's specific case w/ her specific issues
>>364136
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can be a lot more burdensome to vulnerable peeps who need to care for themselves, & being around other ppl who might not be the best for them at the time
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particularly for anyone on ie 4chs lgbt or so on
anon
4chan lgbt board is self harm
>>364141
anon
yeah...
places like 4chan's lgbt and even here tend to attract very strange and predatory people
anon
i don't want this to be a place of self harm personally
that would be tragic
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yea, the scene here is the only reason i consider browsing
anon
I may sound very schizo, but I think constant exposure to 4chan makes people very defensive and willing to say insensitive things, usually in response to an imaginary attack. Also prone to interpreting things the worst possible way.
>>364146
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generally, yeah
anon
>>364144
100% agree
i still have to try and fight off those tendencies, it's very mentally damaging
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having a sort of social darwinism be what guides people with what to say can make people really not react well, particularly when things on the hub are toxic or aggressive
>>364148
anon
>>364148
It's a way of interacting with people that nearly ensures isolating onself.
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also, a lot of judgement
anon
*oneself
anon
Either that or ending up surrounded by very bitter, conflictive people.
>>364154
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<lurk more, [redacted]
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>>364152
bitter, aggressive, conflict prone
it leaves a sense of a hostile world impressed upon people who are exposed too long
>>364156
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guh
anon
>>364154
That "hostile world" sense likely has something to do with the rise of hateful and resentful ideologies in 4chan
>>364157
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also the attention they gain, due to the social darwinism thing in combo w that n other factors
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anon
>>364158
could you elaborate a little
i think i agree but im not sure what you exactly mean
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the only threads that stick around are things that grab attention, they need to be errr
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its a constant sense of competition, making them feel they're having to be or are aggressive etc
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its a mix of things, but due to the way the system works, extreme ideas can flourish more under those conditions
anon
ah yes, the xitter approach
it naturally selects for controversy
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yeah
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thats the darwinism part, it was a harmful theory applied to social situations still seen on 4ch n such
anon
i agree
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and xitter now
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especially since moderation there is worse
anon
it's been supercharged by capital
there's a monetary incentive to host the most controversial attention grabbing disgusting shit
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yeah, also there being algos in control of such
anon
incredible how much damage we could do connecting little bits of copper together everywhere
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this reminds me of a luddite chat i was here for months ago
anon
was there a luddite chat here
anon
what was that like
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convo abt it basically, not luddite only lel
anon
sorry lmao i was referencing the specific instance not a board or something
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nw lelol
anon
it would be absolutely absurd to discard advancements like the microcprocessor or what have you
but the sincere damage the internet is doing is just
i don't know, how do you really solve that problem
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i enjoy talking abt changing the incentives in it, but the ways i see it gone into by ie anprims makes me so guh, cus well
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being disabled & the idea of 'going back' would mean well killing a ton of ppl
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eugenics esc even though many wouldnt realize or think abt how it would function
anon
yeah it's inherent to that kind of 'all or nothing' ideology
the scope of it is so focused and destructive
anon
there's no humane way to 'turn it back'
we can't just retvrn in a way that's not going to do eugenics
anon
changing the incentives of the internet and communications would involve changing the incentives of pretty well the entirety of society
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i didnt want to dive into it, but yes, it would basically be ending capitalism for that; other than smaller changes like decentralizing platforms n so on
anon
i came to the same conclusion
i'm not even sure decentralizing could help
ISPs control the infrastructure which means the country they reside in control the infra etc etc etc
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yea
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there are changes & improvements — or the equivelant of reforms — that could be made, but it's tough in the current state of things
anon
until attention != currency
it's a really immovable object unstoppable force deal
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yeah, & the idea that there's inherently a difference between/that the internet isn't 'real'
anon
i would honestly love to meet the person in this day and age that would make that argument
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I mostly hear it from relatively older ppl & so on who discount things that are serious, but happened or started online
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but when you talk to them or ask certain questions, usually they can't defend that position
anon
of course they can't
that's not a real position anymore
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yea lol
anon
maybe back in the BBS days that was true lol
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I mainly get reminded of it when I see/hear IRL
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it also is reminding me rn of the time the Australian fed tried to ban pron cus they said that small booba women would make men interested in kids
>>364203
anon
must be nice
being retired and completely disconnected from the notions of cause and effect
anon
w-what
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lmao
anon
>>364199
#reply is this real

