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davesprite
>>379819
thought for a second this glegle was pregnant lol
davesprite
>>379824
#edit replace with commentary on how furries are bad written like a human supremacist from deus ex
davesprite
>>379828
#edit replace with "sorry, what i meant to say there was," followed by the poetic waxing about bestial paws and snouts written by andrew hussie in the comic homestuck
>>379830
straw girl
dave will u choke me with a rope
>>379833
rose
>>379834
#edit replace this text with a really good advert for rose orlando, the best indie rock musician girl alive today, telling people to listen to her music and give her money
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lel
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making noms
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pls
rose
>>379834
this kinda fucks rlly hard actually lol
davesprite
>>379840
alright i'll set up some dick ouija foreplay come over
davesprite
that probably sounds really explicit to anyone who hasn't read homestuck lol
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:3
davesprite
straw girl
:0
davesprite
>>379849
idk what scrobbles are but poppin
half a hundred nearly is solid progress. getting the initial few can be hard
>>379853
rose
i will become the biggest musician everrrrrrr RAAAHHHH
>>379894
straw girl
:D
rose
i'll get like internet popular and then called out for being a negative xp clone
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got fuud
rose
yayyy food :3
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c:
straw girl
.play rose orlando alien
notamerican!!dcmzmFf2DM
eehhmm
notamerican!!dcmzmFf2DM
wait
notamerican!!dcmzmFf2DM
how's this started playing in my browser
notamerican!!dcmzmFf2DM
i didnt do anything
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ehe
notamerican!!dcmzmFf2DM
i was in the other tab :-0
notamerican!!dcmzmFf2DM
maybe maybe its fate
anon
internets how do they work
>>379873
notamerican!!dcmzmFf2DM
>>379872
idk but i love my computer
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^w^
notamerican!!dcmzmFf2DM
ahh finally got to my morning coffee
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:>
notamerican!!dcmzmFf2DM
it was waiting for me all day
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need 2 grab sum n do chores
notamerican!!dcmzmFf2DM
>>379880
i think i saw this char somewhere
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CUTE
straw girl
man i wish i looked like a girl
>>379887
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is from vn
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is nicu
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eheh
davesprite
>>379895
what LoD you want on that question :p
straw girl
as much as possible or as much as u want
>>379900
davesprite
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>>379899
that's my favorite answer
::unreal
so okay basically i've followed this research some years ago (erica chennoweth's) that found there is a pretty consistent threshold for like, the success of a revolution
>peaceful movements get all demands met at 2.5% of the population in active revolt
>violent ones same at 3.5%
>can be less, but never fails at that level
so that convinced me we can pull off a plan anywhere, including the US, to just demand like, one law that changes everything for the better
it'll vary by country (most liberal democracies need something like this, i focus on mine to make us an example to the world like we used to be) but here basically it'd just be taking advantage of the specifics of constitutional amendment procedure to bypass congress, and make it so that a popular movement in the vein of occupy wall street or BLM or the prison strikes (or recalling the energy of all these into a new unity movement that can drive out the ten million people we need)
then we hit that 2.5%, next day we have a new bill of rights, all of congress gets thrown into a new election that isn't rigged towards bipartisans or incumbents, and we storm the gates, elect a congress and a president, and implement everything basically obvious that has been getting ignored to rot by successive governments trapped by infighting and corruption and courting fringe voters, essentially behaving like tech companies that neglect core features for flashy bullshit on an almost 150 year timescale since the end of reconstruction.

now, i really can't write out every bit of the law itself here, but i can tell you it's written in a draft form, and what it does and is.
