>>25449
sounds fair. Health care is labor, and health care workers should be paid.

>>25454
i concur

libertarians are some of the stupidest motherfuckers alive. you cannot argue with me on this

>>25461
they can be very funny, at least

(unintentionally)

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yeah but they're THAT libertarian

>>43915
if it’s not the government’s, they have no obligation to care for it either. that isn’t always good.

>>25449
american moment

>>25449
it's so funny that LPNH has built such a strong reputation for psychopathy that people just automatically read this literally and not as a statement of "this is what it means to not be allowed to go into debt"
i'm not even defending him, that's how i read it first too, it took me like 30 seconds to understand that he wasn't just being an edgelord

>>74407
wow i think you're actually right. i've seen so many insane tweets from that account that i just immediately took it at face value

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>>74407
yeah holy shit. i would absolutely not have guessed that lol, there's like 3 layers of miscommunication here ("if you can't go into debt it's a death sentence" is a weird critique to make when she almost certainly meant "the government should subsidize health and take on the debt itself", which seems more like a standard object of libertarian critique)

>>106543
yeah it's obviously a bad critique of something she wasn't advocating but also he's phrasing it in such a way that it sounds like he's endorsing the position rather than critiquing it. when you combine that with his history of posting retarded/evil shit he's just asking to be misunderstood.

some cancers are going to be more expensive to treat than saving the person is worth though. there needs to be more acceptance of killing people in the health care debate, because humans are not some naturally healthy living forever thing in a world of infinite resources.

>>25449
isnt this page fake

>>120641
i don't think so

>lpnh
into the trash it goes

oh someone is reading this thread

i'm reading YOU

aaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa

:3 read me more pls

AAAAAAAA

>>139344
wha

>>139344
:3 how nice to read very well written

incredibly insightful, you should write a book about this

>>206786
working harder doesnt entitle you to anything unless someone is willing to pay you for it, if the workers want they can quit and start a co-op and run it democratically and see how that goes, you really think CEOs dont do anything when most businesses fail. just because you have money and own something doesnt mean you will automatically generate profit

>>217989
i agree, that's why i'm a liberal rather than a leftist

that said i do think there should be free universal healthcare but that's separate

>>223434
doesnt matter, the work they do is more important, they literally create the environment in which people get paid, you seem to think that things like amazon just exist in nature and then jeff buys it and starts hoarding. their work is much more high-stakes than a regular worker's because a wrong decision could lead to the whole company falling apart and all of the workers will end up unemployed

>>25449
>>25454
We should start raping and killing doctors i think

in pre-modern societies healthcare would be given to people even if they were peasants or poor sick plague victims even if they were unexpected to pay for such a thing because human lives were the blood and strength of a society and even the most despot king recognized the need for his subjects to be, well, alive. if humanity has grown to such a point that a human life is no longer considered of high enough value to the good of society to prevent the death of than this is more a deeper question of where we are at as a species rather than a question of should the government start paying for your medical bills

>>227606
they hit the elderly on the head with rocks and threw them off the cliff supposedly on that one island off Italy, and the Roman slaves we’re provided food and shelter but I don’t think anything else, so far as I know

>>227606
true about the last part. if everyone was doing or capable of doing super important valuable labor this whole situation would look a lot different

>>235219
whatever random island that was they clearly didn't up end being as successful as any other culture

/qa/ won

>>227606
if human life was actually valued highly by society, we wouldnt need government intervention to keep people alive. if you advocate for government force to fund health care that means you already admit that life isnt valued enough. the pre-modern societies didn't value it either, obviously the king wanted to keep people alive because they worked his land...

>>25449
when cancer is caused by plastics in the water n shiet it should be fro.

>>248333
*free, but not when you’re fat or ugly

>>235239
Well wouldn't forming some form of logistics chain--and the paperwork involved in such--be a form of governance? Even some anarchists seem okay with governance, just not heirarchical governances.

I think that we should work as hard to keep strangers alive as we would our own family members.

>>256025
which is to say not at all

>>255003
thats voluntary cooperation

>>256025
I'm surprised there's people out there that still have healthy relations with their family. Found family is a pretty common genre of anime these days precisely because seemingly everyone's parents completely dropped the ball because the current conventions of parenting are kinda fucked up.
Yet an ideal that family is precious persists.

>>257802
more like cuz we’re all addicted to hating r parents and wish they were hot and legally fuckable

bait and slop

>>235239
to some extent, the government IS the collective manifestation of (a large part of) society.

Libertarian Party NH is an ironic account

>>280338
>to some extent
to very little extent, most people choose a party that they dont agree on 95% of things with because the alternative is a party they dont agree on 96% of things with, not really a good representation of society at all

>>286644
it isn't

>>25449
Cost of raising people is more than early screening and testing. It also stabilizes the system.