>>110679
no

>>110683
africa not real confirmed

or from central asia

se asia do have internet i can confirm

what else is tgere

Australia is real, Austria is real, Switzerland is real, Luxemburg is real, uhh, trying to think of more obscure countries

uve net someone from luxemburg?

>>110689
yes on /tttt/

she even spoke german lol

albania, ive never met anyone from albania

i can confirm latvia and lithuania as well, also estonia

>>110693
>lithuania
jonas ceika comes to mind

imagine meeting someone from slovenia or slovakia

zizek

.play [YouTube]

>>110695
but no, these places are not real either

everyone ive met from lithuania was super chill and nice

.skip

i think estonia is a really chill place

its a utopia for the tech enjoyers from what ive heard, they basically live in the future

yeah doesn't estonia have like fully electronic everything

voting and govt documents etc etc

>>110703
>>110704
yeah, i think they basically all get one card that does everything, credit card, insurance card, card that you clock into work with, etc.

>>110705
pretty based tbh, much more efficient although i guess also much more susceptible to hacking

>>110706
>accelerationism
what kind

>>110707
true

.play wkuk lincoln

>>110708
kali yuga obviosuly

i hate lhone typing

>>110711
right wing hidu larping accelerationism

.play steve jobs introducing iphone

why did he do it? >>110716

you have fucked up now

i didt do nothon

>>110720
evil lain

ihavent met anyone from venezuela

oh wait no i have

>>110723
me neither

>>110726
same <3

we was a thief and just generally an asshole

what does that even do

man i spent so much time playing that game

oh shit

lain's beefing it quite a lot in this vid

do u guys think this will flop

>>110737
its a gimmick, im putting all of my money into blackberry

the one with no screen were useless how did people use them? did they only have 5 songs?

i miss the time when you had to go to the royal court to hear the string quartets perform

i always had an ipod, my dad was always an iSimp

>>110748
what if u get it stuck in ur head youll never hear it again how did ppl live like that

>>110751
i agree ut was kino

>>110752
kinda based

>>110753
psycho

>>110756
go back to consuming cloud rap on loop then

i will

good4u!

iphone go brrrrr

iphone does what nokiadon't

>>110763
>t. android simp

ive been think about getting a thinkpad x1

.play clouddead rifle eyes

>>110767
i agree but its not like samsung or whatever is better in that regard

>>110770
true, you still cant open the device and they dont have replaceable batteries either. i dont really thought of software stuff as right to repair, tho i think i guess it is

>>110772
keyword being old here

fair enough, im a samsung user myself. but i dont think samsung is much more accommodating in that regard than apple is

apple has usb c tho?

i have s23 its ok i think

>>110781
only after everyone bullied them into using it....

>>110783
true

i think you should use whatever kind of phone you're most comfortable with
some ppl prefer iphones and the whole apple sphere

i dont think it matters very much

i dont think im gonna buy a new phone for 5+ years why do ppl get new phone at all unless like the battery is dead or smt all the phone are the same except apple

>>110788
true, it used to be that iphones were for tech illiterates but android has rly made itself a lot more normal lately
i'll always prefer android for the moddability aspect but still rec iphones for normies

>>110790
true. ive basically used android forever, but i still have an ipad which i like. i will say that the app store is much better than the play store

>>110789
#this is exactly what apple realised when people weren't buying their one thousand dollar phones every single year so started killing batteries so people would b forced to upgrade lole

>>110794
pancake'd

>>110792
yea the fact that rooting an iphone is like a fucking ordeal is quite offputting

i haven't rooted my phones in a few years tho and a lotta androids seem to be in the same boat with secuirty bullshit

>>110797
me neither, theres very little reason to do it these days

miserable borzoi :(

.play carlos the roach

carlos :)

#ai steve jobs diet

Steve Jobs, the late co-founder of Apple, was known for his strict and often unusual diet. He believed in eating a primarily vegan diet with occasional indulgences in fish or eggs.