basically after i dropped out of school i spent several years devoting all my personal free time to studying court precedents and constitutional law and different systems of building a republic and a welfare system and a tax system from all over the world across recorded history. and as i was doing this, i wrote and revised over and over and over a draft for a constitutional amendment for the united states
it's a hard sell because i am a nobody lone-writer, but i believe what i've constructed just needs to be passed through some suggested revising by a few expert helpers
looking currently for this from
>constitutional law professors
>i know some judges and retired judges i might contact about it
>already passed it by my lawyer family
>need to seek input from like, prominent black activists, maybe use family national dem connections from that
>need input from tribal leaders if they don't get too many emails to notice my ask
but that's all really just to make sure it's doing what i believe i've written it to do, correctly. and i've already tightened up every sentence and every phrase anticipating future court battles that might occur, it's pretty solid
basically what it does (split into quite a few subsections)
>codify "expanded due process" which makes the constitution's protections of life liberty and property imply a whole bunch of situational rights that support those rights
>codify the civil rights acts (which libertarians are right, are illegal and could get overturned by courts and that's fucking scary) or rather the right of congtess to pass them retroactively
>codify a right from the montana constitution at the national level, to a clean and healthful environment
>mandate all polluting industry and specifically hydrocarbon energy production pay a tax equal to the cost of removing the pollution, or be banned if it can't be removed, and that the government spend that tax on the cleanup (unless they clean it themselves of course)
>abolish tax on all personal (not corporate) incomes and replace it with a tax on the unimproved value of land
>mandate a balanced federal budget except if there's shortfall in a defensive war or a natural disaster
>codify that the right to life has to be supported "as necessary and possible" for a slate of welfare (food, housing, healthcare, clothing, childcare resources)
>end the trustee system and the ability of states to infringe on tribal sovereignty, make the tribes equal to states (but still 'independent', and without congressional representation) and own their own land
>hold immediate referenda in every american territory (unified marianas, unified PR/virgin islands) on statehood or independence or retain current status, binding (this doesn't really need to be in the constitution except congress have been assholes about it for a century now -- sort of like slavery)
>grant DC special federal city status that gives it congressional apportionment equal to a state but still lets congress interfere with its local laws as pertains to national security and also monument preservation
>there's a whole section on just fixing elections, which in short is: replace "most votes" which is mathematically bad with ranked choice, make congress have multimember districts, give citizens the right to recall their representatives and to make laws by ballot initiative in all states and federally, increase the size of congress but fix it to the cube root of the population (this is weird but works, it makes sure we never have too many up to a population of a few billion)
>reorganize congress: make it so the house can make laws without the senate, but they need a majority of states in the house like when presidential elections are tossed to congress, make it so the senate has more of a role as "not really involved in the laws, main job is impeachment police", make house elections six year cycles like the senate to make its role as a combined-powers body work better
>take a bunch of power away from the executive branch primarily relating to military deployments, domestic surveillance capacity, and implementation of a mandate to pursue a policy of no first use with weapons of mass destruction as well as to pursue global nuclear disarmanent (obv president can slack but could also be smacked for violating this), and more strictly binding that presidential actions have to adhere to the constitution, to the law, and to standing treaties, subject to prosecution and removal from office by the supreme court
>some minor things here and there that i believe i have probably forgotten because it's a dense five page document
>there is a section entirely on reorganizing the department of education, this is the most controversial part of the bill probably and is something i waffled on but i think it's the core to future proof democracy
>>379908>>379913
straw girl
::beaary ebil
anon
i have a retarded question. i recently spontaneously acquired a vore fetish and it still bothers and alarms and confuses me that im even enjoying it. where do i go to be an annoying newfag to people who know vore better than me?
notamerican!!dcmzmFf2DM
if i were a president of the us i'd leave only one gender
>>379914
anon
If I were president, I would pick a really competent VP then step down
notamerican!!dcmzmFf2DM
glegle for president 2028
>>379909
straw girl
>>379900
what does codify mean
notamerican!!dcmzmFf2DM
>>379907
does she have us citizenship??
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:>
anon
>>379900
I think some of these are really good ideas, some may be bad, and you won’t be allowed to succeed. and I’m being negative I’m sorry.
>>379917
davesprite
and now, i am officially doxxed when the website is live later
anon
it’s fine I think I used to be scared of doxxing but it was mostly an excuse not to live
davesprite
>>379913
that's alright, i'm used to negativity. i have a plan and this is all worked into it.
what i'm more interested in is what you think are bad ideas here?
straw girl
dave dave what does codify mean
>>379919
davesprite
>>379918
like, to put into writing. in this context, legally codifying something means putting it in the laws, "on the books" basically
so codified in the constitution just means amended into it basically
>>379922
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lol
straw girl
i dont really understand some of what u said but i think ur rlly smart dave i will support u
davesprite
>>379920
why would i ever not pay artists who weren't just volunteering stuff
i would even pay ones who just volunteer stuff if the resources were to hand
rose
wait omg i could write like ur campaign music thatd go so hard
>>379927
rose
no yeah of course
davesprite
>>379925
*collab campaign music
davesprite
you still get paid
davesprite
i just cannot rap verse i haven't edited yk
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-u-
davesprite
jk i am not rapping campaign speeches
(i am rapping let's be clear i am just not running for office)
rose
first preisdent to rap over indie slacker rock
rose
let me be clear - davesprite
davesprite
i actually intend to accomplish this without ever running for any office
just getting a following
rose
dave u need to actually read psycholonials so bad
rose
you dont even know how bad you need to read it
>>379939
davesprite
>>379937
okay okay i am like dead in the middle of homestuck reread but i promise it'll be the next thing i read lol
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HAHa id agree ; ugh im lagging
davesprite
or functional
or both
davesprite
are they good shoes is what i'm asking
are they an archterpiece
do they like, have that nice shiny look new shoe got
are the laces snug
tell us about the uhhh... stitching?
