>>139702
so like a monk who dedicated their life to service of the poor for basically no recognition and at the expense of their own living conditions?

>>139703
well yes for example

>>139704
because the happiness they get from doing that thing from a belief that it will get them into the kingdom of heaven outweighs the sadness from living in poverty

>>139705
hmm i dont think religious people are supposed to do good things because it'll get them into heaven, they're supposed to do good things to glorify god or something

yeah and their belief that theyre glorifying god while doing those things is loading them up on a bunch of reinforcing positive neurotransmitters

fair. but you've changed the goalpost so far at this point that we've essentially switched positions lol

I dont think i have ?? wdym

Your argument is that society isnt altrustic. I think it is altruistic because it is materially cooperative. you say that's not the same thing, because some people do altruism for nonmaterial purposes. i say every purpose is material, there is only material.

>>139710
you've basically argued that altruism is the same thing then looking after your own rational self-interest, and it just happens to have a good effect on someone else. if THATS you're definition of altruism, then i agree. it's just a very very bad definition of altruism

well i think you're missing the part that my fundemental belief is that altruism is hard wired into us because it is basically our single biggest survival strategy and the reason we as a species rule the world

>>139714
what do you mean

>>139712
proof?

i dont understand how thats not like. self proven

How do you think technology exists without specialization, how does specialization exist without cooperation

what do you even mean by altruism at this point

altruism is taking actions that dont materially benefit yourself as much as others before you consider ur brain telling u to be happy about jt

why should you, as a farmer, give food to anyone else?

so according to you, if I build a real-estate empire, and gift you a house because doing that will severely disadvantage the competition, I am being an altruist

A non altrustic animal will see a big pile of food, too big to eat on its own, and eat as much as possible and hide the rest even if itll go bad before it can eat the rest because any sharing is just helping the competition. an altrustic animal will go get other animals of the same species, usually the same individual family, and share that food because they hope that the other members of that group will do the same for them and their overall fitness will be improved

>>139719
because you need idk everything else?

>>139722
yes because of altruism

altruism is working together instead of competing

>>139723
lmao

>>139724
thats cooperation actually

what is altruism to u then

>>139727
something that's just not motivated by your own self-interest at all, with maybe the exception of feeling good

that doesnt exist

Why is feeling good an exception thats how weve evolved to incentivise that behavior

i dotn care about the subjective feeling as much as the action

>>139730
again -- not necessarily, you keep claiming this

also please answer >>139720

>>139720
i dont understand this at all

what competition

my competition on the real estate market

>>139736
that is not a real thing idk what to tell you

LMAO what?

I get a strategic advantage over another real estate company by gifting you a house -- does this make me an altruist

thats not what competition is in terms of evolution

what does that have to do with reproduction

>>139740
what this analogy is so far gone

>>139743
in what way is it far gone?

in what way is it connected at all to what we are talking about

im not trying to be rude i genuinely dont understand

I am acting out of my self-interest, but it has an "altruistic" (nice) effect on you - does that make me an altruist

i think we are using the word very differently im reallt not concerned if *a* person is an altrusit at all, I'm concerned with if our species is altruistic as a survival strategy, which we objectively are

a person is part of our specicies

we share resources instead of competing for them

don't dodge the question though, please. does that make me an altruist or those it not

i dont care if a single person is an altruist or not thats not what im talking about

>>139753
it's not about the person, it's about the action. if I gift you a house out of my own self-interest, am i altruist. because if it doesn't, then cooperation during survival (while exchanging good and services) is not altruistic

>>139752
i genuinely dont understand how this relates and i dont care if it makes you an altruist or not this is getting really far into the semantic weeds

we are very poorly adapted to survive as solitary individuals but when cooperating as a group we are the dominant complex organism on earth

"i don't care " is not a very good argument, i am not convinced

>>139757
im not trying to make any argument about whether or jot a hypothetical real estate agent is an "altruist" because using it to describe the personality of an individual is a very different thing from using it to describe the survival strategy of a species like ???

>>139758
okay then let's use the example you mentioned above: if I am a farmer and give you food so that I can buy idk electricity, am i an altruist

this is ridiculous

>>139760
in what way

the fundamental principle of our survival is rational self-interest, not altruism

>>139763
not necessarily, from where does that follow

>>139761
because if you werent an altruist youd come kill me for my electricity if it were a tangible resource

>>139762
not compared to other animals.

name one animal that cooperates with its own entire species one one-hundredth as much as humans

>>139765
ants

>>139766
no they kill other ant colonies of the same species basically on sight

>>139767
so do humans

>>139768
no we specifically set up a bunch of international laws not to do that and its a huge fucking deal when anybody does.

