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Seems he's breaking up with the trump admin for real now, he's been seething for days at Trump's "big beautiful bill"
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probably just smoke and mirrors in the long run but still.
>>566965
LMAO
Elon cucked out KWAB
>>597533
grim
Set to be the largest demonstration against him, including first term. Will this fix everything? Of course not. But don't you want to push the envelope a little, push his buttons a little, let him know we don't care about his birthday?
If you're American, please find one to attend this Saturday.
https://ground.news/article/what-to-know-about-no-kings-protests-against-trumps-policies-on-saturday_17f755?utm_source=headline-link&utm_medium=share
https://www.nokings.org/
Habeas Corpus is dead there. They're arresting everyone. This is an act of war.
https://ground.news/article/ice-raids-sweep-los-angeles-result-in-44-arrests-and-street-clashes_4ff2af?utm_source=mobile-app&utm_medium=newsroom-share
https://ground.news/article/white-house-aide-calls-los-angeles-anti-ice-protests-an-insurrection?utm_source=mobile-app&utm_medium=newsroom-share
https://apnews.com/article/immigration-protests-raids-los-angeles-78eaba714dbdd322715bf7650fb543d7
>>567359
How many have been arrested?
>>570865
everywhere just says "dozens," seems they haven't released an exact number and are probably continuing to make arrests as well
(of protestors -- they've arrested thousands of immigrants in LA probably, 118 just last week)
a lot of arrests though
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-los-angeles-immigration-protests-trump/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/06/department-of-defense-security-for-the-protection-of-department-of-homeland-security-functions/
https://apnews.com/article/insurrection-act-trump-troops-newsom-military-national-guard-a842f79e1c0e244039be274a6f266a7a
This is bad. This is REALLY bad. I know everything bad Trump does just kind of turns into a background hum of bad idiocy that makes you want to tune out, but this is an honest to goodness HAPPENING.
QRD
>Ice showed up in a parking lot outside a Home Depot and just formed a wall and stood there for no reason
>Protestors showed up and started shouting "pigs go home"
>Ice began shooting literally hundreds of cans of tear gas at protestors for several hours while doing NOTHING. Not arresting anyone or conducting any operation.
>The most the protestors did was drag some home depot carts into the street to block traffic and stand in front of a bus.
>In response to this the entire Trump admin is using a "invaders on our soil, protect our blood, mass deportations withe military now" rhetoric.
>This entire thing was planned to enable Trump to use the military against states that rebel against his regime
>The LA county police departments, under direction from Mayor, County and Governor, have not been assisting ICE and doing basic crowd control but have been pointedly not assisting ICE or providing them protection.
>>566939
I forgor the OP picture #give
>>566939
Basically this is Trump manufacturing a pretext to use the military to barge into your communities and homes to accomplish whatever objective it wants. Be safe, and be aware.
https://nypost.com/2025/05/29/us-news/pure-evil-transgender-woman-who-viciously-stabbed-postal-worker-to-death-in-nyc-deli-sentenced-to-15-years/
This is literally genocidal rhetoric, this is the point we are it American discourse. A trans women gets called slurs and her assailant attempts to beat her to death in public over a minor misunderstanding. The media? They do a full hit piece and demand the maximum sentence. The normal sentencing for a murder in self defense? 5-8 years.
>After the sentencing, Hodges’ furious family members began chanting “It’s a boy!” and “F–king boy!”inside the courtroom as other supporters wore “Justice for Ray” t-shirts.
This was literally a member of a conservative and homophobic family enacting their idealogy of punishing anyone they consider a faggot suffering the consequences of their own actions by starting an unnecessary violent interaction. As they say: Fuck around and find out.
The judge and society? The maximum charge sentence allowable, misgendering and turning the perpetrator of the assault into a folk hero.
By the way, when a straight man had an almost identical situation: https://nypost.com/2024/03/30/us-news/bodega-clerk-jose-albas-self-defense-was-overkill-nyc-lawyers/ the Post idolized the idea of self defense and criticized the liberal lawyers for seeking manslaughter charges for a deli owner defending themselves from an armed robbery.
The difference (other than minor case details obviously) is that in this case a trans person was involved. Its the only thing that serves to differentiate this case from the sea is violent crime that exists in a city of 22 million people. We live in a time when being transgender is to be a targeted minority, complete with smart campaigns, caricature art depicting us as ugly, harsher penalties for the same crimes etc. Be aware, and be safe. If you are a victim in a situation like this, be mindful that the consequences of self defense will be crucifixion unequal to the crime.
This is NYC, so hopefully she goes to a women's prison.
that said, just because ur kind of crazy and have priors doesnt change your status as a victim
(she previously did an armed robbery with a knife)
>>535769
girls cant have fun anymore
as someone who has worked in an ultra orthodox jewish community I cant imagine this person spent much time in such a community
>>331560
>NRX is too niche and monarchist for Americans to stomach, culturally.
