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SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
c:
krissu 👹
when i came out my parents were like well we kinda suspected this and i just thought gee thx for helping guys
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
I feel like we are similar type of transwomen too the super self hating dysphoric type lolll
>>124946>>124945
Anonymous
>>124934
me too that sounds awful >>124944 yeah so many of us and for some reason almost always trans women more so than trans men, our transitions get delayed because our lives are so violently out of control for so long generally
>>124947
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>124945
yeaa... like, not having a family to invest in my going to school or having a normal life just puts you 10 years behind everyone else. it really sux.
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>124948
yea actually hes a perma virgin at 30 lol very wierd guy but nice enough. was very aggressive about gendering me correctly and stuff which was kind of nice hehe
>>124950>>124952
Anonymous
>>124949
i remember sadchan i knew i needed to get an orchiectomy by the time i was 16 years old, and i almost got an orchiectomy in my late 20s, i ended up getting one finally in my 30s and fortunately with almost no testosterone in my body past my late 20s, i was scared as fuck about like you know not getting fixed
fujo
>>124949
>very aggressive about gendering me correctly
aww thats kinda wholesome..
i lowkey wish i had someone in my life whom i knew like for a long time.
I didn't really have a social circle irl prior to like moving away and transitioning.
so idk what it's like.
>>124956
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
i dont talk to him often like .5 times a year but hes an interesting person. last time I talked to him he was talking about the next time he visits japan he wants to visit a brotherl but was really scared too lmao
>>124956
anon
my childhood friend became transitioned to being a man
anon
i've known him since we were both in primary school
Anonymous
>>124953
>>124952
i prevented my body from any more masculinizing at around the age of like 27, and got my orchiectomy one year ago, i lived in terror for so damn long, i'm glad i stopped getting testosterone in my body at 27 instead of like 50 or something which was my deepest fear
>>124957
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>124956
better late than never T_T
it really didnt accelerate for me until like the YEAR Before i finally could get on HRT. not all late transitioners are because they 'didnt realize' until they are 30. i knew from 10 i just couldnt access it. :(
>>124972
Anonymous
>>124965
i know that, most trans men start transition from like 18 to 25, meanwhile most trans women start transition at 30, and i think its cause the double standard of violence, i technically transitioned slightly earlier than most trans women at 27
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
call any white man short he will chimp out even if hes 6 5 lmao
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
i feel like cats and dogs do this because they are evolved to have spatial awareness through their feet because they cant see behind them so its literally like blinding them
>>124960
Anonymous
I was able to start transing at 27 just because i finally got lucky, i even almost got an orchiectom yat that age
fujo
idk past your puberty it's more about genetics than it is about age anyway, like i started at 20 but idk.
maybe it's worms, im not sure, but i really feel like im really bad off.
>>124981
Anonymous
>>124957
i know the feel sadchan, of wanting to transition since like puberty started yet not being allowed to its a horrible feeling, i transitioned only slightly earlier than you, and it was mainly cause i finally got lucky i took some risks and it was worth it, i couldnt transition any earlier cause i had so little control over my life and there was so much violent literally violent gender policing
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>124970
this is a FUCKING MYTH and is NOT TRUE. the masculinization that occurs in mid 20s is insanely potent.
>>124984>>124985
anon
besides people have been cutting off their penises for centuries.
Anonymous
>>124959
>>124966
well i cant deny that, a lot of the clusterfuck we are in is because of all this anxiety about white birth rates, anxiety about people who are desperate for white birth rates turns into transphobia very very quickly
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>124985
>>124984
its both but to say if you missed puberty it doesnt make a difference is insanely disingenious. you continue having new terminal hairs all the way to your 50s, most mens bones keep growing until 25, you put on large amounts of muscle in your late 20s, male pattern baldness is a life progression and you can have irreversible hair loss, male patternvisceral fat deposits can take decades to decades to die off.
>>124988>>124989>>124994>>124997
anon
Like I'm a regular guy and I remember that my voice didn't drop until I was like 14
Anonymous
>>124986
actually the bones can keep growing until 50, not most of the bones but some of them, thats the reason why like, a lot of us, our greatest fear is the thought of having to start transition at 50
>>124990
Anonymous
>>124990
yeah the john50 meme... its an mtf dysphoric nightmare, and everyone who became a john50 is a victim of extreme injustice, like literal john50s most of them ended up that way because of extreme transphobia
anon
*zaps you with the john50fication beam*
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
Saying if you missed puberty it doesn't matter is a fucking like, dangerous myth that can fuck transwomen over very badly. Its always better to trasnition earlier if you ahve the option to do it safely....