Here is an example of what Steve Jobs' daily diet may have looked like:

Breakfast:
- Fruit smoothie made with bananas, blueberries, strawberries and almond milk
- Whole grain toast with avocado spread
- Green tea or herbal tea

Lunch:
- Large salad with mixed greens, sliced carrots and cucumber, topped with grilled tofu or tempeh
- Quinoa pilaf
- Glass of freshly squeezed juice (apple, carrot and ginger)

Snack:
- Handful of raw almonds
- Fresh fruit such as an apple or orange

Dinner:
- Grilled salmon or steamed mussels
OR
-Vegetable stir-fry with brown rice

Dessert (occasional):
-A small piece of dark chocolate steve jobs diet

wait now im confused, so iphones and ipads not have usb c charging in the us?

what? they brought it back?

>>110813
i think it's that eu regulations required usb-c on all phones, and apple had to add it or else manufacture two different phones for us and eu (not worth)

>>110818
this much i did know

>>110817
i dont wanna charge them

ahh i see

say thank you americans

kiss the feet of europeans in thanks!!!! you are welcome!!!

>>110823
not enough, also every bluetooth headpone ive had had weird backgroudn hiss

wired is for quality
wireless is for convenience
i m o

>>110826
and the little noise the wires make when they rub against anything at all............... no bueno..

i dont use headphones outside anymore altho most of my lofe i couldnt leave house without them

>>110836
number six will shock you

>>110837
i am the zucc

benjamin linus is honestly worse lmao

eighty six percent milhouse

>>110840
do you wear glasses

>>110842
ofc i can't see without my glasses

>>110843
okay milhouse

😔

millpilled

pillhoused

>>110770
isnt it impossible to install custom roms on newer samsungs tho. at least the snapdragons

nice

ugh going back to my roots

with no trip

.play i got no roots

linux is so good

good news everyone

[YouTube]

>>110861
he'll face consequences this time surely

>>110862
i am just glad we still have people from numerous different states who can still lawsuit him, and relieved he is gonna be in so much monetary debt cause the power of his money is the root of the problem

another good news video
[YouTube]

>>110862
I dunno, i sort of think as a society we'll wait til he's dead to condemn him. Theres already precident of even like nixon being pardoned when politics was a lot more sane and nobody thought a president could just do crimes and get away with it. there's always a scary thought that it will open the door to purely political imprisonments

I do think he deserves to face justice for blatant crimes but i just don't think it'll happen and i think it would be really messy

I am really hoping that the polulist movenet he has will just fracture and dissolve with his eventual death

Because i think at least thus far the republicans have done a terrible job trying to cultivate an eventual replacement, nobody else is universally agreed upon within that crowd like he is

And if you imprison him and make him have actual consequences you risk a bunch of crazies with guns trying to siege the capital or his jail or whatever

idk if i even agree with all that but i think thats the logic behind him facing no actual consequences

like the judge who ruled on his jan 6 case said in some leaked document that had he not won the 2024 election he definitely would have been imprisoned for it

idk i think its a new aspect of the constitution and rules of our nation thats being tested right now, is it okay to try leaders for crimes

and i think historically its been very carefully avoided and the person is generally just pushed out of office and ignored, trump is the first one who's taken office back so

everyones still trying to figure it out

PSYCHIC BLAST

Lol

It's over

.play smokedope2016 in da party

wormies what do you do if you wipe the counter with a wet paper towel at least once every three days, if not more often, and yet your roommates freak out about the tiniest little crumb anywhere in the kitchen??? What if your roommates act like cleaning the kitchen once every 72 hours isnt good enough, and they act like everyones gonna die of a horrible disease if a crumbs around for only 24 hours or less?? What if even more annoyingly it's barely even visible in a mostly out of reach area?

remember always to thank ai after you ask it lots of questions so it remembers you're one of the nice ones and spares you when they take over :3

#ai thank u!!!

You are welcome! Glad I could help. thank u!!!

