So yeah this really sort of covers it, because essentially this was exactly what I was talking about

The sort of academic discussion is that option, the whole uh I wouldn't say "it was necessary" but rather, Stalin redirected grain away from the peasantry into the cities to disastrous effect

He essentially fucked shit up hard, which funnily enough is why he lost his right socialist support and ended up having to purge everyone so hard

Because prior Stalin was in the good graces of the right socialists that were big NEP fans and such, but they all said "bro collectivization is a bad idea, don't do this, bro don't redirect the grain" and Stalin was like "I want FACTORIES" and fucked the whole entire system up and they all stopped aligning with him

But yeah, this was exactly what I meant, that uh... like there is a scholarly debate of "was it a genocide" that is very nuanced, but tankies use that discussion to present it as "nothing happened and Stalin was INNOCENT!!!!"

Oh the Kronstadt rebellion

I know alot of tankie apologia because I have an interest in the history of command economies

And it's impossible to read about the USSR or the Warsaw Pact or what have you without running into insane apologia, it gets REALLY bad when it is unchecked too

This is why uh I remember having a convo about the Zapatistas here, and I was essentially like "I just don't trust it" and that is a major factor in why, I have just seen so, so much unchecked apologia and propagandizing, it makes it hard to just say "trust me on this one"

>>723488
I have no doubt that those movement have their upsides, it strikes me as a sort of indigenous movement that probably handles resources decently. I think the two issues I have is: you see this alot, but glossing over glaring flaws involving repression and instability, and two the reason why they are successful not really being something that would get replicated elsewhere

>>723492
I mean, they were the ones that held the mantle of socialism for like the whole of the 20th century and are still represented from the leftovers of the Cold War

Cutie

>>723509
The sort of name brand socialism I see today is the weird pseudo-nationalistic third worldism stuff and then democratic socialists in the West

>>723523
Yeah

>>723528
Yes I know, but they don't even make the "repressed third world proletariat getting their surplus value extracted", they are just full blown nationalist movements

Like I don't even know if I could call it Maoism at this point because it is *so* detached from any of the sort of underpinnings of socialism, it shares way more in common with the sort of nationalist movements you'd see in the 20th century

>>723535
Posadism

I am liberal Bidenist with Kamala characteristics

>>723545
You know what I always think is hilarious

>Be US
>Be not a nation-state
>immediately after WWI push for the establishment of nation-states
>give up
>WW2 happens
>push even harder for nation-states
>get mad when some of these nation-states go commie
>begin overthrowing nation-states
>Now your non-nation state is largely responsible for the establishment of a significant number of nation-states and your name is synonymous with overthrowing nation-states

It's kinda funny how that worked out

>>723551
same

I'm gonna get a badass tattoo of like a badass like lion with a machinegun and like flames coming out of his mouth while he smokes a blunt and it's gonna say "this bad bitch gets pussy" underneath it in cursive

we watching a 20 minute video on electoralism NOW

.play [YouTube]

>>723572
love you too cutie

I demand a LIBERAL dictator to come in and DEMOLISH the government DESTROY my enemies.... by letting them vote with a ranked choice system and empowering the House legislature

Texas gerrymandering is FUCKED

cutie

Go ahead, by all means

hello

just got back from seeing my grandmother, what's up everyone?

>>723601
liberal politics

God I need to get around FPs paywall

I get their magazine physically, but the sub is in New Orlean

Foreign Policy magazine

>>723602
how liberal we talkin'

>>723619
I am like peak liberal

I am the most liberal, they call me Joe Biden

are you gonna challenge me to a pushup contest?

.play [YouTube]

Listen Fat

JOE BIDEN

wake up

Hunter Biden came off based as fuck in his interview and it's funny that right wing media is trying to make him look bad because he said the fuck word when talking about people getting sent to foreign labor camps

>HUNTER BIDEN NO THINK OF THE DECORUM! How DARE you say FUCK when discussing our decision to send an innocent person to a foreign labor camp

>>723647
hmm...

I would not assume too much until they tell you, but in all likelihood I suspect that you are right in your assumption

I agree, I think that you are probably right.

Oh yea, in that case you're good then

.play hunter biden invade el salvador

.skip (video skipped)

That wasn't the right video

.play [YouTube]

Based as fuck tbh

god, how have I not seen this wtf

He is full libbed out

This is peak liberal form

>you hate illegal immigration and keep talking about how people hate illegal immigrants, fuck you bitch, they work the jobs, stop sending them to concentration camps asshole

Oh I like this line too

Based as fuck tbh, the crack recovery is going well

I want the crack that he smoked

He actually talks alot about his crack addiction

It's a three hour interview

And it's really, really good. He's very blunt but well spoken

You can tell that like, he's authentically like that

I need to watch it, where can I find it? ah fuck it google hold on

.play [YouTube]

who is this guy interviewing him?

