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am seeing wut collar design i wanna do
havent had access to one for 2.5< yrs
straw girl
ueueueueueueue
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fufufufu
straw girl
XD
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also, might hab posted one or two of these b4 but past, some from depresso post breakup era, of room n setups ive used
some stuff was for testing diff stuff for retro lab n general home lab---
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heh
straw girl
.play pig destroyer loathsome
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yis--
is again mostly stuff, other than the tv which was old one family used, from estate sale of a late US military comp engineer who had free stuff
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it is clean dummy this was years ago
straw girl
is that not clean in the picture
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its a mess somewhat there yeah but ik where everything is n was functional for that moment
but wasnt permanent
straw girl
oh haha im glad u cleaned it up ehehehe.......
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~u~
would be maid for chat lel
anon
>>383082
did something disconnect just now or was that only me
anon
hopefully just me
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hm ? idk
anon
oh oki
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dont think so
anon
i'm hunting for bugs again!!!!
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ou ic, hope its going alr (:
used to enjoy n do bug hunting more
is what the lab stuff was for, for a lil while awa
>>383101
anon
thamks :>
>>383100
you have a personal nerd cave?? :o
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lel
its moved to a smol smol office away from my room (so i dont work n eep in the same place) but yeah basically bwaa
for before i move outs again
aaa
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interested in seeing peeps when not a case thatd be bad to share
terry
accidentally found my old gymcel photos and they literally triggered my fight or flight response 😭
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;-;;;
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i feel that as ive been going through like a decade of pics ive taken
>>383118
dawn
>>383110
.play bell peppers
BELL PEPPERS
anon
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pat
terry
i wanna delete them but at the same time i wanna keep them for like historical documentation's sake lol
dawn
i got rid of all my old photos of myself ages ago

they only ever gave me psychic damage so i didn't see the point
anon
i love looking at old photos of myself so i can laugh at my deluded thought that i could ever be anything than what i am
>>383122
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i feel that, i dont look at mine but keep them cus i like having documented parts of life to write abt or journal on idk
i dont check though, or try my best not to
do what u need for selves x
anon
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dawn
.skip (voted to skip this video)
terry
i think imma keep em for now, maybe they'll make for one of those shocking reddit timeline pics one day
anon
posterity
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and lel
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yeah, i was gon say posterity but felt id be
am self critical abt my photo archive a lot
anon
we are not the same
terry
god i even had the scruffy beard cope phase ;_;
terry
it never looked good btw, just made me look like a hobo
anon
im mtm
anon
ok i dont think im breaking the polls feature
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aw
yeah ⋯
i feel that way mostly abt my own repressing phase when i just tried to be gei for a couple yrs, n thankful i dont have strong facial hair n is blonde but
is a weird set of feels, can imagine thatd be intense n all thoughs
hope chu hab or can in time though too ~<~
straw girl
weeeeehhhh
terry
glad you found ur groove<3
straw girl
::ok
terry
:3
straw girl
::no
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aw i found a pic from 2600 or smth from the 90s of a guy w a free kevin sticker on his laptop in bed
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rip kevin mitnick .3.