>>139769
it's working great

>>139770
better than ants yeah.

now I fail to see what this has to do with the point

if an ant colony bumps up against another one they will fight as a rule.

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No matter what.

If a human city bumps up against another human city, 99.999999999% of the time they start fucking trading instead

I think cooperation is necessary for survival, but that cooperation just doesn't come from altruism (whatever that means to you), it comes from self-interest

that is altruism

>>139777
cooperation and altruism are basically interchangable when u talk about evolutionary biology and thats what we are talking about

>>139779
that's what YOU are talking about. I am coming at this from more of an economic sense. but i don't think we even disagree too much on this, it seems to come down to definitions.

this is a semantic argument

>>139780
economics is fake

>>139777
there isnt a single biological organism to exist that isn't exclusively self interested that is what evolution guarantees

>>139783
>t. scientiscm fag

>economics is better than science
if thats the hill you want to die on then lole

>>139784
again, I agree

>>139786
better, worse... it's different.

have a nice night.

it's afternoon tho

seethe lol

i on the other hand hope you have a nice day. because i am your friend. and i love you. like a sibling

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how does he do it

no idea

a true master at what he does

very rare in this day and age

thats me

>>139826
#kiss gm sis

booger

>>139834
i actually havent played wt in months... i been playing wow

and terraria

>>139841
booger

im listening

>>139840
replacing one drug for another...

but is it good...

ig ill try it out

might get some good seeding from it too since it fl

yes im poor

what are you saying

also the song was good

yes because im poor

???

oh sweet

thanks for the money

then why do i have a transfer in my bank saying its from booker

for $55000

>>139872
why dont u like kaos

>>139674
I think a lot of cooperation is genetically /memetically advantageous but not actually good for the current organism. having kids shortens the life span but humans are driven to do it for instance

it’s good to recognize people aren’t just ‘good’ but people try to frame things as ‘self interest’ and it falls apart

>>139684
yeh I like this and then we just make ourselves feel good enough after doing it we keep the belief up and the world is happy!

im ambivalent

id say just do the best you can to be who you want

kinda ya

id lean towards pretty

exactly my thought

sus

glegle is telepathic and using their powers

yippee

>>139884
<3
truth

:0

ur like my dark version

that would be so cool if we dressed in opposite color outfits and had an epic sword fight with big music

#ai is clueful a word

yes, clueful is a word. it means being knowledgeable or well-informed about something. it's the opposite of clueless. pretty handy when you're trying to describe someone who's got their wits about them, right? is clueful a word

>>139884
how do you figure out how you want to be though...

>>139965
#editai change how to who

>>139965
experiences and introspection ig

vibes

sad...

>>139967
i have looked inside myself and found nothing

>>139973
muder doesnt pay it seems

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>>139977
we should go back to monke. female monke if you prefer, i couldnt care less

.play beatles its ok to leave your dog in a hot car

.play defiant jazz

.play shakey jakey

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goddamn

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why did the beatles weat suits arent they supposed to be rebels or something

coke/pepsi etc taste horrible if you think about it, its just that everyone pretends it good and everyone goes along with it

its sugar water and it tastes like sugar water

no it doesnt

it tastes horrible, i love it

yes it does

go and drink sugar water then

i often do

>does

>doesnt

>>139999
#check (checked) em

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>>140006
#give

#smartai how likely is it to develop cancer under the age of 30, considering 10 years of smoking and drinking

The likelihood of developing cancer under the age of 30, even after 10 years of smoking and drinking, is relatively low compared to older age groups. However, it is not negligible, as both smoking and alcohol consumption are well-established risk factors for various types of cancer. The risk depends on several variables, including genetic predisposition, intensity and duration of exposure to carcinogens (e.g., number of cigarettes smoked per day or amount of alcohol consumed), overall health status, and environmental factors.