>>124994
sry i wasnt mad at you more PTSD from literaly regards on /tttt/ spouting off about what makes a 'lateshit' with no understanding of the changes the body goes through in your 20s.
>>124996>>124997
fujo
>>124986
i mean, from that point of view, i think you're right, sorry for speaking about things i dont really know that much about
>>124993
anon
I love reading 4chan's lgbt board as a regular guy because they're arguing and nitpicking about each other is highly entertaining. I've never seen such a dramatic group of people
fujo
>>124993
>sry i wasnt mad at you
i get that, but i still think you're right upon reading it again and reflecting on it^^
Anonymous
>>124986
>>124993
transitioning during puberty is ideal, but transitioning at 30 is still much much better off than having to transition at 50
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
and 20 is much better than 30. the more time you live with T the worse it is. it continues changing and molding your body for your entire life until around your 50s when your hormones taper off.
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>124999
are you trying to transition??? no get on HRT Now!!! lmao
Anonymous
>>124999
anon you want my advice, better to transition in your mid 20s or 30 then at 50
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
All the memes about Twink death are directly applicable to trans women lol
>>125012
Anonymous
i would recommend anyone with androgenic dysphoria to not allow their body to keep getting disfigured until they are 50
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
if you dont tranistion you will experience 'twink death' and stop being a boy and become a fucking actual man
anon
nah you don't want to see that
anon
i have done nothing so there is nothing attractive there
Anonymous
>>125004
yes twinkdeath, ever since i learned twinkdeath existed and shit i knew i had to prevent it from happening to me
>>125015
anon
i think i still look pretty young. like im not white so that may play into peoples view of me
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125012
tbh for fem gays who want to preserve their looks i think its totally valid to take HRT to prevent twink death xD
>>125019>>125020
Anonymous
i am so glad i dont have balls anymore cuz those things would have eventually given me twinkdeath and made me into a john50
>>125018
Anonymous
>>125018
>>125015
valid point tho i read horror stories of like a trans women who went into a coma and qanother trans woman in prison denied hrt and they both heavily masculinized and thats when i came to the conclusion hrt isnt enough i need an orchiectomy
>>125026
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125019
I agree totally lol.
Bodymoding should be normalized and considered based.
However, that shouldnt distract from trans people who need it to treat dysphoria.
There is a difference between Gender Affirming Care and Cosmetic Treatments and I will fight to the death on this issue.
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
Philosophy Tube please KILL YOURSELFFFF
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125020
very fair... I just want SRS though.
Anonymous
i remember when i was in grade school the later grades, and they had puberty class, and told me that my body would basically eventually turn into a john50 bod, and that a lot of the john50fication was gonna happen in just a few years, and i was scared as fuck. i was horrified when i learned androgenic hair existed and that i was about to develop it
>>125034
anon
everyone ages. i feel like a lot of people want to remain a virile 20 year old forever and that trying to stop it is an affront against life
>>125031>>125066
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125030
i dont mind ageing, i just want to age as a woman :(
>>125066
fujo
>>125029
just looked at vids of his, wtf, i kinda cant believe that hes 47
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
well aso I dont want to age too lol i guess
anon
>>125028
that's kinda weird. I still remember in secondary school they took the girls to watch the old walt disney movie about mensturation and the boys watched some like 1990s tape about puberty during the lunch time and it was very boring like just figures and diagrams about like your voice changing and the descending of the balls
>>125036
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125034
i had a textbook on it in a class called health class. we covered male and female genitalia with like in depth graphs and such and also it had sections on drug and alcohol addiction and a bunch of other topics like that. basically just a class on understanding how to make healthy safe choices I think classes like that are important. i was very like ahead of the other high school kids on understanding that stuff though so it was really boring but I see the value for someone who was insanely sheltered
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125037
did u delete post?? xD
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
i didnt see it, but you cant overshare more than me hehehe
anon
I dislike this guys lighting setup
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
dont bully jammi pleasee
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
worrmie tube is poppin
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
MELON GANG
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SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
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shrimp
dont eat guac before u sleep
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
lmao u had the guac sweats
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russians and their wierd dogs
anon
i saw a red light underneath my plate of food and i thought i was actually losing it but it was just my phone
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
echidnas are such silly guys
Anonymous
>>125031
>>125030
tbh i just feel like androgenic aging is a lot more, idk feels extreme compared to estrogenic aging, theoretically i wouldnt wanna age past young adulthood, but i would choose estrogenic aging over androgenic aging any day
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
look at this silly irishman doing wood crafts
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
very wholesome man
shrimp
theres something sus about him...
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
NO
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
hes wholesome
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
hes not a rapist or into wierd porn or going to harass minorities online
shrimp
hes killed someone for sure
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
i hate men
>>125099
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
ur right
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
:(
shrimp
its possible though, that the person he killed, was worthy of death
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
a healthcare CEO?
fujo
i keep finding pics from when i had no idea how to take care of my eyebrows
fujo
i still kinda dont know, but its better at least
Anonymous
My favorite things about estrogen are, no androgenic hair/mpb stuff, and my cheeks and thighs seem to be getting progressively bigger iwth time, my mother had very thick thighs and very thick cheeks and the longer i am on estrogen the more it seems like my thighs and cheeks expand, which makes me feel way better than becoming a john50
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>never pet a seal
this is fucking big sea lion propoganda
shrimp
you draw them on after
anon
doesn't look right most of the time unless you have a steady hand
>>125096
fujo
>>125095
hah i dont have a steady hand, its so bad that i can not read my handwriting a day after i wrote it
fujo
so i just dont do it and use a keyboard instead :3
fujo
maybe i should learn how to do steno, it seems like a fun hobby, to be able to type like 250wpm
Anonymous
>>125077
you know whats interesting sadchan is that the average male body actually has more genetic mutations than the average female body, and like well, a lot of what i like about estrogen is it just, it feels a lot less extreme to the human body than testosterone for lack of better term, the stuff it does is nice, and it feels less holy shit yes it is me anon how did youy know??
Anonymous
>>125100
im giggling about how you knew it was me i find it touching and hilarious for some reason and now i am curious how you knew
>>125105
fujo
>>125103
your typing style is very unique and easy to tell apart from others
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
im on sealtube :)
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125109
nice command very nice :D
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125112
oh they castin a SPELL
Anonymous
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kitty here gonna play sum planetside 2 to keep my vrain occupied while waiting on my doctors checkup, i really really love all my cherished wormies, you wormies never change and are the nycest people
>>125122>>125135>>125119>>125121
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
#catbounce >^•-•^<
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
#catbounce >^•-•^<
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125114
i like that game its funnn but its only fun like 1/5 of the time but when it is good its soooo coool
>>125120
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125124
all u have to do to be a good person is stop being a bad person
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
this is an amazing moment for mankind:

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SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
how r u all today melons???
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125130
ur mom sounds based
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
ADHD havers, i present u this:

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SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
okay I doomscrolled for 2 hrs i have to cut off today no more doom scrolling
shrimp
somehow pulled a fuckton of mobs
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
i never did that dungeon in vanilla because its in a weird place to go too, but I did the cataclysm version a bunch of times as a level 85 heroic
shrimp
yeah as horde its out in th eastern kingdoms but the levelling guide i follow has you go there anyways
shrimp
its a good dungeon for loot too
anon
you ever have one of those dreams where you wake up and your awake-brain is like whaaat
>>125151
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125150
yeaaa i had a shitty dream this morningg :(
shrimp
i hate english class so much
anon
yeah so anyway, i had this messed up dream i was homeless and underaged and having to do sex w*rk for food and stuff
anon
sleeping in a sleeping bag on the sidewalk n shit it was brutal
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
i slept in a park when i was a kid for a few years but I didnt have a sleeping bag
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
it wasnt that bad, in the winter i would go to suburban train stations
shrimp
when i was homeless in the winter and lost my bed at the shelter i slept in the university across the street from it
>>125160
shrimp
lots of hiding spots
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
for awhile I would sleep at work, going behind the movie screens ( i worked at a movie theater for a year or two)
anon
im thinking about that guy who lived in an ikea
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
ikea sounds like a nice enough place to sleep but i feel like it would be impossible to get comfortable. ia ssume they ahve night guards and i would be paranoid all the time plus if you sleep in a place like that I feel like people would start to recognize you
anon
me2 but i just had a monster
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125167
ur on finnish time noww
krissu 👹
yuppp still p jetlagged
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
say something in finnish :)
krissu 👹
perkele :3
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
whats that? :3
krissu 👹
swear word
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
hehe i thought so
krissu 👹
suomi on niin kiva!
krissu 👹
saataa perkele vittu!
krissu 👹
Kuka perkele sa olet, ja mita teet minun talossa?
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
i recognize the question mark
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
mom the stripper archer is in my algo again
nibble
its probably just in my head. i always manage to convince myself that everyone hates me. but maybe its not in my head. it doesnt matter in any case
nibble
.play beatles penny lane
krissu 👹
i feel like a boomer for saying this lol but the beatles r so good fuck
krissu 👹
their melodies are so unique and so pretty it has the aura of like idk mozart or smth classical like that
krissu 👹
them and the beach boys altho im not a fan of the beach boys earlier like surfing cars & girls stuff lol
>>125193
krissu 👹
>>125183
aw im sorry
my best (only) friends in college were my math professors lol they were so cool
anon
i had such bad experiences as a STEM major in college that I actually converted to Christianity just so I could legally tell scientists to fuck off
krissu 👹
my fav professor was this kind old man who was an algebraic number theorist and i talked with him a lot
>>125198
nibble
>>125190
idk i dont think hes a bully. he seems pretty nice actually. i just think i was very loud during the earlier lectures and left a bad impression lol. ive just been more quiet since the start of the semester, and he interacts normally with me in class. he just doesnt say hello when i say hello to him outside of class lol
>>125197
anon
yeah maybe you were loud but he can get over
krissu 👹
>>125195
aw yknow the thing abt professors is that they interact/have interacted with lots and lots of young ppl yknow theres not much thats new to them im sure its worse in ur head
>>125243
krissu 👹
omg ya right lol... i feel like number theory is what everyone wants to do but not many get the chance
>>125202
nibble
>>125199
yes i like algebra its probably my favorite subfield but i still dont know very much, almost nothing really because we dont really do that in engineering maths
krissu 👹
aw sounds like ur not much different than i was lol
do u like groups c: that was my fav part
ring theory was the only class i got a c in in my college career though o_o
krissu 👹
>>125202
eh theres def a lot of ppl in that field but number theory is kind of like the rockstar field that many of the best and brightest are drawn to but it has relatively few like faculty positions so only the best get to do it for a living
nibble
now that you mention it, schulz and wiles come to mind
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125183
it makes me really sad when I think someone is cool and they dont like me :(
>>125209
krissu 👹
if ur interested in math u should consider going to ur professor's office hours c: that was an invaluable resource for me, and math professors love talking to ppl about math!
>>125211
krissu 👹
there were some classes where prob the only reason i got the grade i did was cuz the professor knew me and cut me a break cuz i was interested in the material lol
>>125217
krissu 👹
>>125211
oh gotcha, well if u get the chance i highly encourage u to c:
nibble
but thank u for the advice :)
krissu 👹
math ppl are some of my fav ppl... the school i went to was kinda competitive but the math students were so chill
>>125221
anon
>>125212
i've never had this experience, professors are bullies who give me F's because they are prejudiced against my religious beliefs
>>125218>>125220
krissu 👹
how can they even do that
nibble
>>125216
that sounds really cool. engineering students are massive assholes but you get used to it lol. you grow a thicker skin after a while
>>125227
shrimp
i want to kiss math on the lips
krissu 👹
>>125221
ya i heard that, i have a twin bro who studied comp sci and from the sounds of it his classmates sucked
>>125229
nibble
>>125227
yeah its even worse in other engineering fields. engineers are extreme hylics
krissu 👹
math ppl were all like mega geeks and stoners and stuff lol
krissu 👹
i should try that game it has been in the back of my mind for years
>>125240
nibble
>>125231
basically a gnostic idea, pneumatics are people who are naturally closest to god, uhh i forgot the second category and hylics are those with no spiritual awareness whatsoever
>>125242>>125253
shrimp
dw i googled it
nibble
>>125236
i dont really play vidya but ive seen some gameplay of that game and it seems WEIRD
shrimp
its very funky lookin
anon
anyone know of any like, good low-budget options for media player? something that isn't cucked and full of spy/adware
nonners
sponsor is more than video sponsor than video is more than
shrimp
yes! exactly!!1
anon
i was thinking of getting a raspberry pi for music and tv shows and shit, is it worth it?
anon
probably not gonna be using it for 4k video, but is it okay for like, 720p and 1080p?
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125237
me trying to be as hylic as possible because the pain of being human fucking asssss its assss i dont want to be awareeee