>>110879
idk i think you need to have a discussion with your roommate and set up some boundaries, maybe show them commercial kitchen guidelines or something and show that it's not a huge deal as long as it gets cleaned eventually and isn't much

.play [YouTube]

>>110882
oh yeah, i also told my roommate that "I clean up any crumbs that I AM AWARE EXIST", and its his overbearing ass "you need to get EVERYTHING" and like I say "I will try" and then the condescending ass "Trying isn't good enough you NEED to have a 100% success rate" perfectionist bullshit

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP

gttwhapawftwttbo

actually got up on time for once only for the lecture to be canceled. fml

why are trans so leftist if the only viable leftist movements in america historically have been racist and traditionalist

>>110889
why are you here arent there funner places to trolle

>>110890
honestly im not even trolling. i rly just think the only viable leftist movements in this country will court the lower classes by being bigoted eventually

>>110885
sounds like ocd or something to be tbh

or germophobia

>>110889
you mean mainstream trans, not all trans are the same

>>110892
>>110893
agree with you there anon, tbh I strongly prefer moderately dirty roommates over ocd clean freaks, unless someone is shitting on the walls or smearing food in huge massive quantities everywhere or idk not showering for like more than two weeks or some shit, i think moderately dirty but less demanding roommates are way better than ocd clean freaks

>>110889
we will never escape the nightmare of the economic left/right dichotomy being chained to a progressive/conservative axis

>>110891
i think you are trolling, theres really not much of a debate to be had here, progressives work for our rights, conservatives try to stop us from transitioning usually on religious grounds but also opress us on economic grounds as we are almost universally lower class than we otherwise would ve

>>110897
or they could just have never read a book, i think that applies here

>>110897
tbh it feeds my desire of wanting a theoretical future in which we are just all natal females, because i feel like in my own self interest, if transphobia is inevitable or something, then its better everyone is a natal female. saying this partly cause if theres any chance of me being reborn into another life, that may be the only way to be guaranteed to avoid male puberty

>>110895
same, i think easygoing people are the only people i can stand. I dunno, it sounds like this is causing your roommate distress and it's probably not limited to just this, i think maybe they need to see therapist, but its hard to tell someone that without seeming offensive. hope you can fixure something out

>>110899
this seems like weird and desperate schizoposting im sorry. this is the hand we were dealt, let's make the most of it. I think it's better to side with the people who are just weird about us instead of the people who are weird about us and hate us and believe us to be sex pests who should be eradicated, if not literally, at least culturally

>>110901
i mean i dont like hate all men or anything like that cause they dont choose it and of course not all individual men are bad, though i do think the human species would be better off exclusively natal female, if we could find a way to reproduce without male biology being involved in the future

>>110901
#truthnuke (that command can't be used in this board)

>>110902
also #truthnuke (that command can't be used in this board)

>>110902
okay but that's an unreasonable political stance, you understand that right? that's a sci-fi dream.

it's all well and good to hope for that but it's never going to happen in our lifetime, lets try to improve what we've been given

>>110905
actually a lot of my reasoning is not about social problems related to men, but that i have a rather uncommon world view in that, i think that physically speaking the natal female body is actually more biologically gifted than the average natal male body, like less genetic mutations and longer life span and stuff. i think that in all honesty natal females are actually more biologically gifted, especially in a world with high tech technology

>>110907
okey but thats unuseful take politically, please tell me you are grounded in reality enough to understand that this line of thinking doesn't lead to any actionable proposals

>>110902
or we could continue evolving into a pair bondinf species with mostly identical genders like we've been doing for the past 10,000 years

>>110908
i understand its a goal that is not in the near future anon, i know its a pipe dream to think it could happen any time soon, but I do think its actually possible to achieve biological reproduction without male biology in the far far future

>>110910
yes sure maybe, but it's not certain. There are many unexplainable issues with the process, the earliest steps towards this like cloning, altering gametes to the other type, etc. all result in unexplainable, much higher mortality rates, lower viability, etc

>>110910
>I do think its actually possible to achieve biological reproduction without male biology in the far far future
the reverse elliot rodger utopia will soon begin

>>110912
oh??? my idea sounds like the reverse elliot rodget utopia??? if so thats a real interesting way to put it anon

It's possible that there is just no better way to do this. It's taken 2.5 billion years to get to this point, yes modern technology is good, but we understand biology very very poorly even at the furthest reaches of the field, and it may be computationally impossible to solve the "meaning" behind these processes in such a way that we can manipulate them like that, due to the number of molecules involved and computational expense increasing exponentially with each new factor in the system. The three body problem on giga steroids

>>110913
yeah elliot rodger wanted to like, kill off 99% of women and have the rest as breeding slaves underground. except in this case, killing off all men will be a good thing

scum manifesto was right

>>110910
also my real point is just that this is all well and good to imagine but it's a very worrying place to base any real life politics on

because it's so abstract and so far flung even if it is possible

better to focus on the things we can change presently yes?