### Smoking:
Cigarette smoke contains over 7,000 chemicals, at least 70 of which are known carcinogens. Smoking is the leading cause of lung cancer but is also strongly associated with cancers of the mouth, throat (pharynx and larynx), esophagus, pancreas, bladder, kidney, liver stomach cervix colon rectum etc Even in younger individuals prolonged exposure increases cellular mutations that can lead to malignant transformation While most smoking related cancers manifest later in life due cumulative damage there have been documented cases among young adults particularly those who started early

### Alcohol:
Alcohol consumption metabolizes into acetaldehyde a toxic compound that damages DNA proteins lipids increasing susceptibility malignancies Chronic heavy drinking significantly raises risks oral cavity pharyngeal esophageal breast colorectal liver cancers Synergistic effects between tobacco use exacerbate these dangers For example combined smokers drinkers face much higher odds developing head neck squamous cell carcinomas than either habit alone

### Statistical Context:
According American Cancer Society approximately % diagnosed patients fall below years old Nonetheless certain aggressive forms like leukemia lymphoma testicular melanoma thyroid more prevalent this demographic Lifestyle choices such excessive intake accelerate onset precancerous conditions Moreover epigenetic changes induced substances may prime body future disease decades down line

In conclusion while absolute probability remains modest relative peers abstaining harmful behaviors undeniable fact engaging activities heightens vulnerability Especially concerning given longer latency periods typically required tumors form grow detectable levels Therefore minimizing cessation critical reducing personal burden morbidity mortality associated preventable illnesses how likely is it to develop cancer under the age of 30, considering 10 years of smoking and drinking

damn

>>140008
>According American Cancer Society approximately % diagnosed patients fall below years old
so useful

#smartai how can i tell if i have a limited ability for empathy

Determining whether you have a limited capacity for empathy requires introspection and an understanding of what empathy entails. Empathy is the ability to understand and share the feelings, perspectives, and emotional states of others. It involves both cognitive empathy (understanding another's mental state) and affective empathy (experiencing an emotional response to another's emotions). If you suspect your empathetic abilities are constrained, consider the following indicators:

1. **Difficulty Recognizing Emotions in Others**: If you struggle to identify or interpret facial expressions, body language, or tone of voice—key components of emotional cues—this may suggest challenges in cognitive empathy.

2. **Lack of Emotional Resonance**: Affective empathy involves feeling moved by others' emotions. If you rarely experience sadness when someone else is grieving or joy when they celebrate success, this could indicate a deficit in affective empathy.

3. **Challenges with Perspective-Taking**: Cognitive empathy requires imagining yourself in someone else’s situation ("theory of mind"). If you find it hard to see things from another person’s viewpoint or dismiss their experiences as irrelevant, this may reflect limited perspective-taking skills.

4. **Indifference to Others' Suffering**: A lack of concern for others' pain or distress might signal reduced empathetic engagement. This could manifest as apathy toward social issues or difficulty offering comfort during crises.

5. **Overwhelming Focus on Self-Interest**: While self-interest is natural, consistently prioritizing your needs over others', even in situations where compassion would be expected, may suggest underdeveloped empathetic capacities.

6. **Feedback from Others**: People around you might notice patterns before you do. Repeated comments about being "cold," "distant," or "insensitive" could hint at perceived limitations in your empathetic responses.

7.**Difficulty Maintaining Relationships** : Empathy fosters connection; its absence can strain relationships if partners feel misunderstood emotionally ignored .

8 .**Low Scores On Empathy Assessments** : Psychometric tools like Interpersonal Reactivity Index(IRI ) measure different facets including Fantasy Scale(Perspective Taking),Empathic Concern etcetera scoring lower than average here provides objective evidence regarding one’s level

It important note that having some these traits does not necessarily mean pathological condition nor should stigmatize individuals who exhibit them Many factors influence development including genetics upbringing environment trauma neurodivergence such autism spectrum disorder(ASD) certain personality disorders also associated reduced levels

If concerned seeking professional evaluation psychologist psychiatrist provide clarity guidance tailored interventions improve enhance overall well-being interpersonal dynamics Remember everyone capable growth change cultivating greater awareness intentional practice foster deeper connections those around us how can i tell if i have a limited ability for empathy

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>>140044
i already let you get away with copyright infringement by having letters in your name, dont make me take action is all im saying

>>140057
yuh huh

.play tears from the compound eye

i fucking hate my parents i hope they die

>>140063
no accounting for taste

>>140065
there was never a need

just realized i have so much stone on my territory and i can just keep exporting it to my neighbors forever, and they pay very well too

i basically get unlimited money and hookers

songs of syx

stone empire

>>140061
#slap

right now might be the perfect time for me to disappear

>>140076
im far enough away from my family and i dont have any connections in this city, i could just get on a plane tomorrow and be gone forever

>>140078
yummmmm

i wish real life couldpizza farm

you should

burger pizza

>>140074
omg u called me a hag <3

>>140087
traditional american delicacy

>>140074
avowed is taking so long to instal...

good morning

i hung out with people irl for like a week straight and now my social battery is completely fried

>>140093
just 70gb installed

>>140095
r u enjoying it