maybe ill be a cockroach in my next lifee
>>125254
nibble
>>125253
i think according to the religious schizo stuff the hylics are the most human though, because they can only experience pleasures of the flesh
>>125255
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125254
yeaaa thats what i mean though like being a normie, chasing material pleasures etc
>>125256
nibble
i personally want to focus on higher things but higher things keep rejecting me
nibble
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nibble
sometimes its hell yeah sometimes its oh no
nibble
probably true for marriage too though
shrimp
i just dont think marriage is for me
nibble
why
i mean i dont think its for me either but why in particular
>>125278
anon
anyone got recommendations for dry herb vaporizer for under $200?
>>125271
nibble
.play kanye west gold digger
anon
my mind doesn't jump to money when i think of marriage...
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
can someon please send me a cool half a milly to get SRS and FFS procedures ty
shrimp
>>125268
i just dont wanna commit that hard, its a religious thing, regular relationships are suffocating enough to me already
>>125279
shrimp
its probably also me being a bit of a contrarian like, i dont need some societal ceremony to define my relationship with someone
>>125281>>125282
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125280
but its like a nice memory and celebration. having all the people you love and know coming together to celebrate 2 people being in love i think thats nice
nibble
>>125280
oh so youd still be open to living in a marriage-like relationship with someone without getting married?
shrimp
yeah id be fine probably doing that but theres no promise itll last forever
shrimp
my ideal relationship would be like being a third wheel to a more dedicated couple i think
>>125289>>125318
anon
who wants to be part of the dedicated couple with me
>>125299
nonners
im only dedicated to yo aunt
nibble
im dedicated to the grind
anon
i dedicate this fist to ur face
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
im dedicated 2 being a loser :)
>>125302
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
shrimp needs someone to beat them into being a housewife. this is why we should retvrn to tradition
>>125303
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
an almight beating, i swear to god
shrimp
im very dedicated to videogames
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
what if an eldritch god dropped you into ancient sumer what then, HUH?
shrimp
i guess id just like. chill. do some gathering
nibble
you cant fix ugly and mentally ill tho
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125310
if ur lonely, and im lonely... we can be lonely... together
>>125315
nibble
>>125313
ugh some very creepy theatre teacher made us recite a poem along those lines in elementary school and i have to think about it everytime i read that gross
>>125317
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125315
lol it makes me think of futurama
anon
>>125285
i feel this but mainly because i have brainworms telling me i don't deserve to be in a committed monogamous relationship (lol years of sexual ab*se will do that to a gal)
>>125326
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
i just right clicked it and hit download wat r u gonna do about it hehehe
nonners
i only have 2 classes this semester, i thought 3 was minimum but apparently not? so i only have to go outside twice a week now, idk if this is better than 3 classes
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125323
well unlike japan in western countries you just end up homeless because your family doesnt feel obligated to provide for a leech
>>125327>>125332
shrimp
>>125318
i think a lot of it for me is definitely trauma related too but i aint got time to unpack that rn
anon
don't lie to my face
anon
>>125324
unironically the western idea that you have to be independent once you're 18 isn't even a traditional western idea, just 20th century globohomo banker psy-op
>>125336
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
if im not ugly id hate to see what you think is actually ugly... lol....
>>125343
nibble
.play sean connery on hitting women
anon
yes, banker psy-op
shrimp
we know you mean the jews. dont be like that
anon
i said what i meant and i meant what i said, you're the one who immediately went loljews
shrimp
suuuuuuuuuuuuuure
nibble
>>125334
i just need to look inna mirror, looking good is not one of my talents
shrimp
because everyone who says "global bankers" mean the jews its an antisemtitic dogwhistle
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
sean is 100% right here if i wont shut up you should just give me a good slap
anon
i said global bankers and i meant global bankers, why are you writing fanfic about some unrelated thing that i didn't even mention
shrimp
well ill take ur word for it
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
dont take my ugly privilige from mee by any cis persons standards im like a 4/10 on a good day
anon
in 2025 you can't even criticize the banks without someone crying "antisemitism"
>>125353
nibble
>>125340
are you the anon who queued absurd yesterday
no need to answer, i know you are
anon
gee how come you get 4 points when i cant even get one
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125349
genuinely feels like a false flag nazi statement lol
shrimp
like im not crazy right the global banker thing is an absolute dogwhistle right
>>125356>>125382
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
it is a low tier dogwhistle however I genuinely think you could just be like anti government / anti big finance and accidentally internalize a bunch of anti semetic dogwhistles
>>125361>>125363
nibble
>>125358
evils of modern finance? theres nothing evil about moving money around to make more money dont be silly
>>125362
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125361
i kind of agree. i dont care at all as long as quality of life is high. if this made up process is lowering QoL and letting retards like musk have acces to the levers of power then its clearly a broken system
>>125364
nibble
>>125362
>>125365
yup. i think you should create value to make money and i dont think trading stocks and shit like that does that at all.
which is not to say that i dont think trading is kinda cool but in an ideal world it wouldnt exist. like since you mentioned soros, his trade that broke the bank of england is genuinely so fucking cool im sorry
>>125366
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
if someone said global bankers and in their next statement mentioned geroge soros I would assume they were a nazi 100%
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125364
the most socialist thing I believe is there should be limits on property. like you legitimately cant own more than a certain amount of land as an individual, with much heavier restrictions for forigners in your country. so many countries in the western world are getting oblitterated by foriegn ownership and interference its nuts. its a huge contributor to the rent crisis. we have the homes for everyone, they just arent being rented due to a combination of rent price fixing by forign holding companies and bad zoning by local communities its so shitt
>>125367
nibble
>>125366
hmm germanys economy has kinda tended into that direction, with very high taxes in the highest tax bracket. i mean, it does lead to a strong middle class (which is great) as long as the money actually ends up where its supposed to go, but the drawback is that it generally leads to a culture of mediocrity. like americans innovate so much because theres just much more to gain. its hard to strike a balance methinks
>>125369>>125372
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
you can have as much assets and money as you want but land should be limited to make access to it more equitable. obviously there would be exceptions for corporations building factories and shit its purely for personal residential use which is how like 90% of gajillionaire wealth is laundered
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125367
thats kind of why I think it doesnt matter what system of government you have, its literally just how evil % your population is. im not saying any people are more or less prone to robbing the government blind or taking power for themselves im just saying that i believe the most successful governments were just run by on average more well meaning/principled people.
>>125371
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
like literally ethics of your average rich person is more important than any law or legal base or system of government
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125367
>like americans innovate so much
the reasons americans innovate so much is purely mathematically measurable. america invests more in innovation than almost any other country. us gov funds like an frankly INSANE amount of research into TONS of fields.