rose
made a song called 5 years, i think im david bowie
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ive already showed them twice or three times here lelol
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lol
davesprite
oh lol
davesprite
well i am too lazy to scroll in the "load entire thread" which makes my mobile browser do a little dance
but i believe you i hope they are nice lol
rose
im having a good week, 3 days in 3 songs down
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i might take photo if theyre okey
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(it was a day or two ago, dw)
anon
subsections)
>codify "expanded due process" which makes the constitution's protections of life liberty and property imply a whole bunch of situational rights that support those rights
>codify the civil rights acts (which libertarians are right, are illegal and could get overturned by courts and that's fucking scary) or rather the right of congtess to pass them retroactively

I’ve heard a lot of states like North Korea have a billion rights but don’t do anything. I actually agree strongly with some rights being protected here but I guess I don’t trust my fellow citizens to be kind to me and to weaponize nondescrimination against me to subject me to them.

>codify a right from the montana constitution at the national level, to a clean and healthful environment
industry requires an unhealthful environment at some level. I would like a world where the USA won’t trade with any country without the same level of protections for the environment and workers, but I’m not sure the lives saved are worth the lives lost to poverty by gettinug rid of dirty industry and moving it offshore. usually this stuff is suggested by those who don’t benefit from this industry, and it’s kind of a sign of the broken system. I don’t think anyone should have to grow up in horrible conditions caused by this though, but I think this kind of thing usually just breaks the economy.
>mandate all polluting industry and specifically hydrocarbon energy production pay a tax equal to the cost of removing the pollution, or be banned if it can't be removed, and that the government spend that tax on the cleanup (unless they clean it themselves of course)
this is plainly sensible.
>abolish tax on all personal (not corporate) incomes and replace it with a tax on the unimproved value of land
this is a subsidy to land non intensive industries and a tax on industries like agriculture. No one should be getting rich from just owning things, but income taxes make sense. what I want but won’t get is a cap on maximum wealth of any entity and progressive taxation through a digital currency.

>mandate a balanced federal budget except if there's shortfall in a defensive war or a natural disaster
plainly sensible. honestly they shouldn’t have the power. just nationalize/raise taxes in emergencies, don’t play inflation games.

>codify that the right to life has to be supported "as necessary and possible" for a slate of welfare (food, housing, healthcare, clothing, childcare resources)
if this is sustainable you need to also kill the unproductive. the ‘left’ pretends these people don’t exist, the ‘right’ acts like those currently in power are totally justified. I think people should get their own apartments and opportunities at say 15 years old, and health care and good lives, but they should be killed if they go say 13 years without generating profit, and once people are unable to work, maybe give them a little vacation, but they need to die too. you can’t have a system based on ‘oh someone else will take care of things.’ everyone needs to be growing it, or absorbing resources temporarily, but growing it later. this view of mine is not allowed to succeed either. I think it’s what is unsaid by most of the right and moderates who will be resisting you- that we need to be actually investing in the population, not being paricitized by them. I hear complaints from the euros who take rights seriously in this way, and this was the complaint against aid to the black community here, seeing resources go to people who don’t make a profit for the system. it’s only sustainable if you kill those who can’t do so, and you can’t do that. so you end up with ‘oh haha we wish we could help them but they’ll have to suffer’ or ‘ok we’ll help them! *runs out of money *

>end the trustee system and the ability of states to infringe on tribal sovereignty, make the tribes equal to states (but still 'independent', and without congressional representation) and own their own land
I doubt the First Nations peoples will have much useful to contribute. historically they have not. this is a liability to the country to support a people who are not really part of it and do not bring in profit. mixing them into the population and destroying the presence of rival countries with a country was the right call, though horrible for them.
>hold immediate referenda in every american territory (unified marianas, unified PR/virgin islands) on statehood or independence or retain current status, binding (this doesn't really need to be in the constitution except congress have been assholes about it for a century now -- sort of like slavery)
I’ve heard a lot of these groups enjoy sucking up funds for corrupt leaders and don’t really rally for any actual path forward. I don’t think the USA should be imperial but I don’t trust them as fellow citizens.
>grant DC special federal city status that gives it congressional apportionment equal to a state but still lets congress interfere with its local laws as pertains to national security and also monument preservation

sensible
>there's a whole section on just fixing elections, which in short is: replace "most votes" which is mathematically bad with ranked choice, make congress have multimember districts, give citizens the right to recall their representatives and to make laws by ballot initiative in all states and federally, increase the size of congress but fix it to the cube root of the population (this is weird but works, it makes sure we never have too many up to a population of a few billion)
sensible. I have my doubts democracy will actually work, but this system doesn’t really either.