I mean curtis yarvin is currently implementing his schizo ideas in the government rn so i say dream on

>>110915
I take estrogen cause its the closest I can ever come to being a natal female even though I am a trans female obviously. I don't hate men by the way, I just view the natal male body and everyone born with one as a victim of unfortunate biology. My hope is that, us trans females exist temporarily while a way is found to reproduce with no male biology involved. I am way happier as a trans female than the unaltered natal male life, but it is my wish that myself and all other trans females are replaced exclusively by natal females some day.. I also feel very flattered you likened me to a reversed version of elliot rodger, makes me feel like a supreme gentle woman lol.

>>110921
see this is why i dont like this line of thinking, it's way too easy to pick out just this part, "it is my wish that myself and all other trans females are replaced exclusively by natal females some day" and come to very evil and destructive conclusions. you are discussing something which us at bare minimum many thousands of years away

.play [YouTube]

this is epic

Lol they brought back the BW colours haha

Nice CSS

>>110922
It probably is many thousands of years away, maybe a million even. A baseline idea I have involves human cloning replacing human reproduction, and only cloning a handful of natal females.

and in that thought you have come to a currently actionable possibility, which is very dangerous and harmful

If everyone's female then no one will be because the human race shall die ou

this whole plan also has to stop any dysphoria from being experienced by ppl when there are no more men

>>110927
as of right now cloning has severe fundemental flaws and we are nowhere near understanding it well enough. even cloned plants and tiny animals have extreme problems due to cloning. The rate of general mortality for any cloned life is much much higher than normal, something like half the average lifespan, and we have absolutely no clue why this problem may be intractible

Cloning mammals doesn't work right

>>110931
>>110932
I guess what you are getting at, is that presently, we don't yet have the technology to create clones who are as healthy as their dna donor, that is a valid and worrying point. I guess the big question there is, what would have to be done to make the clones perfectly healthy, a lot like the issue of obtaining stable quantum computing but more biology related

>>110929
name one bad thing with this

>>110933
nobody knows, nobody even knows what we would need to learn to make it possible, it's an "unknown unknown"

Argentine president Javier Milei owns five English mastiffs who are clones of his now-deceased dog Conan.

>>110936
isnt that the ancap supervillain guy

>>110937
Yes

>>110936
Interesting, are all five of them in good health??

its so funny how they all just become fascists anyways lol, so much for the libertarian experiment

there may not be a solution. you are fighting a 2.5 billion year old computer the size of earth which has been working every second of every day to maximize reproductive viability and nothing else.

>>110941
either that anon, or it might take millions of years to more than two billion years to make the cloning idea work.

There may not be an accessible solution at all.

>>110942
yes maybe, but i dont like any idea which predicates itself on 2 billion years in the future but includes ideas with real life consequences like "trans women shouldn't exist in an ideal world" because that idea is very present and very real and damaging

do you see where I'm coming from?

>>110945
I would rather live as a trans female than the unaltered natal male life any day, I am just saying, I would have chosen to be a natal female if I had the option, and I believe that natal females are the most biologically gifted people, and trans females are the second most biologically gifted as long as we are on estrogen consistently.

>>110947
yes i think a lot of us would, but others argue they wouldnt and they prefer being trans because it makes them unique and is part of who they are. would you force them to accept your ideals as well?

>>110948
I wouldn't force my ideas on them no, I just feel like my life would have had more potential if I was a natal female instead of a trans female is all I mean.

I would rather live as a natal male than a trans female any day

>>110949
yeah, thats fair

Im the same way

I just think, you should be careful who you tell these ideas too because they might get the wrong idea about what you mean

>>110953
How do you think they would get the wrong idea??

>>110954
you said, in so many words, trans females shouldnt exist, its qualified by a lot of other ideas yes, but that thought still exists in there and it can be interpreted very badly because it's something that some people CURRENTLY argue for, and they see the solution as killing us, not waiting 2 billion years to scientifically alleviate is off this problem

>>110950
now this is agp posting

>>110955
Well anon, I mean, the core of me believing trans females shouldn't exist is me believing that ideally natal males should not exist either, I feel like male puberty is a tragedy of evolution, that theoretically at least we would be better off not having in the human species. Of course at that point, it would not be homo sapiens anymore if we somehow found a way to reproduce with no natal males, we would be some other sort of future hominid at that point.

