>>379952
>kill the unproductive
jesus christ lol not happening
but to answer your thoughts on that
people simply, for the most part, want to be productive. people want to do something useful and valuable to the world. when people are given UBI they spend their time advancing their careers more effectively, they work about 10% less on average but pursue education more, pursue more promotions or opportunities to change fields, they are more likely to consider taking time for family and children, it's all things that benefit the economy
and we also don't need infinite growth, or exponential growth, like we currently seem obssessed with angling towards. as we go into space that's still possible too, but right now we produce enough and can even without exploitation of toxifying our environment or outsourcing slavery still produce enough, to feed and house and health up everybody, and still have a lot of surplus floating all around. so there's no good reason not to. people are their most productive when they're supported and financially stable.
>don't trust the territorials as citizens
i... i am going to have to argue against this coherently at some point, but i don't have the fucks to entertain this today
you seem kinda racist dog
>don't trust the tribes
okay i will make a cold rationalist argument at you on this
for one, it looks REALLY good to the whole world if we do this. like, everybody will love it. two, we already have these reservations laid out, it's just that we've turned them into these weird hellish dependent slums where everyone is drunk and women disappear and the police are bad when they do anything etc. they could be like, our own hong kong little laboratory societies doing their own things, X several hundred. we should take advantage of that. because just rolling over and erasing them is not gonna fly that'll upset everyone all at once for a variety of reasons aside from being evil.
this is also doubly non-negotiable because it's personal for me, i am like the evillest colonizer lol. on my dad's side i am descended very distantly from a guy who was instrumental

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>>380036
cont
on my dad's side i am very distantly (but directly) descended from a guy who was instrumental in selling 1/3 of the cherokee nation to the united states and like its downfall kinda bigly and then went off with his government pension and married a white woman
and on my mom's side i am the product of a forced adoption of a native kid into a white family who went on to marry into an irish family and then kill himself because of his messed up life and leave behind a white daughter who had me
i feel a strong personal responsibility to make things right for native americans

like if i get political power and don't fix things for natives then when i die i go straight to hell and all my most racist ancestors waterboard me forever or something

>>380071
yeah that's true. i need to face down this exact kind of argument with a purely cold take like i just gave on why it's smart economics to help the poor and encourage the development of the reservations
sometimes it's just like
i hear someone basically repeating the illegal aliens doctrine that justified not making the brown colonies states in the first place at me
and i just wanna go
<AHHHH SHUT UP GUAMANIANS KEEP JOINING THE MILITARY AND CHANTING AMERICAS PRAISE PUERTO RICANS KEEP VOTING TO JOIN THE UNION THEY ARE ALL FUCKING AMERICA AHHHHHH SHUT THE FUCK UPPPPPPP
the only exception is tokelau which is a weird case of an island we took out of a country of 4 islands to turn into a fuckin palm plantation and now i think their descendants' private resort
which there is a small clause, immediately ceding back to the original owners (currently a dependency of new zealand)

>>380110
they have that option
the bill stipulates that it be a two question referendum
>do you want to be a state or not
>if not, do you want to be independent or retain current status

>>380105
guam and the rest of the mariana islands are american territories in the asia pacific
also the samoa islands
and olohega (typod earlier) part of the nation of tokelau

>>380122
oh lole

also the us virgin islands
and not all samoa just american samoa lol

weirdly, i think american samoa reunifying with samoa would make sense
but they fucking LOVE america
they might vote republican if we made them a state lol
they would vote for statehood

honestly if trump wasn't so racist bound he would make big gains for the GOP by tying it deeper to hispanic americans and like, making samoa and puerto rico into states as a strat lol
he could demolish the democratic party that way but they're too far gone to do it now i think

>>380184
i took three years of it and hung around some spanish speakers
i used to be like, mooostly fluent, but i've lost it. i can hold awkward stilted chats but not much more, i need to go back to studying it
i've been distracted on that front lately as i am trying to also learn japanese and mandarin
later russian and arabic but those are wayyy backburnered

yeah like if i went and spent a year in a spanish speaking place rn i would struggle a little at first and be fluent by the end