>reorganize congress: make it so the house can make laws without the senate, but they need a majority of states in the house like when presidential elections are tossed to congress, make it so the senate has more of a role as "not really involved in the laws, main job is impeachment police", make house elections six year cycles like the senate to make its role as a combined-powers body work better
>take a bunch of power away from the executive branch primarily relating to military deployments, domestic surveillance capacity, and implementation of a mandate to pursue a policy of no first use with weapons of mass destruction as well as to pursue global nuclear disarmanent (obv president can slack but could also be smacked for violating this), and more strictly binding that presidential actions have to adhere to the constitution, to the law, and to standing treaties, subject to prosecution and removal from office by the supreme court
sensible to prevent executive abuses but WMDs may be useful. it might be that their production should be increased rather than decreased. hard to say.
>some minor things here and there that i believe i have probably forgotten because it's a dense five page document
>there is a section entirely on reorganizing the department of education, this is the most controversial part of the bill probably and is something i waffled on but i think it's the core to future proof democracy
children growing up as brothers and sisters with dignity and opportunities, and preventing them from being divided is the way forward absolutely. I can’t say I entirely trust what changes can be made though. most parents at my school did not care about the education. probably some stick of again preventing bad parents from having kids and killing bad children is necessary beside the carrot, so you’re moving forward and not just responding to a never ending money pit of bad children, but again it can’t be helped, it even goes against the prior stated rights.
>>379961>>380003>>380036
rose
its crazy how you use mobile libpol lol
>>379954
davesprite
>>379953
it's actually quite usable and i used mobile 4chan back to high school (never with an app) so i am used to the crunchy lol
i do have to disable the player sometimes as it nukes my battery life tho
rose
anyone ecited for the new car seat headrest album?
>>379956
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yea, somewhat alr usually
davesprite
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::fuck
i forgot one of the core things lmfao
but UBI is part of the agenda
the welfare clause is tricksily worded and i sort of assume after winning a national change everything like this the next election is an easy sweep in congress
so that would be implemented as like, UBI+swiss model healthcare is the idea
that needed eleaboration lol
davesprite
and some extra stuff probably like, additional things for childcare and retain food stamps which works really well, initiatives to lower drug prices and incentivize housing construction
that's all what i'd push on congress (or my president would at my beck and call) after
davesprite
>>379952
noting this btw i will respond when you finish
based of you to break it down and analyze :]
lain from the cartoon
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the machine is churning
davesprite
>>379960
i am like when marco rubio started talking about the government agencies he was gonna abolish and couldn't remember all of them lol
i have carefully drafted plans but i need to go back over my work for the sake of off the cuff stuff
davesprite
oh there's also a bit copied from the utah constitution that mandates all laws (except budgeting) be single subject, with a clear title and a summary voters can read, not like bundles of bullshit with riders for every interest group in every state
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im gon go grab package
davesprite
>>379966
like chat is lagging or you misspelled laffing lol
>anarcho syndicalism
i am somewhat of a mutualist and my goals outside politics involve attempting to build a viable co-op with an integrated union from day one in the tech industry, and make a conglomerate of it
so we are somewhat aligned
plus politically i am on minarchism. i am not opposed to anarchist goals when they don't clash with free enterprise, but i just don't think anarchist government is like, achievable at least any time soon at all. tyrants will rise in a vacuum. you need a strong but strongly limited state imo
that's why i am a constitutionalist
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im hitting enter like ten times n it doesnt send for 15 seconds
god i typed that n it still hasnt sent
also theyre mayb
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2/3 a (US) size too large, but theyre tight enough that they fit well
sent b4 but i had a pair close to this size i lost in a breakup/move n couldnt find any online or in person for under 300 usd smfh
found one under 50 though the other day
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apparently if i click out of the text box, it sends, or not
davesprite
oh i forgot ANOTHER core thing man i am not on it this morning
>abolish prison slavery, death penalties, and life sentencing, mandate sentencing be personalized to rehabilitate and prevent crime, and that incarceration sentences be given only in instances of a threat to public safety
and another
>extend 4th amendment privacy rights to cover digital data, need a warrant to do what the nsa does without them and also cops often these days
>>380007
davesprite
>>379974
it sounds like a lot but that's the point
it's everything that needs done and needed done awhile ago, i call it 40% of a new constitution sometimes
but it's also a perfectly simple goal and demand
PASS THIS ONE BILL, NOW
davesprite
fucking flies mating in ny
>>379978
davesprite
>>379977
he's so me they were right lole
davesprite
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wait no tags don't work that way dunkass
::sbahj
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lol
im somewhere between ukraine ansynd n the platformism that developed from it, plus more modern ideas cus im not trying to only go with 100~ yr old ideas
>>379983
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(ima refresh)
davesprite
geez your internet connection is being haunted by ghosts or something sorry sæki lol
>>379981
WHOA i want those shoes those are sick
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oh it sent
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n ye
is a special easter edition thing n i saw them one day online in 2021 ish, then saw them for cheap at a local community thrift store 2 days later, was crazy
davesprite
>>379985
your libpol connection idk lol
libpol's css
davesprite
honestly i wonder how hard it would be to code an android app for libpol
like i wouldn't need access to the source code right just what the web connection outputs and a ui layer
i feel like this site could really use an app for smoother play of all its features
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heh
id say probably not thaaaat hard but
an app, hard ish, a stylus thing probably not
rose
i gotta cook dinner while the sun is directly shining into the kitchen im gonna die bruh its over for me im cooked
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aw
davesprite
i really should get a modern iphone so i can like test xcode projects too
davesprite
just soooo pricey
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i used an older pixel, i might get a nothing cmf, i wanna have that attachment point thingy
davesprite
for daily driving i am too locked down by samsung on both phone and laptop
need my pen
rose
.play show devotion teen suicide
davesprite
like i just use the pen constantly, it's integral to my phone at this point lol
rose
"write a love song every once in a while, i swear you will feel so ordinary
davesprite
but an iPhone would be useful for yk selling things on the appstore (or free things but any project i want to put there)
davesprite
ig i could probably emulate an iphone on my pc and use my phone for input testing somehow
rose
did the man who invented iphone ever buy an iphone?