btw thats another trump and his magatards want to gut.
>>125373
nibble
>>125372
ill take your word for it. but i do think laissez faire capitalism does push people to innovate more an work harder, for better or for worse
>>125378
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125371
no. there is no morally gray thing here.

if you think its okay to rob the government, the government doesnt work. full stop, it is completely binary. the less people steal, the less corruption there is. it doesnt matter if you are democratic, communist, socialist, monarchy w/e. if your public servents rob the government, it will be bad. corruption is a personal choice, and there is no law you can pass to "fix corruption". South korea is a PERFECT example of this.
>>125376
nibble
>>125375
ehhh i think even "evil" people have reasons for the things they do. theres two sides to every story.
>>125383
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125378
yea, imo innovation is just a direct product of a governments investment in innovation. if a laissez faire capitlist country invested 0 into innovation it wouldnt innovate as much as a communist government that invests anything. remember the USSR won pretty much EVERY milestone of the space race for 20 years.
>>125381>>125395>>125401
nibble
>>125379
i feel like the outcome of the cold war is somewhat at odds with that idea
anon
>>125355
just because hitler was a vegetarian doesn't mean everyone who enjoys the impossible whopper is a nazi
>>125385
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125376
if it happens, it breaks the government. it doesnt matter if its sympathetic or relatable. if you rob the government, rob the common pot thats used to build the country the country jsut runs worse. corruption just fucks the government up and makes everyones lives worse. im not saying like, shoot every corrupt person on earth. im just saying in a society where its acceptable to commit corruption the government will fail.

the USSR was INSANELY CORRUPT in the 60s-80s and ran the countries into the ground. South Korea is insanely corrupt and despite their massive educated economy are risking hte stability of their country. Corruption in the US has gotten PARTICULARLY BAD in the last 30 years, and now social stability is at risk.
>>125391
nibble
but what do i know (nothing lol)
anon
shrug, i wasn't the one who started it
shrimp
you are the one who argued it tho
anon
so..... vibe check, not everyone who eats vegetarian is a nazi
shrimp
#poll vegetarians nazis? / yes / no
nibble
>>125383
heh. theres a common saying here that eastern europe is more democratic than western europe because in ee everyone can bribe the police whereas in we only the rich can
>>125398
anon
look it's a documented historical fact that banks in the 20th century started pushing the meme that everyone has to move out and buy their own house as soon as they're 18 so they could sell more houses
pandobra
im a vegetarian and i dont think ima nazi
anon
what you do with that information is up to you
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125395
USSR invested more, much more. the technolgies the US invested in we were ahead on. (nuclear power plants, naval technology, aviation)
>>125397
nibble
>>125396
my point is that the ussr still fell short despite massive government investments, and having a big state apparatus to begin with basically always leads to corruption
>>125399
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125391
yea but thats still inferior to just having not shitty police and judicial system.
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125397
yea but you cant run a country without a giant state apparatus. like beaurocracy is insanely fundamental for complex socities. you cant have a modern city with modern traffic laws or else you just have massive inefficiency that doesnt even allow those cities to exist in the first place.
>>125400
nibble
>>125399
i think you can cut down on government size tremendously. and yes l, beurocracy is necessary to an extend, the point is who provides that beurocracy
nonners
tesla invented so much stuff wasnt he funded by just one guy?
>>125426
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125401
yea thats true but the moon landing was goated and we all know it xD. But yes, the USSR dominated all space exploration.
anon
ofc. the U.S. makes a big deal about the moon landing but that's a cope, the goal was always to be the first man in space, U.S. just moved the goalposts, loser cope
>>125407
nibble
i cannot spell burocracy i give up
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125405
yea but its like moving the goal post to something 10000x harder.
>>125412
nonners