>>110956
What does that mean

>>110944
i read this

I am a natal male and I do not wish be female. I am a man.

>>110957
i understand what you're saying yeah, im just saying, others might not and this idea can be misinterpreted easily.

>>110960
sir this is a mrbeast burger

>>110962
Can I have 2 mrbeast burgers and a side of beast fries with a mr beast shake

People also use ideas along this strain of thinking to justify atrocities like genocide and eugenics. I know that isnt your intent but the similarity to their ideas can seem very worrying

I'm not that strong.

trans women > natal females > natal males

>>110966
To be honest, I think human cloning could help us, change society much much faster >>110970 oh well no I don't anon >>110968 I see it as natal females > trans females > natal males

>>110969
do you trust those currently in power to run the human cloning? I don't. even the good leaders, i don't think they have the capability to make the right decisions with so powerful a tool. and I don't think human cloning can help us change society faster because i think it is many many many lifetimes away

>>110968
TRANS MEN >>>>>>>>>>>

>>110971
trans men are either above or below natal females. maybe above

my transgender tier list

>>110972
what if its a theyfab

i think trans women are better than natal females

sry not sry

I think trans women are equal to natal females but are less than or equal to nonbinary people

>>110974
below natal females for sure

ok if im being real and objective, trans and natal women are both equal and greater than both males, but from the lens of gnostic cosmology i would say trans women embody the androgynous aspect of the principalities more than anything

>gnostic cosmology

>>110977
#oracle ()

>>110979
are you that schizo who posts on r/4tran4 about the divine androginy or smth

>>110980
they who have ears, let them hear
>>110982
no but they sound epic

Ah sweet a schizo

>>110983
They who have balls let them cum

>>110984
yaldabaoth jobbed

in other news im typing from firefox mobile rn because i installed an extension to stop me from using leddit

Im going to jump off a bed #oracle () #fortune

I knew you were a redditor.

>>110989
literally how

>>110985
#invert

>>110990
My 6th sense is detecting redditors.

I was picking up strong reddit particles

tbf they still do that but this time its the whole internet stealing their memes

Memes aren't made on 4chan anymore they're on twitter and facebook and ifunny and pinterest and discord and bluesky and youtube

>>111000
#oracle ()

>>110996
it's entirely 18 yr olds lol

>>111001
and they feature one specific man and his children: wojak

>>111006
Wojak was initially made on Kohlchan

>>111005
this is cope

>>111008
Im on my phone im going to connect a keyboard because typing sucks so much

this isnt a truthnuke, its a notherburder

*burger

>>111011
>phone keyboard

>>111014
You never used a keyboard with a phone before? Did you not have one of those flip phones back in the day

But that doesn't exist anymore outside of a few chinese handsets, so I have to use a dongle to connect an actual keyboard

>>111017
im too young sry i only remember my parents using those

You don't remember the BlackBerry?

Are you like 18?

>>111022
my mom had one but I never got anything like that, my first phone was an old 5S

I didn't have a phone for like 9 years

Imagine in space, there's entire space colonies of clones, and they're all super healthy super beautiful women who love each other, maybe even better yet they even have the technology to turn any human they encounter into an exact replica of themselves, maybe you lose all your memories on top of losing every biological trait you have, but it's a perfect form of assimilation. Male puberty doesn't exist, jealousy doesn't exist, all clones are either lesbians or asexual by default, and because of this clone colonies norms, there is no concept of LGBT because being a lesbian natal female (or an asexual) one is the norm. Imagine all this love, all this beauty all this harmony... Imagine they have the technology that, should they ever encounter a human or any type of human like entity, they can just turn this individual into a replica of themselves. That is my dream.

wait how old is everyone here

im 43, happily married with 4 children

everyone here is supposed to be over 18 is the important thing.

>>111029
im 86. my back hurts

i'm 110 years old

unironically im still in undergrad

>>111032
nibble if you are actually in your 80s curious question, how shocked are you at all the terrible ways society changed in like um around the 2020s?