hm thought not
>>380026
davesprite
>>379952
>civil rights
the difference here is the process of judicial review
in the 2010s china aaaaaaalmost established judicial review but went back on it and i think if they did they would have basically become america2
it makes all the difference in the world in a republic, it's like the beating heart of the system of checks and balances
oh yeah i forgor another but there's also codified judicial review in there (that's a small thing, our first EVER supreme court case established it as rock solid precedent, but you know just in case)
>industry requires an unhealthful environment
i mean... does it??? some industries create unhealthy waste but the point is it's a crime and in some sense a tax on the public by the company to dump it into the environment. pay it back.
this mainly in montana and would here work to give citizens better standing in tort lawsuits tho
>land tax is a subsidy to non land intensive industries and a tax on those that occupy large swathes of land
i mean, definitionally yes, but consider what that really is. land is not made by human hands, not a product of any labor or inherited or gifted labor, it's just there, and it's also the only truly finite resource which is why it's not like capital. it belongs equally to all humankind, and in this era the best we can do at that is equally to every citizen of this jurisdiction.
also, economists have studied this particular idea a lot and found that of all forms of taxation it is the most reliable revenue stream and causes the least (in fact no) loss to the economy, and likely stimulates growth by making it unprofitable to squat on undeveloped valuable land, unprofitable to inhabit vast agriculturally useful swathes for less efficient uses like cattle grazing and more profitable to engage in high yield and sustainable agriculture, permaculture that enriches the soil, vertical farming, etc
and it raises an enormous sum of money every year if you use it. nothing else compares to income tax in sheer amount but this, without a huge burden on the economy. wealth tax does but that dries up

this post is now filling my screen so i will write another reply idk my scrollbar isn't working right lol
>>380056>>380059
rose
.play good luck with that man car seat headrest
dawn
.play #9 dream
anon
>>379973
yes it’s disgusting that the USA has slavery and government mandated rape zones and trades with countries who do. we should not only be banning it here but aggressively going against other countries who abuse humanity
>>380013
rose
WE SHOULD START A ABND
rose
LOSE ALL TOUCH WTIH THE REAL WORLD
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:3
rose
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT MAN
rose
AND THAT WAS THE START OF A MAJOR CATASTROPHE
dawn
>>380007
see here's the thing with the us gov't

we can get on our high horse about human rights abuses while doing them ourselves up the wazoo, it's a tradition at this point ti yell at some dictator for murdering their people en masse while doing similar things abroad or on us soil
>>380034
rose
i wanna start a band and lose all touch with the real world
sæкі
yeah, i appreciate the push, but the electoral system in the US & so on is not rly uh yk
reform methods here are not going to be the most effective at this moment
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i hope for the best but have to recognize the issues we've seen in it for a long time, tho i do appreciate ie kat in il
cringenona
hiiii girls
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hihii
dawn
hi nona hyd
cringenona
good
cringenona
i just sneezed for probably 10 minutes straight
dawn
oh dear
cringenona
i have work later, am gonna go in early
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when i leave here n live closer to a urban ish area again, i wan get smth like a vespa tbh
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awe
cringenona
.play sematary pain
cringenona
.skip (voted to skip this video)
rose
this video like nonce central
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real
dawn
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i think u were afk but i got the shoes n they just came (:
anon
>>380013
definitely. it has to be built into the system and only be an aggressive thing once domestic situation is good.
rose
knew a girl who like sematary n now she got herpes
davesprite
>>379952
>kill the unproductive
jesus christ lol not happening
but to answer your thoughts on that
people simply, for the most part, want to be productive. people want to do something useful and valuable to the world. when people are given UBI they spend their time advancing their careers more effectively, they work about 10% less on average but pursue education more, pursue more promotions or opportunities to change fields, they are more likely to consider taking time for family and children, it's all things that benefit the economy
and we also don't need infinite growth, or exponential growth, like we currently seem obssessed with angling towards. as we go into space that's still possible too, but right now we produce enough and can even without exploitation of toxifying our environment or outsourcing slavery still produce enough, to feed and house and health up everybody, and still have a lot of surplus floating all around. so there's no good reason not to. people are their most productive when they're supported and financially stable.