but ussr also landed on venus
anon
>>125407
so? if you challenge me to a 100m sprint and i beat you, you don't retroactively "win" just because you kept running like a dope
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125410
not people, rovers
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
we have color photos from venus its so cool
shrimp
i actually didnt know they landed rovers on venus thats pretty rad
nonners
i didnt last very long
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
image.png
BEHOLD VENUS
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
nonners beat me too it lol
shrimp
venus more like penus amirite
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125415
okay so if the US collapses in 20 years can we say the system doesnt work because a country that used it collapsed?
>>125428>>125432
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
thats ... thats not good to think that way xD there are SO many more factors in place
nibble
i mean, it depends how long that system existed and how it impacted the people living under it. but sure, a country that quickly collapses and makes everyone miserable (ussr, nazi germany in the former category, etc.) is just a shit system
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
well if ur asking do I think a US style democracy is better than the USSR? yea obviously the US was a much better run country than the USSR on like every metric but I dont think thats because democracy is better than communism or w/e. Its literally because the leaders were less corrupt. corruption just ruins countries. the less corrupt you are, the better off you are. there will always be an amount of corruption, and idk if laws are effectively good at curtailing it because corrupt peopel are literally breaking the law more laws doesnt stop them.
>>125433
nonners
>>125427
you can say that its been proven to work some amount of time, more than other systems
nibble
>>125431
i just think that a country with a large state apparatus (and that includes the us in the 21 century) is way more prone to corruption than a country built around a mostly unregulated free market
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
yea but its necessary for a complex society of a certain size, so you need a society that will naturally be less corrupt as the government grows.
>>125437
nonners
more people you have in positions where corruption is possible, theres higher likelyhood of corruption, instead of saying lets just pick the right ppl to put on those positions you should instead reduce the number of them and the probability of corruption will more likely decrease
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
also there has never been an unregulated free market but if look at economies that arent regulated they ALL FUCKING IMPLODE INSTRANTLY
>>125439>>125441
nibble
>>125438
again, its not black and white. you can have a more and less regulated market. i agree, an entirely unregulated market is probably not going to be around for very long
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
regulation = stability
and no one invests in unstable things
investment drives innovation and growth
you cant have like 1800s monpolization occuring because you just get 900 dollar epi pens for EVERY industry and society literally collapses
>>125443
nibble
>>125440
i disagree with the premise. once you have someone who can regulate (a government) that actor also becomes a player in the market, which brings about corruption to begin with
>>125446
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
like the multiple huge economic crashes in the US between 1870-1940
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125443
yea but corruption isnt just a set value. its 0 or 1. its like a % of government workers influence. if 100% of your government is corrupt, that comes with benefits and problems to the economy. if 0% is, that comes with benefits and problems. Less corruption is generally better for the the efficient distribution of resources. efficiency is important for large complex societies. its one factor, not the only one, but it is the bottleneck that is applied to all other human efforts. if a government collects 100 million in taxes and spends it on a cool golf course and then everyone starves to death like a bad ruler in a 4x game thats not efficient not matter how well balacned and productive the economy is.
>>125447
nibble
>>125446
from the perspective of a market actor, it doesnt really matter too much if the entire government or just a relevant part of the government is corrupt. once you have a player who does not need to play by the rules of said market, you can use that actor to win in said market