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bwa
terry
ig this is gonna be the third day in a row of me not going to work lmao
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aw
hope u can do some work that makes u feel fulfilled urself
n wishes well if chu were the peep w the factory struggles 2
terry
idk im thinking about quitting tbh, it's a really boring job and i can spend my time better at home i think
straw girl
post ur best fagslop to piss this guy off hes cute when hes mad
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i might try n get a like
i could/should probably get a remote gig thats even just part time n maybe add another if it is alr
and yeah, really
terry
but switching jobs in this economy isn't an easy task so idk still
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i have a struggle w it cus i have a lot of independent / + extensive portfolio of stuff but most of it is personal or stuff i feel nervous ever putting on my CV, i worked on sum for a while but wanna write my essay/reporting im doing rn n maybe use that as a jumping off point
yeahhhh
terry
i feel you lol, updating my CV makes me really self conscious :>
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like, i was taking a python ras pi linux game dev class at a local community college summer class at 12-13
n made some lil game stuffs, ran forums n wrote a lot of fiction but
its all attached to so much of the struggles i had in those yrs yk, i hope you can find a middleground even if not the happiest one just yet urself
>>383181
anon
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
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reminds me i should work on one, but instead gonna work on the archive n essay that i can put up on it for nows
::yuri
and thanke thanke c: appreciate its
>>383184
terry
>>383177
ty, i hope you find your way with this stuff one day too because it can be tiring <3
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god that pic lol
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mhmm
its also tough when i/you do mostly self taught stuff or were mentored by peep(s)
n am also a generalist so it adds another layer
but also lel
terry
yeah, the problem for me too is that my CV is just not very impressive yet so I tend to just get not noticed by employers, especially since the job market is so cutthroat currently
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mhm
feel that too
like, i can do a lot/workaholic myself too easily but
its smth thats hard to show when its a lot of small things or things i probably dont want employers to generally know but
im kind of hoping, thanks to a connection w someone i knew p well from doing work w his crew
peep who now writes for cybernews abt hacktivism n cyber/infosec, might be able to land smth helping or writing n aiding him
>>383189
anon
Don't worry it will be easy to find jobs once the unemployment rate goes up
>>383188
terry
>>383186
that's interesting honestly, online journalism sounds comfy if it's for like a small publication that's chill
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yeaa, ive gone into that lightly but
i'd recommend uhh
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ill link the documentary cybernews did on him, jack rhysider/darknet diaries did an ep w him cus he is a hacker who got one of the harshest sentences in the 00/10s for smth p small (10 yrs, has 2 yrs of solitary)
>>383197
anon
journalism is dying i would not recommend dong journalism unless you feel it is your civic duty
terry
nah journalism isn't dying it's just getting ruined by AI like all other creative work
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journalism isnt dying, youre just not looking in the right places n ur behind lel
though i get the sentiment
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love what 404media has been doing since those peeps went independent from vice/motherboard
same with robert evans n cool zone media coming out of cracked n i heart
anon
how old are you saeki
terry
>>383191
judges really do be handing out solitary like it's candy
anon
saekayi
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he didnt get solitary at sentencing i believe, but he was given it in the ways that many prisoners are, its strange how hackers get it ; kevin mitnick as i mentioned earlier was one of the early early hacking/CFAA cases in the US n he had i think close to or over a yr of solitary in the 90s
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also why would i tell you my age
terry
i still don't get why solitary hasn't been completely outlawed yet, it's just barbaric and inhumane honestly
straw girl
X3
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lol
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=3
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yeah, its just
its horrid n i feel for them so heavily
ive heard interviews/memoir esc retellings of peeps stories who went through it in juvenile
>>383210
davesprite
.play rosebot Gemini club
>>383211
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hia dave ! weba
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ill link the cybernews hacktivist/journalist i was referencing working w
he started a group called ETA in the early 00s or so n i joined long after due to his work on ops like OpChildSafety which was to get cs4m removed from social media platforms n monitor, then report predators/threats to vulnerable ppl to non profits that handle it from there
davesprite
hii
terry
>>383205
yeah ive heard of that too, it completely fucks you up and pretty much guarantees you become a repeat offender
davesprite
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>>383206
btw this is @
::rose_orlando
y'all should listen to her music if any new like me haven't
it's actually really quite good
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i joined originally though at the time i was actively doing Ukraine stuff focused on defense/awareness n fighting authoritarianism
davesprite
>>383213
#edit replace this with a rant about clowns unrelated to the topic
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howve u been liking it now thius far in ??? or done or i forget the length
>>383226
davesprite
>>383213
#reply this is unacceptable defend the noble art of clowning :o)

how about THE hot cops
Nice try fed.