>>331560
>NRX is too niche and monarchist for Americans to stomach, culturally.
true but NRX doesn't need grassroots organic support, just engineer a crisis or two by hiring incompitent people with stupid goals and now you have a prime environment to do whatever you want. that being said if you want an indicator of support for NRX ideas, keep an eye on how people react to trump's "freedom cities" garbage.
>>309432
>thoughts
this is just rainbow NRX, hard pass.
They are frustrated with the 'slow' pace of current deportation efforts, with new leaders aiming for a "minimum" of 3,000 deportations a day.
If they average that rate from now until the end of 2028 that would be about 4 million deportations.
1 of every 100 people who reside here, just gone.
But don't worry it's not fascism.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-shakes-up-ice-leadership-over-deportation-levels/
>the far right has joined all democrats to tank the budget bill
>they are mad that there aren't harsher medicaid and medicare cuts
>they're going to set themselves on fire over healthcare AGAIN
lol
>>457217
he's too busy going after the jet
>>444080
based retards
>>444319
this is because we still tolerate expressions of faith as legitimate bases for decision-making and real-world policy that inevitably lead to fascism (see: all forms of spirituality, religion, traditionalism, conservatism, and any other movement or ideology allowed to degenerate into authoritarianism going all the way back)
be careful out there.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/legal-experts-habeas-corpus-stephen-miller-rcna206130
>>430052
#throw
hey could a mod put the op pic on this thread when this gets seen i forgot to upload it
also we are all so fucked haha
So carney just won, looks like the ndp lost most of their seats, jagmeet lost his riding and has stepped down, greens lost one of the seats but Elisabeth may kept her riding on the gulf islands… ontario lost all its ndp ridings, including some that were ndp for over 20 years…
Some surprises…
The political landscape looks pretty stupid.
trump can't stop ruining everything on earth, i love it
libs getting a minority lead was pretty predictable if you weren't surrounded by rabid conservatives and poilievre’s wimpy cult of “personality” … i think theres feffin
>>374777
Well, he seems to win in the US at least, but at the expense of conservative victories in other nations
Are you operating on a level of bullshit that no one understands? Or so outside mainstream political theory that you trigger everyone?
Post your political theories/takes ITT that trigger Earth.
this was the wrong thread
>>359517
wild opinion, nuclear proliferation dramatically increases the probability of misunderstanding or someone falsely assuming they can execute a "limited" exchange. The benefit extracted is that you don't see wars occurring as often... maybe? But you can get similar benefits by expanding the nuclear umbrellas of individual nations.
>>350915
One Party States are generally better.
Specifically children with cancer.
They didn't even wait for the birthright citizenship law, just went ahead and did it illegally.
I am worried what these means for other "undesirable" American citizens in addition to all American Hispanics. Not sure what to make of the implications for future illegal policies though.
Discuss.
https://www.thedailystar.net/news/world/usa/news/us-deports-3-american-children-including-cancer-patient-rights-groups-3881066
to be honest disasters like this are just about what I expected from the outgrowing surveillance and police infrastructure between the NSA, CIA, and increased militarization of police forces. it's strange to me that opposition to such trends have turned out stifled overall. the version of US history where the civil war was a thing that happened ~150 years ago and the resulting division has buffed out into a unified country. though recent events have made it clear that the anti-egalitarian motives of the confederacy have not been extinguished, but instead have been seething and waiting to upend this social order they find an affront when an opportunity for it presents itself
>>373145
this is my impression as well. the reconstruction was given up on in order to preserve the peace, and now we reap as we have sown.
>>374767
it's amazing how we undid most of our civil war progress in broad daylight and then just mass forgot. like what the hell guys
embracing how fucked we are and using it to live for ourselves on our own terms after the death of the communist dream.
what have the recent developments in spectacle had you thinking about?
I was going to add a serious reply, and then I realized this thread was actually made 2 months ago.
>>335787
this site's been around for a while but you can still reply to stuff.... ideas don't expire anon.....
>>335787
you can, it's fine
Context: was here back when it was called brainworm rodeo because I was curious about glegle, surprised by the new branding after not using this place for a while.
How exactly does liberalism work compared to other leftist sects? Does it use dialectics? How does liberal theorycrafting (and praxiscrafting for that matter) work?
>>312192
>goes to leftypol
>>314179
I used to, now I'm bored of it
>>240772
>How does liberal theorycrafting (and praxiscrafting for that matter) work?
the closest thing to a serious theoretical attempt at justifying modern liberalism is probably rawls (specifically A Theory of Justice)
the tl;dr is that you're supposed to imagine laying out the principles of societal organization while not knowing which position within that society you'll occupy, and he thinks if you do that the rule you'll end up following is trying to maximize how good the worst-off people in that society have it in absolute material terms, and concluding that it's fine if large inequalities exist so long as the worst-off are better off materially than they would be in the counterfactual where you didn't allow those inequalities
i'm not that familiar with leftist critiques of rawls, though i'm sure they must exist. nozick had some interesting criticisms from the (economic) right.