how is everyone doing? :3

im good i did some workk i was procrastinating on hehe

>>196066
im really sry to hear that i didnt read this :(

living closeted is terrifying

#hug

I know you will make it you will grow up and have ur own home and be able to be urself

>>196100
what if your dad beats your ass or kilsl you? :(

my dad beat me up and kicked me out

>>196103
>>196104
#hug

my dad was narccissitic and pretty abusive (he didnt really hit me until I was an adult and started just doing actual violence) and I couldnt admit that until I was in my mid 20s lol. idk its really hard to criticize your parents, especially if you spent your entire life internalizing "Im bad. Everything is my fault. I ruin everything. I should kill myself because I ruined my parents life for being born." it took me a long time to work through that its not my fault as a child my family was dysfunctonal.

One way I realized it was a friend told me "if it was some other kid, and you had the same story told to you, would you blame the kid?" and I was like

Oh...

i like, hero worshipped my dad

i literally thought he was like the most moral, strongest, best person in the world bar none until I was probably 16 lol. I thought he was mean but a good person fundamentally.

>>196113
I didnt tell him I was trans until after he started getting handsy with me

I knew I was trans at like 9, 10 years old and I told him and he said "when you are a kid you think wierd things. when I was a kid I had a wet dream about fucking a hippo. how many hippos have I fucked? stuff is just wierd at that age I wouldnt worry about it" and I brought it up a few times and it was dismissed. he didnt think i was trans or gay, just a gross nerd.

>>196118
i doubt its any more common than trans mothers tbh. sure women are less transphobic statistically but my gut feeling base on divine guidance and KNOWING, my INTUITION tells me that if you have a baby you are self selecting into a population that is much more transphobic.

source I MADE IT THE FUCK UP

>>196122
i like boromir but im not watching this heheh lol

too long and im procrastinating my essay hehe

yea its my base

eggs

i have a town 2 feed

I ran out of eggs and I need more cake

>>196147
>>196145
yeaa come over we can make edamame pasta with any sauce u want

vodka, alfredo, marinara, spinach, pesto

>>196152
>>196151
he he its not alcoholic its just a sauce

vodka sauce

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I love Tama

>>196189
italians pushing back against thier hyper racist country super based

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>>196202
as an italian, ive never met a nation thats more racist than italy

italians are so racist that if you arent from literally their city you arent "really italian"

if you are siciallian someone from naples will tell you "not italian", if you are from rome they will tell the neopolitan not italian, and if you are from Torino gtfo they hate EVERYONE

well this is more europeans in general, but I hate how people will tell americans they arent "italian" even though its their ethnic heritage. like they just dont get how americans keep aspects of their origin countries down the generations, like to an italian-american... Im italian. not from italy, i dont speak italian but its still part of my ancestry and culture.

>>196224
:D

yipee!

there are lots of chilean people in america who werent born in chile but still speak spanish at home and make the food and visit chile for their extended family. like their BLOOD is chilean, their family is chilean.

>>196229
yea but in america, you are chilean is what I mean. we arent a monoculture like, in the parts that arent white apocalyptic shitholes like Arkansas, america is extremely diverse and we keep that heritage alive.

>>196233
is it literally just you cant seperate the american concept of identifying with heritage from claiming to actually be something?

like I dont claim to be an italian citizen. i dont claim to speak italian. but my grandparents did and that heritage is passed down.

maybe heritage is just a uniquely american concept.

#ai define what heritage means to an American

heritage to an american usually means pride in where they or their ancestors came from—traditions, history, culture, language, or even shared struggles. could be irish-american celebrating st. patrick’s, african-american honoring juneteenth, or native tribes preserving their ways. sometimes it’s about family roots, other times national identity, like calling yourself a proud 4th of july patriot. for some, it's complicated—lived heritage vs stories passed down. for others, it's reclaiming what was lost. no single definition fits everyone. define what heritage means to an American

>>196239
seems wierd to gatekeep ur ethnicity from people who are literally genetically and culturally linked to you, not you specifically but like eveyrone in the world who balks at the american concept of heritage

>>196242
>but to a cultural level that kid will literally not understand and will be unfamiliar with the culture
oh for suree but I think thats missing the idea of american heritage. i never really thought about it. also i just want 2 be clear when I say "YOU" i dont just mean you I mean like all people of hte world who dont like that language.

I never really thought about the idea of Heritage being uniquely american because its so engrained in our culture. But I guess a chinese person in Chile after 2 or 3 generations wouldnt be considered chinese anymore there.

>>196246
yea I get this 100% its poser behavior.

>>196249
I dont think thats true. Its soup culture. Calling america cultureless is crazy when literally the entire planet knows who spiderman is.

>>196252
I think its more the other countries who get made when we keep our heritage part of our identity, which is a you problem xD

Like if I say oh Im Italian, and ESL italian person will be like UHHHH NO YOUR NOT which tbh is literally them
1. not understanding what heritage means to americans and
2. literally not understanding what 'being italian' beans in American English

>>196260
im curious, do u consider a chinese person in chile just chilean? or do you call them chinese.