(free banana flung into class)
this is unacceptable defend the noble art of clowning :o)
straw girl
the word "bad" actually has a star in it
anon
yuri time
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also, note im not defending what he did when he was a teen/young adult, he was stupid but grew up from a tragic home life
he got 11 yrs apparently, but while the title is technically correct, he was a security worker there n just ran a cd to let him use the buildings office PCs to be in his botnet for ddosing, its a mess but he's become a great guy in the time since n been through so much
[YouTube]
https://www.ghostexodus.org/
funnyposter
yep more 7 trillion dollars to Israel
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he started the group n the botnet was for fighting cyberbullying/child preds
is a long story but is a interesting guy, he cringes n doesnt agree w the anon shit he did mostly n his actions back then beyond stopping the horrid peeps yk
anon
I didn't know azumanga daiyo was so fun, I gotta watch the whole thing now
straw girl
i cant do this shit anymore
straw girl
im acutally so fuckign done its so over
funnyposter
>>383231
erm technically from everywhere because anime is short for animation
>>383240
straw girl
>>383237
oh i never thought of it like that before hi funnyposter
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oh
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>>383238
he ran eta, a group i joined up w in the past 5 yrs to do ant predator n ethical actions to fight russia involving ukraine
hes now a journalist type peep but hacktivist more so who writes abt these topics
also yeah
>>383266
davesprite
>>383239
it's wild how much Z is me so far other than yaknow, lol
i feel like i did when i read homestuck at 13 a bit it's ridiculous how hussie just taps exactly the part of zillenial culture i exist in and slaps me in the face with praxis through ironic comics
anon
Fucking 45 year old man should have died at birth stillborn
>>383260>>383255
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i have a hard time articulating it but mainly due to my upbringing, having parents who are in their 50s now as im gen z in so on
have what ppl would probably call, but i wouldnt describe myself as this sincerely due to my opinions on generations n such classifications, an old soul or smth similar
was big into web BBSes/+message boards, IRC, n made my own internet forums at 13
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davesprite
>>383244
modern prophet lowkey
davesprite
>>383246
this is not the kind of energy we bring here friend let's try that again
#edit (quoted post has no text) make this a funny clown monologue about how based andrew hussie is
>>383257>>383249>>383250
anon
>>383248
#freeze (only staff can use this command on this board)
anon
>>383248
#halt (only staff can use this command on this board)
davesprite
>>383246
#edit (quoted post has no text) make this a funny clown monologue about how based andrew hussie is
>>383252
anon
>>383251
#halt (only staff can use this command on this board)
anon
fuck fuck fuck fuck
anon
HIJA DE PUTA!!!!
davesprite
>>383245
#edit fucking hell make this a clown monologue about andrew hussie being based or i am gonna fly off the handle in some acrobatic fucking fashion i swear to god
terry
>>383246
yeah generation stuff is just entirely arbitrary and doesn't make much sense on the individual level
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i think i have a good few criticisms of hussy i have memory holed, for the most part (ie involving his control n management of the game studio doing the homestuck stuff n so on), but psycholonials writing n style is smth i seriously respect
davesprite
>>383245
>born stillBASED
deepseek is the best thing china ever made including the printing press
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oh wait is it actually deepseek?
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ah ic
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funny thing, i jailbroke a chromebook i had recently (i have a good few) n it thought i just bought it
it gave me a year free of google one/subscription (100 gigs of drive, etc) n also gemini pro for 1 yr
>>383272
davesprite
>>383242
interesante sounds like a person worth knowing for sure
and potentially very cool
>>383271
straw girl
fffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
anon
.skip (voted to skip this video)
davesprite
>>383263
customized some which way though with whatever datasets they're using, i am convinced they're including homestuck in it lol
#reply dirk strider, agree with me

yeah it's sick as hell. deepseek slaps. underrated af for sure.