and that doesnt even take into account that you literally cannot defeat that actor
>>125452
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125447
thats just literally wrong. like a corrupt business man can still be outcompeted by an honest one. and also thats only a problem in an unregulated market.

unregulated market creates FAR more corrpution. take the oil industry in the US in the late 1800s. once a single company has enough money, any time a "better competitor" enters the market, they just bought them out so they couldnt undercut them. this allowed the oil monopoly to set ANY price they wanted for their commodity. it was ONLY regulation that returned competition to the market.
>>125455
nibble
>>125452
yeah but im pretty sure corrupt business men outcompete honest business men on average lmao

a regulated market literally just amplifies this problem, because the more you regulate, the more companies can influence those regulations for their own purposes
>>125458>>125459
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125455
thats what the REGULATED MARKET IS FOR
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125455
>a regulated market literally just amplifies this problem, because the more you regulate, the more companies can influence those regulations for their own purposes

what you are describing is regulatory capture, and represents how a society shifts to an unregulated market
>>125460
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
#ai what is regulatory capture

regulatory capture is when a regulatory agency, meant to act in the public's interest, instead ends up serving the interests of the industries or entities it's supposed to regulate. this happens because those industries have more resources, influence, and access to shape regulations in their favor over time. it often leads to weaker enforcement or policies that benefit companies at the expense of consumers or society as a whole.
what is regulatory capture
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
> weaker enforcement or policies
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
WEAKER ENFORCEMENT
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
LESS REGULATION
nibble
weaker enforcement != less regulation
nibble
potentially more selective regulation
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
in an unregulated market you get monopolization 100% of the time
>>125470
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
WHERE? Name one country with oligarchs that doenst have monopolies lol
>>125472
nibble
which is better than a state monopoly