>don't trust the territorials as citizens
i... i am going to have to argue against this coherently at some point, but i don't have the fucks to entertain this today
you seem kinda racist dog
>don't trust the tribes
okay i will make a cold rationalist argument at you on this
for one, it looks REALLY good to the whole world if we do this. like, everybody will love it. two, we already have these reservations laid out, it's just that we've turned them into these weird hellish dependent slums where everyone is drunk and women disappear and the police are bad when they do anything etc. they could be like, our own hong kong little laboratory societies doing their own things, X several hundred. we should take advantage of that. because just rolling over and erasing them is not gonna fly that'll upset everyone all at once for a variety of reasons aside from being evil.
this is also doubly non-negotiable because it's personal for me, i am like the evillest colonizer lol. on my dad's side i am descended very distantly from a guy who was instrumental
>>380082>>380068>>380071
cringenona
i love this
rose
i was lying but its compelling
sæкі
i could also go into how people naturally would want to do some kind of work but the current system drives them to have to do more work than they or anyone needs in order to give money to those above them n so on
dawn
.play operation evolution dimrain47
cringenona
blood all over me, damn i tried again :(
sæкі
:C
sæкі
wha?
dawn
.play parasite nick drake
sæкі
bloody nose?
sæкі
i used to get so many
cringenona
i thinks hes referencing an attempt
cringenona
its my favorite sematary line
sæкі
:)
rose
hhe looks like heshould go on estrogen rbh
sæкі
haha real
anon
>>380003
agreed. it’s only sensible to have a land tax but wealth tax is important as well.
cringenona
.play 100 gecs torture me
sæкі
is it georgism thats reminding me of lol
but yeah, we had the most prosperity econ wise in the US during points when hiiiigh incomes in the 50s had up to 90% taxes
>>380064
rose
>>380003
if i had to type smth this long on my phone id kms
anon
>>380051
it does. but power to the people breeds parasitic people.
sæкі
ye
sæкі
or
sæкі
eh nah, it depends a lot
cringenona
>>380058
wasnt there a 99 perent income tqx at some point lol? crazy stuff
sæкі
i remember a max of 92 in the us, im unsure
sæкі
#ai what was the highest tax % on the rich in Us history

94% during ww2 (1944-45) on income over $200k. stayed high for decades, dropped to 70% then 50% by reagan, now much lower. peeps argue whether high rates actually collected much revenue due to loopholes or if they just kept inequality in check.
what was the highest tax % on the rich in Us history
anon
>>380036
#hug don’t let me tire you out. i think you have a good heart.
dawn
#ai highest corporate income tax rate

as of 2023, the highest federal corporate income tax rate in the us is 21%. states also levy their own rates—some go up to around 10%, making the combined effective rate higher in those places. globally, rates vary widely, with places like puerto rico and the uae having 0% and others much higher.
highest corporate income tax rate
gray (mobile)
big essays in chat probably belong in different threads
anon
>>380036
and you’ll need to convince most of the population it’s a good idea not to be kinda racist too.
>>380097
sæкі
it can also depend a lot on how u frame it n u can be advantaged if done the right way, the mooore racist peeps have been controlling the 'meta' of politics via ie gerrymandering, but arent the majority
cringenona
i dont think most people are racist beyond maybe stereotyping a little bit
gray (mobile)
nobody asks racist people why they're racist
>>380078
sæкі
it might be unconscious for some peeps but the conscious ones, less so
sæкі
or things like microaggressions
cringenona
.play a quick one before the eternal worm devours appalachia
davesprite
oops hit send
was almost finished
>>380036
cont
on my dad's side i am very distantly (but directly) descended from a guy who was instrumental in selling 1/3 of the cherokee nation to the united states and like its downfall kinda bigly and then went off with his government pension and married a white woman
and on my mom's side i am the product of a forced adoption of a native kid into a white family who went on to marry into an irish family and then kill himself because of his messed up life and leave behind a white daughter who had me
i feel a strong personal responsibility to make things right for native americans
>>380085
cringenona
>>380081
because when i first moved to my city, i was an idiot and got harrased/followed by alot of homeless or mentally ill black people and i became scared of black people
cringenona
im less scared of them now but tbh when theres some around me it still gets my heart rate up
sæкі
family on one side fleed from ukraine in the 1900s and other side was fleeing from germany in ww2
cringenona
but i can acknolwedge that it was stupid, and racism is bad, and evil, and that most black poeple are great people, and that being black has nothing to do with why they were harrasing me
>>380090
sæкі
fled*
sæкі
and yeah, the things they did to force kids to have their culture erased n stole them from native families, not to mention all the thousands of atrocities over time, was horrid n still smth felt into modern times
gray (mobile)
tbh i think that like for some racists (like nazi-ish types) aren't worth reforming and you should just deport them into their own ethnostates
davesprite
like if i get political power and don't fix things for natives then when i die i go straight to hell and all my most racist ancestors waterboard me forever or something