nice try fed.
is this real
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ill find it
anon
thanks ai you asshole
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can we post links here, i forget
anon
yeah, as long as they aren't malicious/nsfw
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there's a quote telling this specific part of the story in Cybernews doc interviewing Greg Housh, but there's also a lot of articles on the anon response in "OpTitstorm" so
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guh
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theres a famous quote from housh's now wife, I forget how it goes exactly n gives me an excuse to watch part of that bwaa
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("""famous""")
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yeah, cybernews can be cringe w some of their stuff but the interview — ill find the timestamp — is p gud
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around 27:20 is when this ref comes up
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.skip (voted to skip this video)
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.seek 27:20
anon
oh my god that is such a stupid case of telling on yourself WHAT
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lmao
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shall we burn books too is crazy with how things have become
anon
do you live in australia?
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nah, US midwest, pain
anon
ah okay
i wasn't sure if you were talking about AUS sentiment or US
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lel, I think they have sooome stuff like the book stuff 'here' but not on the level of the US, especially since the reaction to this admin
anon
ah ... i miss when anonymous wasn't strictly some fed astroturfing project
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yeah, I did independent conflict aid stuff w some people from there but hearing some of the influence campaigns using them made me dip
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peter thiel esc groups using them to attack US foreign policy targets n all
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tho seeing some of them organizing rn to do stuff recently n on mayday has been nice
anon
i haven't seen a single thing they've done for years
i just assume it's all govt ops
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they dont get nearly as much attention n have been de-prioritized in algo sites
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but they put out a press release/video in january & i forget the name hm
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the exposing of the fed insiders was done a lot by Brown, recommend his recent stuff; he was one of the peeps who got — i think, like a decade — prison time for '''hacking'''
anon
oh one of the people that violated cfa
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that, or leaking charges, i forget specifically what he got but he was put in one of those like
anon
-a
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courts that charge you for, whats the word, something like a tribunal esc thing by nsa or intelligence fed
>>364237
anon
>>364236
#reply

they're called "secret courts" or "fisa courts." basically, shady bs where spooks get warrants to spy on you without normal oversight. they operate in secret, often rubber-stamping mass surveillance, and yeah, you'd never even know if they targeted you. total kangaroo court vibes.
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lel yeah
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he wrote a memoir about all the dumb shit he did & what lead into his real journalism n leaking/cooperation to leak int community docs, n then how they raided him etc
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ah, the current one against authoritarianism esc stuff is OpDreadNought
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opdreadnought.com — they have protest resources on security culture n so on
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whoof i wouldn't touch an anonymous related website with a 10ft pole
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yeah
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I just went to check their socials, they're a splinter ish thing
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not at all touched the site myself
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(he leaked windows 95 before it came out before anon stuff)
anon
nice
im wishing he did a better job
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lmao, yeah same
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the Barrett Brown memoir is about that a lot, it's literally called my glorious defeats so yk
anon
does the monitor next to the host have... have hackertyper open?
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lmao
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I don't think so but imagine
anon
i .. i think it does
anon
hehehehehehehe
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ah that might be
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me hacking:

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>>364260
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I remember knowing a kid who got suspended for having hackertype open in school
>>364261
anon
shes in ..................
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the teachers took it so seriously, it was funny but also like wtf
anon
my school forgot to set group policy that locked powershell
i had a cop show up but was let off because i told the it guy
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>meanwhile im bypassing all of the filters
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lol
anon
they are so uh
idk the school IT stuff was always the playground
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yeah
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we had one of the pilot — POS, cheap — chromebook programs n i remember having a few kids pay me to jailbreak ish them after they failed n we had to get new ones
nama (mobile)
>>364128
i like being nice but sometimes being ebil is inevitably, I do with mostly for jokes
>>364272
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.stop
nama (mobile)
actually always for jokes
anon
>>364271
the aus thing about porn is so telling
i don't know how you could put that out there and not be self aware about it
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yeah, theres been so many err
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scandals w politicians over there in the decade following, usually not of that exact kind but yk
nama (mobile)
is these australian hours? i woke up too early because I was anxious to read
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lel
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ah no, am US
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just talk abt some strange AU thing from 2010
anon
before i forget (or fall asleep sitting at the computer again)
i forgot to ask about what the bellingcat stuff was about
obv if thats not doxing information
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zzz
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Bellingcat is basically if you took journalism & made it work like open source, where you have to provide how you got that info using OSINT & community research; they were the ones who proved/figured out what RU had done in the case of them shooting down the passenger flight MH17
anon
err sorry i do know what bellingcat is
i was curious about what you did
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oh ye
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(didnt see, guh)
anon
my bad .,.,.
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I document things & the info from various places on threats to communities & document things like cybercrime by the worst types of people who are
nama (mobile)
are you a fed

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