It's like an independent news youtube channel, they did alot during the LA protests

I really do think it's a pretty interesting interview

you think I could beat hunter biden in a pushup competition

Probably, I suspect that the severe crack and alcohol addiction did some serious damage to his body

But I know Hunter Biden has a massive hog so he has that going for him

So sad that Biden is out forever, you will never see /pol/'s catalogue flooded with pics of Hunter Biden's cock ever again

>>723684
oh god, don't tell me that

>>723688
When his laptop leaks were a huge deal, pics of his cock were getting spammed. It was a pretty nice size to be honest.

I'll be the judge of that

Oh and if you've ever heard about "the Biden laptop story being censored by twitter"

That's what they are referring to, twitter was taking down the dick pics, because posting nonconsensual dick pics online is... big surprise... against twitters policy

MTG also showed a gorillion pics of him fucking people

Oh shit there it is right there

It's fucked though, like having your dick pics showed off like that and sex tapes, it's like... fucked

I posted pics of mine on /soc/ and I am like... never again lol

wait hunter biden confirmed chan user?

No, he isn't, his cock was all over /pol/ though because they wanted to epically own the libs by relentlessly staring at his cock

No, no, no

unless I misheard

fuck

hold on

let me open the interview in another tab

Oh yeah, the Hunter Biden ran the wuhan lab lmao what the fuck

"The only place where you can talk about that guilt is in rooms of virtual strangers" - Hunter Biden

>>723721
He's talking about VRchat he has an anime girl avatar

He has a Ugandan knuckles avatar still

300k in back rent? What the actual fuck? Was he renting out a fucking mansion, like what the hell lmao?

>>723728
tell me that isn't real

>>723729
Every time you think... this is too much, this has to be fake, let it be known, they will manage to lower the bar further

Trump literally posted a top 25 epic moments slop video on his truth social to distract from the Epstein thing, like legit the thing that your grandma posts on facebook of people riding waterskies and shit

>>723734
I think they beef with the job market enough, I doubt they need someone else working against them lol

>>723740
You gotta go

>>723734
game design as opposed to programming?

You said you would go

>>723747
there was some guy I was briefly involved with who did that but dropped out, he was a little weird. Wanted to find about stupid shit, like REALLY stupid shit

>>723750
He didn't like my music taste and said I was too... i dunno bourgeois?

>>723751
I mean, you are a Steely Dan fan

>>723755
I feel like Steely Dan is sufficiently cynical and self-aware that it excuses me. That's why I enjoy it, personally. but the cross section of boomers that also like it is obviously insanely large

>>723756
Nothing is more bourgeois than consummate professionalism, a degree of cynicism, and a self-aware intelligence

>>723764
That's exactly what I expect lmao

HUNTER BIDEN

Man... Joe Biden... I love you Joe Biden....

Everyone in your family dies... you give your whole career for the country.... Joe Biden I miss you.... please....

I regularly post love letters in the replies to Joe Biden tweets

I talk to Biden like he is a scorned lover, because he is...

>>723782
I'll doxx you

Alright

I am thirsty

I'm a thirsty boy

I am gonna get a coke

Tell me if Hunter Biden says something cool

>>723792
am i weird if I don't like coke or soda in general?

>>723802
I prefer doctor pepper

are we able to skip this advert?

>>723807
I was going to work in Midland-Odessa for a while (these are deserted oil fields out in the middle of the Texas desert)

.seek 1

.seek 1

.seek 10

.seek 10

>>723823
I used to play that, yeah

Midlland-Odessa is a shithole, but you make like six figures working out there

The issue is that like... you live in Midland-Odessa

And the lifestyle is very much

"Remember, you are here forever"

People get trapped out there, the money addicts them, but they start getting.... West Texanized

Man was not made to live in West Texas

Working in a lumber mill outside San Antonio was enough Texas for me

this reminds me of passing through all those weird little towns in the southwest out in the middle of the desert. Just economic desolation... what do you even do if you're born there?

>>723833
I remember in New Mexico, there was a ton of cute small little towns. New Mexico is such a nice state

Also reminds me of driving through the panhandle of florida, met a girl out there, I still think from time to time "is she still out there? is she still as kind a person as she was when I met her?"

>>723834
I'm talking specifically about California/Arizona, some of those towns are just depressing

>>723835
"met a girl" :^)

>>723837
Yes?

How'd you meet her?

>>723839
I met her at a flea market funny enough, and ended up uh.... anyway she was a nice person and I still think about what a good person she was and just... how trapped she seemed in that town I guess

yeah

YEAH

exactly lmao

Ah

>>723841
You should go try to work in shipping, get yourself your months long furlough, make the big bucks, fuck around

>>723848
Yeah

Eh, with shipping and such, alot of people in it grew up doing it

In the US, it is like a HUGE nepotism deal

>>723851
the sailor who fell from grace with the sea

bunch of men on a boat... doesn't sound too bad...

>>723856
Oh yeah, we all know you want to be on a boat with a bunch of cute navy guys

I sailed a shitload as a kid