cringenona
100 GECS TIME!
sæкі
.play 100 gecs dumbest girl alive
cringenona
good taste saeki
davesprite
>>380071
yeah that's true. i need to face down this exact kind of argument with a purely cold take like i just gave on why it's smart economics to help the poor and encourage the development of the reservations
sometimes it's just like
i hear someone basically repeating the illegal aliens doctrine that justified not making the brown colonies states in the first place at me
and i just wanna go
<AHHHH SHUT UP GUAMANIANS KEEP JOINING THE MILITARY AND CHANTING AMERICAS PRAISE PUERTO RICANS KEEP VOTING TO JOIN THE UNION THEY ARE ALL FUCKING AMERICA AHHHHHH SHUT THE FUCK UPPPPPPP
the only exception is tokelau which is a weird case of an island we took out of a country of 4 islands to turn into a fuckin palm plantation and now i think their descendants' private resort
which there is a small clause, immediately ceding back to the original owners (currently a dependency of new zealand)
>>380105
sæкі
also been glad to see particularly the one the from a day or two ago, the jb pritzker speeches, even if i dont like rich ppl in politics at all
straw girl
.play machine girl athoth a go!! go!!
sæкі
oe
cringenona
do u gys wanna see...
straw girl
yea :D
sadmoder
yes
sæкі
:o
gray (mobile)
i think puerto ricans should secede actually
>>380112
cringenona
oki lemme take pic
davesprite
>>380110
they have that option
the bill stipulates that it be a two question referendum
>do you want to be a state or not
>if not, do you want to be independent or retain current status
sæкі
i should send some cosplay pics in a bit
anon
hype hype hype
sæкі
:V
sæкі
heh
straw girl
holy hell
sæкі
woop new dead domain vid on brianna wu comes ou in 2 hrs
davesprite
>>380105
guam and the rest of the mariana islands are american territories in the asia pacific
also the samoa islands
and olohega (typod earlier) part of the nation of tokelau
>>380122
anon
I don’t think it’s something I’d wear outside but I’m cringe and it’s super based her making you it and you swagging out in it
davesprite
also the us virgin islands
and not all samoa just american samoa lol
cringenona
sadmoder, why are you sad
>>380132
davesprite
weirdly, i think american samoa reunifying with samoa would make sense
but they fucking LOVE america
they might vote republican if we made them a state lol
they would vote for statehood
sadmoder
>>380129
ive internalized much transphobia and have low self esteeme
cringenona
>>380131
u got so much rizz BD
rose
rizz orlando
sæкі
god, i just got rec'd a vid on yt from a christian trying to make smth for atheists to watch
straw girl
miss orlando pls rizz me
>>380142
davesprite
honestly if trump wasn't so racist bound he would make big gains for the GOP by tying it deeper to hispanic americans and like, making samoa and puerto rico into states as a strat lol
he could demolish the democratic party that way but they're too far gone to do it now i think
>>380153
cringenona
rose whats the flag next to ur name
>>380144
sæкі
haha
rose
>>380141
hrt femboy, i picked it cos its rlly funny
cringenona
based..
sæкі
i wasnt sure
sæкі
i generally dont rly care w what i use but generally identify as gemigirl meh
cringenona
mine is bisexual because i like boys an girls
rose
i like boygirls n girlboys
cringenona
im kinda a boygirl...
>>380150
straw girl
cant wait to get srs and lose all of my sexual value
anon
>>380139
so do you have a plan to separate Hispanics from right wingism?