dirk strider, agree with me
>>383273
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>>383266
yeah, he taught me a lot through different stuff, lemme link one of his talks on hacktivism/ethics that was a good thing for me to see as someone involved w the Ukraine aid stuff
terry
>>383265
lol, i heard that chromeOS is just a custom gentoo that is completely walled off
anon
>>383270
it's not customized it's just deepseek's api with a different prompt than normal
>>383275
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yh
davesprite
>>383273
they said something about a combination of things iirc but maybe that was just the image gens
anon
the image gen has different models depending on the command but the text generation is all deepseek with different prompts or temperature variables
>>383280
terry
speaking of, what distro do you use saeki
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heres the talk, also his legal name he uses for his journalism
davesprite
>>383276
ah interesting, based how much a light deepseek implementation can do
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i listened to the pod story on the other hacking/game dev mentor i had when i was in high school the other night (played the pod here n talked w peeps)
n she was a trans reverse engineer n hacker who was so incredibly smart n kind, was sent to a male prison for two years due to bein in a hacker group who went way too far in her teen years
but took a lot of lessons from peeps like this as they can tell poeeps how not to n how to create a code of ethics when thats rare in the scene nowadays
anon
.skip (voted to skip this video)
davesprite
who queued Tchaikovsky holy shit that's based
terry
i use arch (btw) but i wanna try nixOS someday
anon
.skip (voted to skip this video)
davesprite
. play Vivaldi 4 seasons full suite
davesprite
.play Vivaldi 4 seasons full suite
davesprite
ok see y'all later lol
i love ouran but i would rather read mor psycholonials than rewatch a random ep
straw girl
bye dave
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cya dave
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:3
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hoping to, with my archive n community/union like media/writing n documentary group, create a space to teach these lessons to a wider group of people n how to be safe, protect vulnerable peeps in their community n so on
terry
bye daviee
terry
cuz goddess made me this wae
anon
🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
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hi nona ~ !
cringenona
hi !
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- 3-
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weba hru
cringenona
my bf just said hes never watched ouran high host club
cringenona
it changed my life back in the day
terry
me neither tbh
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aw
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my ex bf tried to/showed me a good bit of it
i hope to be able to watch it w someone im actually safe/comfy w n can be open abt it w down the line
terry
i was never too into anime tbh but I'm trying to change that these days
anon
Web Audio
anon
i can't imagine dating someone
cringenona
me neither, but maid sama, saiki K, parasyte, ouran high, and a few others were my love
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oh god, i need to get a photo of that shirt that ex bf gave me n the absolute cursedness/horror of it lol
and no no dw ! lel
terry
sorry u didn't feel safe w ur ex, hope u find a better partner one day <3
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not peeps fault n is smth that happens, just wan explore the media once i have that space again, i hope u 2 can get to watch n have a nice time w it, rly ^^
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< 3
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(✿◠‿◠)
terry
x3
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cus its funny, i wanna find that shirt (funny in a absurd wtf dude way), but this guy is kinda why i stopped dating men for a long time, even tho am pan or demi or such bwa
he told me we were gonna go to an anime convention
n i went in a skirt n so on (its midwest windy, -15f winter, him also wanting me to wear a bridget cosplay for his sake) n at a hotel
with no warning it turned out to be a furry con w uh
anon
so are you all zoomers here
cringenona
yea
cringenona
2003 here
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yk
giant furry con that was like
18+
kate
1999
cringenona
im not really young anymore
>>383330
terry
oh god that sounds cringe lol
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aw
anon
>>383326
bro was born after 9/11 and is acting like they already 75
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yeah, i have a lot of frens who are furries n im puppyg/u/rl brained but
that was like such sudden whiplash of expectations lol
anon
furries love the midwest for some reason
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yeah, i can say that
cringenona
im in the midwest an im a puppygirl L3333
>>383336
straw girl
i turned 18 this month
cringenona
minnesota is based i love waltz
terry
i was born in y2k and i dont really understand anyone born after like 2010 lol
anon
i think the midwest should be nuked except for albert and illinois but ohio, indiana, michigan, wisconsin, IOWA AND MINNESOTA deserve to be eliminated
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🥺
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ok edgelord
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minnesota not cool to nuke smh
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(i dont even live there)
kate
It has occured to me my brain has not registered which states are east and west
anon
minneapolis can be exempted
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lol
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i need to visit minneapolis eventually, i think i went a long time ago
terry
SODA!!!!