>>125471
if you have an oligarchy, you dont have a monopoly by definition?
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
how old are you???
>>125474
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
you realize you can have the OIL oligarch, hte MEDCINE oligarch, the AUTO oligarch
>>125476
nibble
i just think that - if you look at the global market in most areas - you find that oligopolies arise more often than monopolies, and i dont think its because of regulatory action

and theres no need to be mean
>>125479
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
and btw nonners im sry I didnt reply 2 u its jsut hard when there is a lot of conversation going on i get distracted by too many posts easily
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125477
'oligopolies' are monopolies, because they can collaborate to control a market. a perfect example is telecommunications companies in the US, which drew non competition zones in cities so that they each could individually have a monopoly in their designated area.
>>125480
nibble
>>125479
this much i do remember from economics class. i do think that you can still influence a single company though, even if these companies cooperate – which isnt necessarily a bad thing. they are still independent players on the market
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
okay but what if instead we passed laws that made it so no company could be a certain size so there were doznes of companies all competing to offer the best product for the price isntead of 3 with the power to achieve total regulatory and economic capture and have a competition value of 0
>>125482
nibble
>>125481
i think that once a state has that power, you very quickly end up with a monopoly as well – a state monopoly
nibble
maybe not immediately, but states tend to grow
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
image.png
this is objectively not true. you can see that the united states greatest periods of economic growth are tired directly to direct government regulation and investment
>>125485
nibble
>>125484
the us is actually a great example of this, because the us state has massively grown in the last 30 years as far as im aware
>>125487
nibble
and it mostly brought misery for everyone
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125485
its literally the opposite. all government entities that are meant to prevent monopolization and regulatory capture have been obliterated. the US is by far the MOST unregulated it EVER has been. Especially under trump now, he is actively DESTROYING the DOJ and any entity that regulates economic exchange. So just pay attention to when the bubble pops and the overvalued us ecomomy collapses in itself (it will look exactly like the chart does at 2009) and the thing that prevents total free fall collapse is government intervention
>>125493
nibble
again, ill take your word for it. im not american nor an economist so idk
nibble
this is why i usually dont say my opinion on things, this endless arguing is so tiresome lol
nibble
>>125487
all im saying that we have plenty of government regulation where i am and that just brings its own bag of dicks
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
sry i enjoy talking about it hehe
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
not trying to be tiresome lol
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
image.png
Are you tracking what Argentina is currently going through? They have a full alt right anti government regulation government now and look what is happening to growth in the country.
The years where its going up is when the socialist regulatory style party was in power. Whent hey were deposed is when the number goes down.
>>125497>>125527
nibble
>>125496
conventional wisdom says protected economy for underdeveloped / growing economies (argentina) and less regulated economies for richer countries

i agree that milei is a retard
nibble
idk sadchan pretty much half of my country had a socialist economy until like 40 years ago and it was a massive dumpster fire
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
i dont want to keep going if u find this tedious btw hehe
>>125501
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
well it is called pol on the website name lol :P
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
this is WHY WE SHOULD CHANGE IT TO MELONBURGER.ORG
shrimp
honestly i am a fan of melonburger.org
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
im gonna go commision an artist for a mascot right now
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
she will mog the crunchyroll girl
nibble
its only just begun
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
wtf
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
i meant to say WE ARE SO BACK
nibble
yes i am si vacj
nonners
>>125496
what is this graph supposed to show lol the numbers are completely irregular throughout the whole thing, also the number starts going down after 2021, wasnt milei elected in 23?
nibble
.play nickelback look at this graph
nibble
.skip (video skipped)
nibble
.play look at this graph
nonners
also what if i make a graph that says the opposite of your graph, does that mean i debunked you?
>>125533>>125535
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
LOOK AT DIS GRAPHHHH
nibble
chat i need to get up at 6:00am again 2morrow ;_;
>>125536
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
>>125533
>>125531
yes then I just go DEBOOOOOOOOOOOOONKED and post a bunch of memes depicting me as the chad and you as the soi :3
anon
that's why im the coolest
krissu 👹
.play bladee bad girls
krissu 👹
ya i had to give it up cuz i was developing a dependence on it
>>125548
krissu 👹
ya great way to drain ur wallet and make u into a lazy bum lol
nibble
true. 30$/habit and it played a good role in sending me to the nuthouse methinks
krissu 👹
fuck if i was some rich celeb tho id be smoking so much, get like one of those stupid big bongs with like a dozen percolators and shit, one of those stupid expensive vaporizers
krissu 👹
theres one i saw where the little cup that u put the weed in is like 16 carat gold lol
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP
>>125556
krissu 👹
omg hes so cute with his burberry fit
nibble
can you actually pick any major you want with that?
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
i dont even have to have a major. also all my living expenses r paid 4 too as long as I dont fail. and I can use it for any program, like I could use it for trade schools, coding bootcamps or like a masters or doctorate program
krissu 👹
bladee is babygirl
SadChan(vote for melonburger.org)🍉🍉🍉🍉
i feel left out for not really fucking w/ bladee when im a tranny :<
nibble
>>125564
no actually if i had a druggie bf id be dead in like 2 years

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