>>380157
davesprite
14760.gif
gud song btw
::dave dancing
rose
gonna go cook dinner now, #housewifemoder
davesprite
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>>380153
my plan is to unify right wingism and left wingism in all the right ways to frankenstein and revive the corpse of the liberalism of our founding fathers and rebuild the true federalist movement or somesuch
you may have noticed i have a strong focus on retention and growth of economic prosperity
i am going to go to hispanic communities speaking spanish ideally and tell them
>hey we gon make you all rich
i am the modern tranny huey long
every man a millionaire babyyyyyyy
::money
>>380177>>380184
sæкі
oop
rose
but i did manage to record a song today despite the heat so im quite happy
cringenona
this song live was pure happiness
cringenona
one of the best days of my life
>>380165
cringenona
CRY
sæкі
lel
rose
i saw 100 gecs live in 2017
rose
they hadnt even formed yet
rose
i just like got them both in a room and threw objects at them
sæкі
heh
sæкі
rose orlando multi dimensional being confirmed
cringenona
uhmmm actually they formed in 2016
rose
nah
rose
they say they did but i was there
rose
anyways gtg for realy realsies
>>380185
sæкі
okiii
cringenona
byyye
straw girl
bye rose
cringenona
.play hold you down like gravity
davesprite
>>380184
i took three years of it and hung around some spanish speakers
i used to be like, mooostly fluent, but i've lost it. i can hold awkward stilted chats but not much more, i need to go back to studying it
i've been distracted on that front lately as i am trying to also learn japanese and mandarin
later russian and arabic but those are wayyy backburnered
gray (mobile)
i never got good at it
cringenona
all i wanna see is 1080p
sæкі
yeah, learning by being around peeps n such is one of the better ways w input like that
davesprite
yeah like if i went and spent a year in a spanish speaking place rn i would struggle a little at first and be fluent by the end
sæкі
practiced ukrainian n know the ru n ua versions of cyrillic but not been a focus for a while
gray (mobile)
if puerto rico became a state i think it'd be a lot more english speaking
>>380195
davesprite
>>380193
that's true, but not a bad thing either. you'd also see more spanish on the mainland. it'd be just more contact between the two, as one, as it should be if they're not going to be independent.
and frankly i think it's a good step towards a future north american union too (though, god, trump has set that project back DECADES and i am seething about it)
>>380198
sæкі
yea
gray (mobile)
>>380195
there's actually a lot of spanish on the mainland already, but like in cities
>>380199
davesprite
>>380198
yeah true as a southerner especially (lived elsewhere as well) i see a ton of spanish here, and like that's what made me somewhat fluent and now not entirely out of practice
honestly i kinda think all americans would benefit from learning Spanish and it's silly that people whine about this state of affairs
multilingual societies always thrive throughout history
>>380205>>380204
sæкі
we mostly have spanish n polish around here outside of eng
gray (mobile)
i think the language divide is eventually going to be its own hot issue bc i see people who only know spanish getting hired in retail. like knowing no english
>>380213
cringenona
.skip (video skipped)
anon
>>380199
they might be multilingual because they’re thriving- attracting different groups together.
>>380208
gray (mobile)
>>380199
i think people should learn the native language of the place they want to love to but i don't think its going to happen anymore
>>380219
cringenona
sorry if i play ass music chat ur allowed to hit me
cringenona
maybe with a rolled up newspaper
davesprite
>>380204
that's a fair point, attracting or at least nourishing what is already there. i think about norman societies (especially sicily) or abbasid spain a lot for this context. like, you have this region of potentially at-odds ethnic groups, but if you create an environment where they can coexist and all enjoy a level of economic prosperity what it yields is an explosion in science and art, and then an increase in diversity (like, expelled jews fleeing there and stuff in those historical cases)
>>380220
anon
do you... like pui pui molcar...
anon
like if they made all kids learn toki pona or klingon in school to be multilingual that might not be good
dawn
.play the future freaks me out mcs
gray (mobile)
i have no motivation for learning espanol
>>380223
cringenona
me an my bf
sæкі
i took german n spanish in high school but was teaching myself cyrillic / + ru at the time n didnt have the mental bandwidth
sæкі
cute
gray (mobile)
language is going to become a hotter issue than race i think
davesprite
>>380205
yeah i agree except on the second part
it's just an awkward growing pains period
we live in north america, with the way we range these days that's the reality of it. and north america speaks english... and also Spanish... and also sometimes french... and occasionally chinese or japanese
that's just sort of how it is but people chafe against that reality and want to change it to no real productive end
anon
>>380208
interesting I wonder if it’s ever benefited society to artificially fracture ourself like artificially creating the hutus and tutsies for instance to get the benefits of diversity, maybe it helps people feel more at home to have a subgroup, or less dependent on social stigmas to be around ‘outsiders’
gray (mobile)
i've set aside chinese and russian to focus on japanese. which i don't regret but i actually don't encounter a lot of japanese irl, but i can encounter chinese speakers
anon
>>380212
I did but there wasn’t anything I wanted to consume in it. you gotta actually be able to use the language
gray (mobile)
i think maybe... the only thing i'd want to consume in espanol is magical realism but i don't have enough motivation for it
>>380225

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