anon
chicago and minneapolis can be exempted
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[no comment[
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aw
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cuties
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>>383350
r u from around there lel
terry
i like chicago because it sounds like an IRL GTA city
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oh yeah that guy the furry guy had me living w him in a sketchy area, two bedroom apartment w someone else in chic
cringenona
im not from around here no
davesprite
>>383351
chicago is great but heavily policed so like don't be suspiciously parked and don't be black in the outlying areas of the city driving late at night
low-key just like, v rough police situation and especially outside the city limits i think
but it's otherwise a nice place to live
>>383364
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yeah
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the point a lot of the groups who do aid there will tell you is how the police are much of the reason the violence cycle continues, the insertion of them into any situation leads to so many issues n the need for a collective/affinity group of friends to protect themselves in ways they shouldnt feel to need to
anon
All of America is heavily policed
terry
sorry im not american so idk
anon
detroit has more black people
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>>383364
yeah detroit has more but chic n eastern chic into indiana has a lot
kate
This show has very intricate backgrounds
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ive been nearly arrested for stupid ass reasons 4 times there
kate
Do they still make pepsi max I thought that was limited edition
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one time idk if they noticed or looked me up n down as i was in a passenger seat of a car w a guy but they gendered me correctly lol
>>383375
davesprite
>>383370
it's okay, the police it's made from are free ra--
wait free range cops are not a good idea
davesprite
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we should lock up all these criminal gangs terrorizing our citizens!!! (i mean cops)
::pig
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:)
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1312
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heh
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real ::waow
terry
police in general needs to be replaced with like community guards who are on rotation, given actually decent training and are still held responsible for breaking the law/terrorizing people jusy like any regular citizen
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::woaw
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bwaa
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also i learned of how the supreme court decided in the past that the police can deny applications because someone is 'too smart'
>>383391
terry
i cant even begin to comprehend how qualified immunity is a thing in america, it sounds so over the top corrupt for a supposedly "free" country
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and that police unions get them out of e v e r y t h i n g
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take for instance, portland
davesprite
>>383381
i think we need a tiered system. there is a place for swat teams with military grade hardware -- big drug labs and organized crime busts and stuff -- but we need like, some cops whose job is just that, others, beat cops, going around unarmed and friendly and like doing wellness checks and stuff
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also in the meantime, there needs to be replacements of such w mental health n such resources as has been shown to actually help, as we would have the lowest crime rates if police did anything to lower crime
anon
>>383385
this wasn't the US Supreme Court it was the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals
kate
oh it didn't embed
davesprite
>>383381
also okay while i like your community guards idea i think people might oppose it
i've thought about something like this (mandatory militia membership for all gun owners -- keeps them safety trained and morally grounded but pleases righties)
but i think it's a tough sell to demand labor like that
most you can do is mandated education, and volunteerism, and tax funds sloshed around
>>383399
anon
the domain is AIDS
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yeah, i was glad to see the ohio community stepping up to protect their kids after the police n neonazis collaborated again recently to yell slurs at them on the way out of shcool
terry
>>383394
the reason that I said that guards/"cops" (hate that term but wtv) should be selected from the community they're required to police is that so many cases of police brutality come from cops who are not from the area acting with extreme prejudice towards people whom they otherwise don't understand why they act that way. even putting aside cultural differences, it would help if the person who found someone acting erratic one day knew for example that they are autistic or otherwise had some condition that made them act that way and that there is a proper way to deal with them other than just shooting blindly
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school*
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yeah, theres also been good systems in some places where it worked like somewhat of a draft or community expectation, where members would do such n cus of that usually have their communitys needs at heart
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(w systems of vetting, obvs)
davesprite
i like the term city guard btw
NYCG is a little silly but the meaning kinda changes totally from that
even "police" directly implies "agents of the police power (monopoly on violence) of the state" which is not what cops should be in 90%+ of situations they get into
de-escalation and protection is their job
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lel yeah id prefer that even if i still think more work would need to be done, but there have been a lot of good discussions/writing/vids on the methods of community justice n how it can protect communities & provide better outcomes for the victims n for getting perpetrators back into society
anon
yap dollar
davesprite
>>383399
wait you just gave me an idea too (keep typing but just adding)
we have a current problem that people just kinda don't want to be counselors. there is a global mental health crisis and not enough support
but cops are uniformed officers, and past the stigma were and still kinda are sexy
mental health cop is a way to drive people into the field of psychology and like, improve the quality of policing in disabled and mentally ill communities (the most underserved and driven to crime by the current system) at the same time
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hiii! weba c:
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i luv u 2 peeps
kate
Definitely gonna watch more episodes of this, it's cute
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awoo hecc need to make into mp4
>>383414
davesprite
>>383399
read all but not much else to add except yeah cops need to act for de-escalation and they do the exact damn opposite all day long it's infuriating
they should be following the rules set for troops with civilians in war where like it's illegal to shoot unarmed people or fleeing or surrendering etc
then again the troops don't really follow those rules either .-.
