fujo did you ever got arrested??

>>134232
embedded is fun though

guten morgen glegchens

>>134239
idk im so tired of programming. i used to do it in my free time all the time when i started

>>134239
>>134242
...but i dont write a single line of code privately anymore. ive grown to hate it, embedded or or otherwise

>>134247
thats something unimaginable to me

>>134252
ive been focusing on learning maths, thats why im getting my bachelors in engineering rn. i would love to be an academic, although i dont think thats in the cards for me

>>134252
i tried doing this but it led to me writing code

>>134247
try hacking

most programming is kind of boring and unless you have programming as a load-bearing trait in yourself you could probably just leave behind doing it

either that or get into a more fun subfield

>>134258
i AM leaving it behind. engineering is much cooler anyway

>>134255
writing the haskell implementation?

>>134262
rust; i'm too stupid for a real functional language

although one of my friends is implementing some big functional pl with an effect system etc and is going to be trying to force me to write a wayland compositor

>>134266
i used to like fp too, it was my first exposure to modern algebra

>>134265
is that big ben in the background

>>134267
this is also how i know all of the abstract math ive been exposed to lmao

i have this whole concept for a desktop app framework using functional reactive programming stuck in my head and i keep not going and doing the hard work to make it real

>>134270
elaborate

desktop framework in haskell

>>134269
idk i learned a bunch of college-level math at vocational school later, but im only really starting to gitgud right now because of my degree. my math prof is so cool...

>>134271
using gtk and qt sucks balls. i want something that takes the nice parts of like, vue 3, except not in js because i HATE js

>>134275
it just werks bro

>>134277
unironically yes

all you need is a tape and a head

sorry but writing a ui imperatively is actual dogshit

and im not wanting to rerender every frame when i could save user battery significantly AND have a much nicer time programming

like why would i want to have to keep the state of the whole program in my head like that

>>134287
because now you can run your program on a 386

i dont use a 386 so i dont really care

zzz

zzz

>>134283
writing anything like that in haskell makes you want to tear your eyes out, im good thanke

a 386 is still kinda overkill

if i had no care for perf i would just use electron >>134290

>>134295
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>134295
this, electron is good actually

anyways modern desktop app programming would have been saved if the guy who made elm didnt decide to make it exclusively render to js

>>134299
its not because of electron, its because the people who write electron apps are dumb. but binary size is an issue

>>134298
if he just didnt use chromium as a backend*

>>134300
sorry but shipping a whole chromium executable is kind of bad lol

like obviously ur gonna have some sort of runtime but chrome is HEAVY

>>134303
agreed. there are lighter alternatives to electron though

and no matter what, js fucking blows

>>134307
what if i want to run my app on 50 different architectures

>>134306
im not really a fan of tauri type stuff anyways

>>134313
BUT I NEED THE ABSTRCTION

>>134311
no, i quite like these sort of things. web is just nice for building ui. theres uhh, god i forgot what its called, for golang, which i liked pretty well

>>134316
its harder though

>>134309
the only way to actually do this is c and writing c is like swallowing nails

>>134315
web is 100% the best thing we have rn for ui i have to agree

>>134320
is this guy serious?

name one better way to make a ui

>>134322
its true

ugly

not a ui

no interactivity

>>134323
write to a memory address

>>134325
>not even curses

i thought glegs would have any sort of brain cells regarding what makes software nice to use.... truly tragic

i like how this website is basically just /g/ for the gays

>>134329
jk but html is truly the best thing for uis

>>134333
kind of ideal

i would do many things to undo the damage that 2014~2016 did to imageboard culture

>>134335
you can thank microsoft for that

>>134342
its true. but unix philosophy was best, im sorry

2005 desktop software looked shit

i think like 99% of the reason that desktop apps suck rn is because electron is the only way to make a normal person cross platform ui

also le kapitalismus ruined le everything

>>134347
i dont know anything about the nt kernel, but windows just doesnt even allow unix philosophy because of their autistic normie focus on ui

this falls under le kapitalismus to me but its also like... i dont necessarily blame a lot of devs for not liking to deal with the terrifying underbelly of libc

>>134351
>everything wrong is le capitalism

>>134353
what windows supports unix syscalls?????

sure same sort of issue

i guess my problem is that writing things in c sucks

>>134353
see >>134354

>>134352
chad yes image btw

>>134359
windows has never been posix compliant what are you talking about

at minimum the incentive structures we have are not good for the software landscape

>>134363
i think shes talking about the abstraction the kernel offers

microsoft could implement all types of syscalls

>>134365
okay but then why is eg unistd.h not supported by windows c compiler? i am confused

[Wikipedia]

the posix subsystem is mostly bc of us gov regulation tho

>>134372
you cant, its a different lib, i think its called win32.h

>>134362
schizo

>>134378
yes thats crossplatform but many things on windows are different than on linux and osx. its actually a complete clusterfuck. i dont know how it works on the level of the kernel so ill take your word for it

unfortunately not

oh, i'm on windows 10

girls are making fun of me online for my bad font rendering

>>134381
posix was good actually, microsoft killed it

starts peeing und so weiter

>>134388
surely it cant be that bad

>>134390
>und so weiter
hi slavoj

>>134393
i genuinely dont know if thats true.