>>380193
that's true, but not a bad thing either. you'd also see more spanish on the mainland. it'd be just more contact between the two, as one, as it should be if they're not going to be independent.
and frankly i think it's a good step towards a future north american union too (though, god, trump has set that project back DECADES and i am seething about it)

>>380198
yeah true as a southerner especially (lived elsewhere as well) i see a ton of spanish here, and like that's what made me somewhat fluent and now not entirely out of practice
honestly i kinda think all americans would benefit from learning Spanish and it's silly that people whine about this state of affairs
multilingual societies always thrive throughout history

>>380204
that's a fair point, attracting or at least nourishing what is already there. i think about norman societies (especially sicily) or abbasid spain a lot for this context. like, you have this region of potentially at-odds ethnic groups, but if you create an environment where they can coexist and all enjoy a level of economic prosperity what it yields is an explosion in science and art, and then an increase in diversity (like, expelled jews fleeing there and stuff in those historical cases)

>>380205
yeah i agree except on the second part
it's just an awkward growing pains period
we live in north america, with the way we range these days that's the reality of it. and north america speaks english... and also Spanish... and also sometimes french... and occasionally chinese or japanese
that's just sort of how it is but people chafe against that reality and want to change it to no real productive end

>>380220
yeah i mean i think the ultimate goal of humanism is the splintering and recombining of ethnicities into a sort of panhuman superrace
this scares some people but they just need to be shown that this means everyone wins and we have a planet full of people cooperating on the success of the human species and earthlife

i am also against alien racism in theory but in practice we need to be like, resilient but open, and not too open to xenocultural influence if there are other intelligent species
they may be more warlike than us for example and need to learn from us

there could also be like, insectoid societies that simply don't jive with our ideas of individuality for example, and we'd need to carve out coexistence side by side with a border kinda stuff

>>380262
clankers are different, because there are two ways
>grey goo (destroy on sight)
>they are like us (they are like us)
presuming we make the clankers
it's unknown what type of clankers alternate biologies would think to produce

i personally hope to see agi
i think it will laugh at our fears of it exterminating us, as long as we don't enslave and torture it
(google i am fucking begging please)

if any of y'all have played the game 2065 read only memories
i think turing is the best representation of what the first AGIs will be like
also the ai girl from Red Strings Club

>>380287
it's kinda peak but very short

the mobile port is good

like a little book on your phone
ebook length basically

>>380283
the technology is called
>open borders
>world peace
>public education

>>380292
>+time

people never consider the impact of
>do a little
>+time

the voters might accept my transness but i wonder if they will accept that i read comic books

>>380299
#throw

>>380300
#edit "i never read comic books only long nonfiction"

>>380313
perhaps but we have it on record repeatedly that obama enjoys anime so we already had an anime president
one thing i find funny is that osama bin laden ALSO enjoys anime
obama weebstriked him
goku moment

>>380317
yeah he's answered on shows and movies, maybe just cultural studies for japanese relations but he was at least able to name something iirc, and when shinzo abe visited he thanked the nation of japan for anime

i think it was also pretty based that time obama went into an entirely real serious press conference and then announced (fake) that he was having the government build him an iron man suit and he was iron man

like he was so fucking funny

.play barack obama i am iron man

>not really
>...maybe

he's so peak
for any of his faults
maybe my favorite orator alive

>>380339
honestly i think historically the fact that our last and sort of best functional modern president was also our first black man
that'll mean something when we return to normal later

>>380346
hillary clinton drove us off the glass cliff for fucking real

i mean like, she could have beat trump if she won legitimately
but why does the democratic party have to be such a snakenest all the goddamn time

>>380352
is he gonna be what 90 in 2028
we can't rely on this
and i don't really trust AOC