but both should
suspects are civilians, not enemy combatants
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oh ye! ill send sum pics of the stuff i got at the thrift store earlier n the keyboard i finally hab thats pleasant to type on, compared to what ive been using for 2 yrs
anon
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terry
okay chat im going to try and get some sleep now lol
>>383422
davesprite
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gn terry! sleep well!
::sleep
Aleixi
nini terry :3
terry
<3333
straw girl
also hi aleixi
Aleixi
gai straw girl i love u rfen
>>383431
davesprite
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>>383418
take a little chocolate every time you do something that advances the collapse of global oligarchy
::fire
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fr
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it be
Aleixi
>>383452
not my president!!! its my headcanon kamala won
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making mp4
kate
I think it's "ffmped -i "input file" "input file.mp4""
davesprite
do you think 19th century wonks like marx ever envisioned that the revolution would be born from weirdo american capitalists with personality disorders
>>383444
straw girl
>>383434
live footage of me typing a doompost
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:3
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real
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me or who dave .3.
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bwa
awe
davesprite
>>383444
it'll happen in the streets yeah that's the whole idea babygurl
come on and join when it's time
also #check (checked)
&
#trvke

maybe
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but
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yeah ive read a gud amt of theory on such, i need to read some more of (even if i disagree w some of the structures they use) platformist n the evolutions that came after, confederation movements n structures as we've seen in africa n so on
>>383450
also yeah, i dont mean it necessarily means its gonna happen but a tool for mass democratization of information n communication is a massive possible tool depending on how you approach it, n take it w opsec n security culture as u would in person actions
davesprite
>>383447
web enables doesn't create alone
twitter helped the arab spring but mass movement made it happen happen
>>383449
anon
There have not been any revolutions since 2011
straw girl
>>383453
dave.......... u responded 2 the rong post..................... :((((((((
>>383456
davesprite
>>383455
it keeps happening dog
i warned you
i warned you about phoneposting
>>383458
davesprite
::stairs
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>>383453
gooood
for those who dunno the history/structure of much of this narritives creation, check out Benn Jordan'd vid : [YouTube]
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also i heavily recommend benn's new video on post capitalism, im so happy to see he blew up w near 3 mil views in like a month
was a patron of his for a few yrs n learned in chatting on his stream, he told me he had taught jazz at the school where my dad books concerts lel
davesprite
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>>383462
i can't believe the same person who made this is genuinely an inspiration to my real life political activities
i may have been dropped one to many times as a baby
::brain
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davesprite
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>>383465
<3 awh tyyy
<it's true i am a once in a generation or at least one in every few million brainlet twice exceptional savant of bullshit and the embodiment of chaotic good who will salvage the burning wreckage of the united states with a smile :o)
>>383472
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<3 qt n precious chatters
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i need to reread after the revolution before the new novel comes out
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i might buy a zastava
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like a uhh
which specific models, i luv the m76 n m79 but hmm
81 is cool too, i believe (off the top of my head idk)

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