>>196265
>>196265
>no other country has immigration like we do.
this 100%. no other country really understands what its like to have a different culture in EVERY household on the block.

>>196264
yea thats fair, just wondering... i think its also important to remmebr we are just talking about like... other people.

We are nice here no one is attacccc anyone else :)

>>196271
100% if you mix up wethere someone is puerto rican or dominican in NYC fr watch the fuck out ahahaha

Yea it was very productive hearing ur side of it Nadia

>>196276
Nah, its okay. Like, its just an American thing that I don't think a foreigner can really understand until you come here.

>>196280
well america had this whole thing called chattle slavery and the civil rights movement and we care A LOT about ethnicity now xD

like, either celebrating diversity and being as welcoming as possible or jsut the racistrs lol

>>196284
its not really like that. well it is in the case of specifically black americans because their communities are devestated by racist redlining and the follow on economic effects of slavery.

but in general heritage is something that is celebrated. people keep a deep personal connection to their home countries even if its superficial. you arent going to logic away our deep cultural ties to the hundreds of homelands we all originate from.

its just not something someone who isnt american can understand I think.

that said I 100% understand hating american posers who come to chilean being like "im chilean" and barely speaking the language and doing things that are socially awkward because they dont know the culture and stuff

>>196286
I mean didnt all the super brutal spanish plantation owners / genociders basically just interbreed with the natives to the point that you cant tell them apart anymore

>>196291
well they killed way more people I think idk. ive learned a lot about colonialism and I genuinely would think that spanish colonialism was hte most brutal of all the colonial empires except maybe belgium. belgium was crazy.

I think if you made a Evil Colonialism teir list Spain is number 1 - S rank

the population of indiginous peoples in south america is estimate to have declined by 90-95% by the 17th century. :O

>>196298
yea I was thinking this as I was looking it up like. I am genuinely interested by the natives were cut by 95% in both north and south america pretty much.

>>196300
yea thats america too tbh. but ive read accounts of the brutality of the plantation owners and its pretty sickening. its the same shit as happened in america but 200 years earlier and people just kind of get more violent and horrible the farther back in time u go.

the only thing that changes is the scale of destruction imo, idk maybe thats really ignorant

like genghis khan killed millions of people in a single week when he burned samarkhand to the ground that doesnt really compare to WWII where its like, a years long grind where there was at least an Attempt (TM) to treat POWs and captured civilians.

the empires of ages passed would have just executed everybody.

>>196306
I just wrote a paper about how Europeans genuinely had to construct a narrative of MORAL superiority over indiginous peoples to justify their genocide and colonialism.

the average european genuinely thought natives were lucky and should be grateful to labor for htem

ofc there were lots of people who pushed back against that

Like the tempest is allegorically a critique on europeans need to be morally superior to the stupid gross native person

thats why all the way up until the 1900s europeans and americans were still drawing black people as like evil rapey big lipped demons and such

you have to create an entire cultural narrative about how bad this group is so you dont feel bad when you do the most evil shit imaginable to them.

>>196317
is that like Las Casas and how he petitioned the spanish king to limit the landowners to enslave natives?

I really disagree but maybe we just learn different things in different countries. Ive read a few papers about spanish colonialism and it really seems like that doesnt happen until after centuries of genocide and exploitation and then there was a redefining of mixed native identities later

like the text Democrates alter, sive de iustis belli causis apud Indos is specifically calling all natives sodomites and rapists as justification for the landowners laws and why the New Laws of Las Casas were rejected by the king (also there was a sort of civil war when the crown tried to enforce it own the landowners)

>>196323
not sure if its a language miscommunic ation but we do consider that genocide in europe. the destruction of religion, language, cultural identity. the indios schools

i think it depends on ur definition of genocide but the brutal forced conversion to catholicism would be considered genocide today, and also it was an apartheid state because european spandiards had more rights in their legal system than latam born spaniards, evne if they had no native blood.

>>196329
yea maybe, I guess its more a caste system?

what does apartheid get defined as?

#ai define what an apartheid country is

an apartheid country is one where a dominant racial or ethnic group enforces systemic segregation and discrimination against other groups through laws and policies, denying them basic rights, political representation, and economic opportunities. historically, south africa's regime was the most notorious example, but the term might be used for any state maintaining similar oppressive structures. define what an apartheid country is

yeh i see i see

There were definitely big differences in how the british and french colonized north america and the spanish colonized south america i have some interesting papers pulled up. i think colonialism is just bad.

the spanish def did the same shit as the british and french though and created narratives of native barbarism and ugliness. that they were all godless rapey nasty creatures who deserve slvaery for being so horrible. they jsut responded in different ways.

