>>409661
>I'm so jaded at this point that I have a hard time seeing why a coup would even matter, I feel like the Democrats definitely use the "coup" thing as just strategy for politics and whatnot.
I think that if someone attempted to overturn an election in the way Trump had intended, where Trump was fully aware he had not won the election, had instructed his DoJ to lie anyway, and essentially created a circumstance where the peaceful transfer of power was interrupted, that's pretty important. My issue with the Democrats is failure to treat this issue with the vigor that it calls for, because Dems are absolutely terrified of ever coming off as aggressive.

>>409669
You should get a concealed carry, like seriously. After watching that video of Mahmoud Khalil getting yanked away, the officer not even giving his name, nobody in this country should be walking around with a gun.

>>409670
The right to vote is the foundation of the US along with much of the Western world at this point, stripping the right to vote or the significance of the elections will only result in a degradation of quality of life down the line as you will have leaders who are unaccountable to the people. People believe the West is much worse off than it is primarily because the West allows for vigorous self-critique because of it's institutions.

>>409682
The modern West is probably the best place to live in human history. If we are talking relative, then you cannot beat Western Europe. And I think that the value of Western institutions and values are largely ignored because we haven't really existed in an environment without them. There are regions of the World that have zero concept of peaceful transfers of power or common law or anything like that, these are not particularly nice places to live to put it bluntly. And as for real action, I believe that the right to protest has been undermined in the West, but I believe that we have room for real action. Political violence on the other hand is different, while I don't wholesale reject it and consider it unethical, it should always be punished because political violence introduces enormous chaos, of which it is often the exact people on this board who will be hurt the most by that chaos.

>>409692
I think that the Churchill quote always applies here. Nobody has ever argued that liberal democracy is perfect, everyone says it's the worst, except for all those other ideas we've tried at times. We've tried authoritarianism, we've tried command economies, we've tried most of it at least. Generally the best system we have is a mixed market system that leaves ample room for free enterprise along with a democratically elected set of leaders who broadly adhere to a constitution. Is it perfect? No. But the alternatives have favored much worse things.

>>409700
These are states which existed for an incredibly short span of time engaged in war for most of their existences

>>409700
I bring up the fact that they existed for such a short span for the simple reason that it would be incredibly easy to make any system look good if you were willing to eschew any sort of sustainability. Like with Fascism and the MEFO bills. We wouldn't say existing on borrowed time makes for a good system. Put simply, these examples were in a state of war and were around for a few years, they had a means by which they could justify enforced consensus and things like that. This is not the normal state of things.

>>409710
Command economies also favored economic growth at the expense of the environment, meanwhile the modern US is not the sole capitalist economy. In fact, we are actively ignoring market principles right now so that we can subsidize coal because the President is a retard.

>>409714
The Zapatistas are an understudied pseudo-nationalist insurgency, I am no expert on them, but I have little faith in some of the more grandiose claims about them. And while I do disagree with your assessment about how the failure is always due to external forces, I would also point out that bourgeois democracy also came from the womb kicking and screaming and coated in blood. A system has to be capable of standing against outside forces.

>>409730
Like I said, they aren't very well-documented or studied.

>>409730
As I mentioned, they are an pseudo-nationalistic insurgency, they really do have a pretty solid reason for why they'd choose to fluff up their accomplishments. And western leftists also have a shared reason for why they'd unscrupulously accept these accomplishments as fact.

>>409737
Well what sources would you suggest I check out? I say this primarily because I have seen the sort of media relationship that has formed around "Cuban healthcare" where much of the data is clearly fluffed out, where everyone involved is either going to ignore anything about it or unscrupulously accept whatever the Cuban government says, and where people assume that sources are less biased than they really are. It might be unfair for me to say this, I am not well-read on the Zapatistas and I will readily admit it, but they seem like there are loads of grandiose claims about their success while also being the exact type of group for which people would *make* grandiose claims that aren't really accurate.

>>409737
I view them with suspicion because of things like Rojava or the Cuban healthcare thing or really just any sort of radical political dealio (like lolberts pretending Pinochet caused an economic miracle or crypto-Nazis trying to cover for Hitler with some 'saved Germany' BS), there's just alot of motivation for everyone involved to fluff things up. The Zapatistas are engaged in a low intensity war, there is alot of nationalistic edge to their existence, and they are seemingly pursuing a fairly radical economic agenda. This just strikes me as an absolute hotbed for unscrupulous people to make grandiose claims about their success. I'm not saying you have to read every single thing ever about the Zapatistas to confirm everything in intense detail. But I do think that there should be some hesitance in proposing what has been more or less an underdocumented insurgency as a viable alternative for the global system.