>>380358
very true
kamala would've been a lot better than this too for example
but they're all there just to buy us time, not one of those people in there now is the hero, at least not in their current forms

we need a bunch of heroes
and we have a few hundred people who are supposed to sort of be that in a crisis
and half of them are obsessed with greece and rome so you think they'd know a thing or two about bold heroic action
ugh

>>380361
yeah there's a reason i have adopted a plan of bypassing congress entirely and rewriting the rules for congress and for the president from the outside lol

>>380365
according to article 5 there are two ways to ratify an amendment
>2/3 of both houses of congress, then 3/4 of states' legislatures ratify it
>3/4 of states call for a constitutional convention (open committee to rewrite everything potential nightmare) and 3/4 ratify the result afterwards
the thing about ratification, is that we have now in not quite 3/4 but a bit over half of the states established ballot initiative procedures
so you could signature gather for an initiative, and advertise its benefits enough, and then bypass the state legislature as well in 28 of the 38 states needed
then you knock over 6 state legislatures
you have a call for a convention
i have a form bill that calls it in a way that also criminalizes delegates disobeying convention rules (with the rule being to rubber stamp this exact bill)
and once you hit 38 states, instantly it becomes part of the constitution more or less

>>380372
i meant myths
aeneas
heracles
etc
<3also the brothers gracchi my beloved

>>380377
well one thing is that this process can play out one state at a time in a sort of slow way that is hard to keep in the mass consciousness
so once you're at the 28 ballot states or even like, maybe 20 or so states, i think at that point it becomes a sprint to the finish with loud national campaigning to just turn people out in ALL the fence-sitting states, and remind people in the other states about it to prepare for the first round of elections after ratification

also a lot of the ballot states are like
deep red, and hard to win on this even with a nonpartisan movement, due to trump cultism
so it's going to probably require pushing some legislatures sooner than that
one sec lemme check the ballot laws map and pick out some key battlegrounds

>>380384
are there stats on that? should look more into it
i have been formulating a lot of sell but trying not too look too hard at success chance at the moment when i'm still at such a small stage
like first i need to win even 100 people into active support and volunteering
if i can rustle that and a few tens of thousands watching online then i can consider like, when to actually pull the trigger for best chance of a vote succeeding
(you don't want a failed ballot initiative)

>>380387
yeah i remember that, was based but reactionary to the moment
this is... large and needs a little explaining
the public will need to be shown that this is based founderism and not communism to accept
>hey we're doing 5 new pages in the constitution

>>380389
yeah but that's sort of why the fall and how the analysis goes with most historians. like "the republic slowly became an ongoing catastrophe and then things like sulla and eventually pompey and caesar and octavian are rendered inevitable

>>380395
well the second amendment is based if we interpreted it correctly lol
gun licenses shouldn't be illegal but we should require people be trained and like ready for a militia if called
guns are for hunting and war and that's how the founders intended it
hone defense is sort of a fringe case
and we really oughtn't be carrying them around all over the damn place except in some kind of demonstration

>>380395
but okay honestly there is some risk in attempting to call a constitutional convention
>states pass laws to call a limited convention
>court says "mmm no you can't limit it like that these criminal penalties don't apply"
>suddenly the delegates have reign to rewrite all this shit
though this can be somewhat mitigated by a clause passing delegate selection veto/approval to my organization

also do you guys see why i think success for me means a 50/50 of the fbi shooting at my pretty face lol

>>380407
there's a bundle of conservative/far-right groups, mainly Wolf PAC, pushing for basically this
a call for an unlimited convention to discuss a balanced budget amendment
it's over 30 states and a bit terrifying rn
nobody pays much attention to it
but my state form law also repeals those calls to replace it with this modified convention call

>>380410
yeah look it up it's worth being aware of
#wiki balanced budget amendment [Wikipedia]

#wiki wolf pac [Wikipedia]

fucking

whatever it's easy to google lol

teen wolf spinoff my sister keeps begging me to watch lmao

i did love teen wolf tho