I know in modern mexico that native peopels still have a huge problem with accessing political representation and the government almost never builds infrastructure in native areas because they just dont have any power in government so they are super disenfranchised in that country to this day. and its also an example of how there was cultural genocide, like how dia de los muertes and all saints day are aztec holidays that they created to convert the people to catholicism, they built churches on top of the aztec holy sites and temples that people would make pilgrimages too.

yea but that wasnt spain tho

I would just heavily caution revisionist history that paints your country in a more favorable light. The death toll was so incredibly massive and the spread of disease so powerful there is no way there werent entire cultures that were wiped out. There are people in america who distort history to make the genocide of natives in north america 'not that bad'.

>>196346
I kind of get it too. like for me I think there is an incentive to not believe my country and history are completely evil and there were lots of good things america did too.

I think americans, well left leaning americans, are extremely motivated to examine the horrors of the past and call colonialism out for what it is.

I also something that gets lost in history is all the people who spoke out against the genocides, slavery and such. Like people knew in 1500 that this shit was insanely evil and did it anyway. There was no "people just had different values then". Many people, especially relgious people, spoke out against slavery and genocide at the time. Abolitionism in america goes back to the very first years of the country in the 1700s. And those voices often get lost to history.

>>196351
no way. no way they didnt know. if they "thought they were doing their best" then they are literal animals who deserve total death.

There was a video I watched on liveleak that haunts me to this day of a bunch of guys in mexico city setting fire to a a chihuahua and laughing and cheering while it burns to deaht. its screams were horrible. it screamed for almost a minute and a half before it stopped moving. it was one of the most unambiguously evil things ive ever seen in my life.

people are evil. people are good. there are evil people in the world. I dont make excuses for evil anymore.

maya are extinct but their genes still exist in yucatan and oxaxaxaxaaxa

maya were pretty much extinct by the aztec tho

>>196357
I learned about them. they predate the incas by hundreds of years and had a unique pottery and tool culture in like 200AD or smth

I think they were mostly extinct by the time the incas rose to power before the spanish arrived

enslavement, wanton killing, destruction of the language and cultlure, banning of the religion, forced conversion, indian schools, mass forced remigration

>>196369
then the north american natives didnt get genocided because we still have all their languages and culture preserved today...

>>196372
it was older than the incas, it might not really have even been around except for one or two villages by the time of the spaniards, but I also think that there are probalby dozens of culutures that were completely exterminatedan d just like america it was only the biggest native nations that survived into the modern era (the sioux, the iriqois, the blackfoot, the mohawk etc as compared ot the aztec, the inca, the maya)

I think its a bit wierd but i dont want 2 press it and make anyone feel badd like nadia said it happend 500 years ago.

I think there might be an element of not wanting to be as bad as the british which is well tbh every country Ive talked to copes like that xD

its just wierd to not call it genocidee I think

its like if you said "Im 99% sure the holocaust happened"

why would you say 99%

what are you saying by leaving room for doubt lol

>>196381
yea I think at that point its just semantics like we all agree the spaniards were evil colonialists.

>>196387
>thnic cleansing
i dont think people usually make a big distinction between the word genocide and ethnic cleansing like

there is the UN stages of genocide or w/e

it still genocide if you do like what russia did in ukraine in the 1930-80s. ban speaking ukrainian, force the teaching of russian in schools, ban ukrainian cultural expression. you are extirpating the culture to make them russian. its a genocide, and that ban is usually enforced through indiscriminate violence.

u can also do a genocide by forced migration, which spain did too. moving tons of spanish indentured workers into these countries to take over and be a higher caste to the natives nad have htem interbreed and stuff and if they get spanish blood in them there is no longer a purely native population. (WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT FROM JUST NORMAL MIGRATION AND INTERBREEDING BEFORE ANY NAZIS APPEAR AND START TALKING ABOUT WHITE GENOCIDE I SWEAR 2 GOD)

well, I dont th ink the british or french were either

Like the british wanted to displace mostly not kill and often employed tribes in their wars and the french even gave citizenship to natives in a lot of their colonies

America kind of operates differently where its more like modern isreal where you have an incroaching of homesteaders and slowly pushing hte populations out and putting them in reservations and buildng walls around them

>>196399
you are never going to convince that the spanish didnt eradicate hundreds of small tribes in their conquest of the americas

>>196404
the thing that makes it really difficult was that the spanish expanded MUCH BIGGER AND FASTER than the british and french. the project of spanish colonialism was on a much huger scale than the way british people did it which was mor elike the portuguses feitorias. they british built city states in key areas and traded or farmed around them. the spanish did wholesale cultural replacement. the spanish project was much grander in scale and scope and happened about a hundred years before the british or french really got started in north america. so the spanish didnt really need to distinguish between all these tiny tribes because they are all just targets for extermination/conversion. like the incas themselves ruled over dozens of tribes we no longer know the names of. all we know is the incas and maybe 5 or 6 major cultural groups in this huge area. we dont know those tribes anymore and to the racist spanish they would all just be "Inka" and get thrown onto the hacienda, enslaved and forced to convert to following jesus or get tortured by the inquisition.

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