>>409753
As I said, I don't claim to be well-read on the Zapatistas. I simply assert that there should be some skepticism overall when discussing them. Especially if you are putting it against a system that has a century of really strong documentation for all of its policies. I also think that you underestimate how critical the fact that they are an insurgency is. Their status as this sort of nationalist insurgency makes it much easier for their to be some sort of binding consensus on their actions. Many of these sort of libertarian socialist experiments are often short-lived and exist in a permanent state of war, and I suspect there is a common variable at play for why many of them don't really go beyond that. In addition, while I am critical of command economies, which I suspect we have in common given your preference for libertarian socialism, I do think that when discussing, for example, the USSR, it is relevant to mention their industrialization. Put simply, I believe that people want to live in an economy which grows. I find that many anarchists are willing to argue something along the lines of "worker liberation is worth sacrificing rapid economic growth for"

>>409770
>The common variable to me is that all the forces of hierarchy whether it's capitalism or the state want to crush these experiments.
I will return to this point, liberal democracy didn't have a comfortable birth. It came into being kicking and screaming, whether it's the US at war with the Brits (and later on at war with itself), the British having what was essentially a massive purge, Napoleon destroying the entire ancien regime. When you discuss the role of a state, the first thing that will be listed every time is national defense. You gotta have a system that is capable of at least engaging in the realpolitik to continue its existence, which is something that I believe these movements also understand, which is why Rojava aligned itself the way it did. Part of this realpolitik is sort of propagandizing itself on the World stage.
>I have thought that myself so many times because the economy has been growing where I live and it simply hasn't benefited me, maybe that's just my experience, I don't know.
Government spending is often predicated on an assumption of economic growth in the long term, whether you know it or not (because it is very diffuse), you do benefit from economic growth. Not to mention that people do generally like to have things.

>>409773
Systems like social security have economic growth assumed and built into them, the assumption of an expanding tax base is what underpins our decision to engage in what is often necessary deficit spending (whether the american right is willing to admit it or not). I do find the idea of worker cooperatives and all this libertarian socialist ideas interesting, but I personally would like to see more pilots for this system of economic organization within liberal democracy. And I do believe that ESPECIALLY THE US could use substantial reform economically and socially. I think one of the strengths of liberal democracy is a capacity to take and subsume critique in order to improve itself.

>>409786
Realistically, every system that exists is a collection of slapdash quickfixes more often than not.

>>409789
I think it's a question of being economically competitive. Also in general, many of these pilots tend to attract some more... cultish types... just due to the fact that the US doesn't really have a strong history of this type of economic organization outside of religious movements like the Oneida or groups like that. As I understand it though, in Western Europe you do have some pilot worker cooperatives. But discussion around their feasibility is really complicated. Many of them come from a sort of hail mary play where the company sells itself to its employees so it can continue operating, with relatively few forming spontaneously within the market because for a variety of reasons like workers not wanting to water down their shares and things like that these types of cooperatives have issue growing rapidly.

>>409780
For as often as the US is its own tripwire with its relationship with Latin America, like for example PBSuccess and just the general assumption that anything vaguely left wing must necessarily be part of a plot to fuck over the US; I do also think that the US is often used to buttress the legitimacy of some fairly incompetent or destructive regimes, like with what is happening currently in Venezuela.

>>409793
Once again, I will remind everyone now is the time to get a concealed carry permit.

Concealed carry weapon

>>409801
Everyone should have a gun, that's a right imbued in all people by our creator

>>409809
If they want a system that uses force, then they should be prepared for a forceful response. I think /pol/lacks would be much more polite if there was a gun pointed at their face.

>>409810
It makes my skin crawl watching that vid of that foreign grad student getting grabbed by like four or five guys. Like actually how did people not think "holy shit she's getting kidnapped, I need to intervene"

>>409812
I think there was a time like a decade and a half ago where people sort of eagerly clinged onto a sort of victim status, but LGBT people have always been willing to stand on their principles. This idea that they were weak was a psy-op unironically.

>>409815
"we have to protect our white wimminz" has always been the rallying cry of the right wing.

>>409819
I think the broader left wing and honestly the center at this point need to start getting on the warpath. Not literally like le civil war, but there needs to be an attitude that one of the two currently existing parties will cease to exist within the next two decades, and it sure as hell better be the Republican party.

That is to say, it is time for the libz to start utilizing democratic centralism, welcome back Lenin

>>409827
I like the outfit

>>409826
idk, I think that the old old old school hard left online types hate social media like the plague.

>>409835
I'm sure saeki would be a good person to talk to on this, because alot of those lefty dudes were actual 1337 haxxors.

>>409835
>insulting people for not understanding Marx while sitting in their armchairs.
I also I do this

>>409837
Not just it being unforgivable, it's just very clear and has been for like honestly decades at this point that the American right wing is entirely centered around neutering any opposition electorally.