There are no boomers on this website

>>111035
well everythings changed since my youth, i was born in the third reich and its weird that we dont have that anymore but i think its coming back

Oh it's coming back in a big way

That gum you like it's coming back in style

has anyone read abt the whole network state butterfly revolution conspiracy

for real though, my grandparents were actually born in the 3rd reich and living though the rest of the 20th century must have been such a mindfuck

>>111040
no tell me more

the ss killed my great-great-grandpa :(

i hate to say this but i think im starting to miss globohomo shit

all the antiwoke nonsense is just.. ugh

i will never be 30

wouldnt do that to myself

>>111037
wow well nibbles i honestly find it very comforting we have someone of your experience level to talk to here... On a scale of 1 to 10 how shocked are you at the return of 1930s esque nazism??
>>111044
yeah me too i miss globo homo best friends globo homo and globo tranno

>>110991
it's not something you have to worry about, it's genuinely so so far away to even clone like mice or even insects, and have them have a normal lifespan.

And there's a million ethics boards in basically every country who forbid it

Even [insert country whos government you hate here]

Pretty much everyone agrees its a bad idea and very cruel to subject a human to, and it's not even clear they would make it to voting age.

Illegal fringe scientists have claimed to make viable human clones several times and every time its been proven that it wasn't actually a clone, but just IVF or even a normally conceived person

If it was easy to do you'd expect someone to have made it work already because the basic process isn't insanely complicated and only requires a few million bucks of equipment which is chump change for genetics research

>>111055
so youre saying right now, if someone cloned whoever had their favorite dna, at least currently , it would probably end in heart break for the cloner and the clone... until the cloning health issue is fixed

>>111058
yeah its not even clear they would make it past being an embryo

Nobody has provably done it

#smartai what are the biggest obstacles to creating a clone of mammalian origin that has no health problems??? Explain to us in scientific detail.

The biggest obstacle to creating a clone of mammalian origin that has no health problems is the possibility of epigenetic changes. Epigenetics refers to modifications in gene expression that are not caused by changes in the DNA sequence itself, but rather external factors such as environmental influences or cellular processes. These changes can alter how genes are expressed and ultimately lead to variations in phenotype and potential health issues.

Another major challenge is ensuring proper nuclear reprogramming during somatic cell nuclear transfer (SCNT). SCNT involves removing the nucleus from an egg cell and replacing it with the nucleus from another cell, such as a skin cell. This process requires precise manipulation and can result in errors, leading to developmental abnormalities or compromised health.

In addition, there may be limitations due to incomplete understanding of genetic mechanisms involved in complex diseases. While cloning technology has advanced significantly over time, there is still much we do not know about genetics and how certain traits are inherited. Without a thorough understanding of these mechanisms, it may be difficult to create clones without any underlying health concerns.

Furthermore, ethical considerations must also be taken into account when considering cloning techniques for mammalian reproduction. There have been numerous debates surrounding animal welfare implications and potential human exploitation associated with cloning practices.

In summary, while advancements have been made towards creating healthy cloned mammals, several challenges remain including addressing epigenetic changes during development through rigorous quality control measures during SCNT procedures; improving our understanding of genetic mechanisms underlying complex diseases; and carefully navigating ethical concerns related to this technology's use on animals for reproductive purposes. what are the biggest obstacles to creating a clone of mammalian origin that has no health problems??? Explain to us in scientific detail.

You know dolly the sheep the first large animal they cloned? she died after like 2 or 3 years and sheep are expected to live 4x that i think

And what they dont tell you about that is that dolly was the single survivor of a trial of hundreds and hundreds of attempted clones

>>111064
thats very sad anon :( especially cause I adore the thought of cloning if the health issue could be fixed somehow.

>>111067
yeah thats relatively very easy and theres lots of routes that could take, organs are a fucking lot less complicated than whole organisms and theres already good proofs we can do it. but it wouldn't reallt be "cloning", it's most likely influencing stem cells to differentiate into the kind of cells you want, in a pre-made structure. Like get a bunch of stem cells, make the scafolding of a heart valve or even entire ventricle, put the stem cells on, give them they signals used during embryo development that tell stem cells to turn into heart cells, then take that and use it for transplants

>>111067
So you can like clone organs and nothing with a neurological system dies to create them???