>>134396
well yes but this design philosophy is literally microsofts fault, we should write better smaller software and many people still do

>>134393
why not

im not necessarily a posix defender or whatever but i just dont really see why

i ran 9front in a vm for a little bit and it was cute but i cant imagine actually using it

>>134401
if you use plan9 you desperately need to take a shower, im sorry

>>134391
windows 10 is genuinely the best desktop experience. i like macos better but im forced to use windows

i have a better desktop experience on linux mint and i dont even like linux mint

>>134406
i see...

i mean, i guess the answer here is "posix didn't go far enough"?

although i think it really needs a whole different permission model

>>134413
posix just got fucked because microsoft took over the market

i dont like users/groups as the base abstraction of auth/permissions/etc

>>134414
nix solves this :^)

>>134419
>registry for linux

i actually recently had a very funny situation where docker was not creating a reproducible environment but nix was

i really dont like nix as it is that much but its the least-bad thing we have

ANYWAY COMPUTERS SUCK AND YOU NEED TO GO OUTSIDE

i daily drive nixos on my laptop and i use that for almost everything

the only reason im on windows rn is because im in my apartment lol

>>134428
#this

>>134430
yeah

that same prof i was talking about earlier told another student in my class to 'take his meds' (could also be translated as 'take your pills') today

>>134432
oh im just fending off the fujo accusation of "well, you aren't on it rn..." or something like that

for my specific use case linux sucks less than windows

i think for most people linux would suck a lot more than windows lol

>>134435
oh yeah, i hit that with vscode

i honestly just dont use a lot of different software and vscode is by far the one most annoying thing this happens with

but i dont necessarily need to edit vscode config a lot so i just kind of cope with it

>>134439
would be fixed if the desktop experience was better

>>134439
>>134448
macos is the sweet spot honestly

if i really wanted i could just make it an fhs thing and handle it myself but i like the theoretical ideal of not having to re-set up my computer if i explode it

>>134451
right

it's not really it's fault that it's duct tape, most applications will never have even one developer that cares about nix

>>134451
>my t470 doesnt support windows 11
built a new pc because of this too

>>134439
even though 2 billion phones use linux

i do think it is like, a bit abysmal for say, an average user, but i'm not an average user, i'm an autistic transsexual who likes my gay little config files

>>134457
thats a good point, i think if desktop experience on linux was as normie friendly as on android, it could be an option

i ran arch for a while but i also forget to `pacman -Syu` enough and then discord borks while im in lecture :p

also my DE kept exploding bc im gay and run like, hyprland and ironbar and whatever

>>134462
i ran arch as my daily driver for 2 years and the most dangerous thing are those manual fixes that are required like TWICE A YEAR

>>134459
too bad linux doesnt have a big company developing a distro

redhat doesnt count

its not a big company

its not like google

nix is nice insofar as i can assure myself that my computer will not explode on me lol

vaxry is so fucking stupid lmfao

i hate that guy

i like animations and swayfx is odd

>>134475
whats vavavax

>>134481
dev of hyprland

>>134482
whats hyprland

wayland compositor with nice animations etc

ahh ok ic

>>134473
how are nix packages even verified

do they get signed

verified as in like, the output is the same?

>>134485
new pulseaudio?

>>134489
verified as in like pacman

i mean, they have a git repo where you eventually get contributor access and until then u have to sit in pr hell

one of my friends has an ibus fix that has been sitting unreviewed for 6 months

i never understood foss people who contribute to other peoples repos

>>134483
this is understandable

i like pretending im running a real operating system that hires designers

>working for free

>>134495
t. most selfish person ever

>>134500
i might actually be yes

>>134498
>i never understood grocery shoppers who put back the cart
>>working for free

>>134498
if you write a patch for something opensource why wouldnt you share it

>>134503
kek. i always put back the cart, theres a euro in there

yeah ok cartcuck

you just love working for free for the store :^)

>>134504
isnt that what fuschia was for?

>>134509
again i want my euro

(american hat)

aldi i think actually has you put in a quarter here

>>134512
although i will say 1 euro for a cart is pretty good now that you mention it

>>134513
is this not normal in the us?

no, aldi is the only place that does it

as far as i know anyways

>>134517
huh. its like this at every grocery chain here. were taking over

okay wait am i like surrounded by germans on this website

>>134520
ja!

>>134522
wtf...

my wife is probably going off to study abroad in germany soon im gonna miss her

>>134524
germant is extremelt gay, i think ww2 was just repper rage

i cant really afford to do that although i think im gonna visit her

>>134525
>wife

wow

well, not _really_ married...

waow

but yknow

>>134531
a colloquial wife ic

i like boys too!

>>134535
transbian website

sometimes

>>134536
hey i like MEN too

and i have he/him in the bio, it's impossible for me to be a transbian

WHAT

>>134540
im a transbian of the soul

i would like to think i dont count as a transbian due to internalized cringephobia but i also have a lot of respect for like, the puppygirl transbian types

>>134545
#halt

>>134545
NO

>>134548
i think the medical term is zoophile

im amazonian

>>134541
wait, enlightened as in..?

oh speaking of my wife she says hi to you all

she said "say hi to the glegles for me"

>>134557
on what grounds

#ai who is glegle

glegle is a friendly, nonspecific nonbinary animal character. they're known for being positive, approachable, and cute. their vibe often resonates with people who enjoy lighthearted, inclusive energy. who is glegle

>>134559
this is a lie

>>134558
tell your wife that glegle says hi back

#GLEGLE

all caps glegle has a different energy

HIIIIIII

>>134566
nonspecific nonbinary ANIMAL

HIIIIIIIHIIIIIIIHIIIIIIIHIIIIIIIHIIIIIIIHIIIIIIIHIIIIIIIHIIIIIIIHIIIIIIIHIIIIIIIHIIIIIIIHIIIIIIIHIIIIIIIv

HELLO ANONYMOUS

>>134578
great contribution to the human cultural project A+

>>134579
ok zoophile

>>134584
okok fsir point neither am i. im actually a monkeee

>>134562
wrong!

>>134587
i cant believe it

>>134576
she liked this one

hey glegles - iris

>>134588
#slap

i dont really know how to refer to users of this website

i still call everyone worms

calling it <libpol> is ... it feels like im on reddit

no were libtards

>>134595
'retards'