>>409843
VGH we could be in a Bidenist Utopia by now if we did this

why can't anime boys be real :(

excuse me what are you queuing

okay carry on

idk I found it on 4chan.org

>>409858
hey bb mind if I smell you

kino

THROW DYNAMITE AT YAKUBIANS

VAPORIZE YAKUBIANS

VAPORIZE YAKUBIANS. IMPALE YAKUBIANS. BLOW UP YAKUBIANS WITH DYNAMITE

Me when I learn the ancient egyptians were negro

this is peak

Time to purchase the DVD copy of black history man

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>>409886
#edit BLACK to EBONOID

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I just don't get why he hates Arnold Schwartznegger so much

#smartai what race were the ancient egyptians

The ancient Egyptians were an indigenous Northeast African population, genetically and culturally distinct from neighboring groups. Based on anthropological, archaeological, and genetic evidence, they belonged to the broader Afro-Asiatic-speaking peoples of the Nile Valley.

### **Key Points on Their Ethnicity:**
1. **Genetic Studies** – Analyses of mummified remains (e.g., 2017 *Nature Communications* study) confirm that ancient Egyptians shared close affinities with populations from the Levant and sub-Saharan Africa but were primarily part of a North African/Nile Valley continuum. They clustered closest to modern Coptic Egyptians and other Maghrebi populations rather than European or sub-Saharan groups.

2. **Physical Anthropology** – Skeletal studies show variability—some had Mediterranean-like features common in North Africa, while others exhibited tropical African traits (particularly in Upper Egypt). This reflects natural diversity within a riverine civilization spanning over 3 millennia.

3. **Cultural & Linguistic Evidence** – The Egyptian language is part of the Afro-Asiatic family (like Berber, Semitic languages), linking them to both Saharan and Near Eastern linguistic roots without implying recent external origins.

4. **Self-Perception & Depictions** – Ancient texts describe themselves as *"rmṯ n kmt"* ("people of Kemet," i.e., Black Land), distinguishing their identity from Nubians (*Nehesyu*), Libyans (*Tjehenu*), or Asiatics (*Aamu*)—but their art used symbolic color conventions (reddish-brown for men; yellow for women) rather than strict realism.

5. **Later Admixture** – After foreign conquests (Assyrian, Persian, Greek, Roman periods), gradual gene flow occurred—yet core ancestry remained rooted in early Nilotic populations until late antiquity.

### Conclusion:
Ancient Egypt was an autochthonous African society with ties to surrounding regions but not identical to any single modern racial category like "Caucasian" or "Black." Attempting rigid classification risks projecting contemporary concepts onto a complex civilization whose people simply saw themselves as Egyptian first.

Would you like deeper analysis on specific dynasties' demographics? what race were the ancient egyptians

Did black history robot just massacre the entire audience because he didn't know that the ancient egyptians were ebinoid

>>409894
Yakub, the Big-Headed scientist and creator of white people, my ancestor :D

>get bullied for having a big head
>create white people

>forced to leave the hollow earth once again

My favorite part of the Yakub story is that Moses blew up white people with dynamite

>>409900
are you denying the existence of Yakub rn

libpol is a yaqub affirming website

the melanin-ite children what the fuck it's even cornier than I remember

Scientology wishes it had this level of deep lore

idk I watched Battlefield Earth one time, so I am basically a scientologist

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we have the Battlefield earth full movie on youtube

fuck yeah

>>409918
Silence you Yakubian ape, the EBINOID man is talking

>>409917
it's a scientologist propaganda film

Get this guy on Joe Rogan right now

.keep (this does nothing but your voice is heard) so that the TRUTH can be posted on libpol

CURSE BE UPON YOU YAKUBIAN APES

L. Ron Hubbard, you only good peckerwood

>>409942
it's age restricted I think

My ancestor Yakub

>see magnets
>invent white people

Damn, this lord xenu guy kinda spittin facts

Billions of Thetans must die

Basically you believe in god because of movies, when really lord xenu is causing spiritual harm

>>409957
Silence Yakubian ape, your effeminate behaviors will be punished by the EBONOID man

>>409959
they trifecta

I can't believe they are hiding the hollow earth from us... so sad :(

This is a pro-WEF, pro-Bug Eating, pro-Pod living board

This is a Klaus Schwab enthusiast board

>no mention of the Atlanteans
Already inaccurate

We'd be exploring the outer singularity by now if not for this....

holy kino

Hearts of Iron and its consequences have been a disaster for humanity

Okay the top comment on the Yakub Explained video:
>One of Yakub’s first creations was actually the smoke alarm, however, due to the ebonoid tribe’s refusal to replace the batteries, Yakub invented a new race that would.