>>362383
this poll seems biased

>>362409
>yeah i read theory

>>362413
you mean hundreds of pages of responding to hegel didn't help

>>362421
>you aren't the right kind of poor person

>>362431
that's a way to get gout

hi cuties

>>362438
hi anon

>>362436
fiinland did this except homeless people and houses respectively

it worked basically perfectly, there are like <1000 homeless people in all of finland and they are not even living on the street, their definition of homelessness is like "someone who cant afford their next 2 rent payments"

>theres too many homeless ppl
<okay what if we build a fuckton of houses
>ok
and it worked perfectly, proving once again that the government of most countries would run BETTER under a literal 4 year old who just unlocked object permanance

>>362459
i mean yeah you need smart people to implement things but the decisions themselves are often the simplest and "duh, yeah" solutions actually work best

ftm housemate gave me T, i gave them fin.

>>362461
no but i've gave flowers

i met a cute person today i think they were ftm

>>362467
nah they just a homie, a great homie, but a homie you know?

:3 he was flirting with me a bit as he rang me up

>>362470
wait you ftm too but taking fin??

>>362475
nah i'm mtf, they gave me T so if I ever wanna microdose i can and I gave them fin so if they ever wanna keep their hairline they can.

>>362471
im just saying that "build more houses" is always gonna be a better solution than "provide economic incentives for them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and muh value economy and "

>>362452
::ezra_klein

hell yeah mohini based. my gf loves her. makes me happy that there's such a strong, popular virtuoso woman just killing it on bass at the moment. she legit says she makes her feel more confident and that makes me happy c:

>food is too expensive ppl are starving
<okay make food cheap
>ok
this one also wworks basically every time
saved rome from disaster basically every 3 fucking years
>crippling debt cycles
<cancel all debt
it is often THAT simple

>>362488
the fed owns a weirdly massive amount of urban land and they could put a provision in tomorrow to ignore local zoning stuff
You wouldnt even need to rearrange much literally just tear down a few dozen warehouses per major city and put in tennements and it would at least be a fucking start

>>362487
i want to live in finland now

>>362491
research zapatistias

basically mexican natives who demanded that at gunpoint and got it

bass is so cool

>>362493
>Basically, you'd need to have a fed that is willing to just cut through the BS and ignore proceduralism, which would have its own consequences
i just want to checkk rly quick. the current year for you is 2025 right? you arent in some weird timezone?

>>362496
yeah i mean i dont think theyre perfect i dont think anyone and especially any system is. But i think on the whole the zapatista resistance is based

>>362501
what the big flip

>>362500
do you think when we get a democratic pres in a cycle or two that those barriers and procedures are just going to rematerialize

i just mean fromm a historical perspective what society has had its governing roots ripped out like that and just bounced back and been like "nah jk" with no lasting consequences

and idk i think blue states win that hands tied behind their back

the second blue states stop paying taxes the federal govt collapsed

>>362519
i dont think even the most dedicated magatards are chomping at the bit to actually be conscripted though

I think its 100x more likely that the USA just loses all international prestige and becomes a weak vassal of EU or alternately china, than we actually have a civil war with the usa military involved

and again, i dont think they even have the most military bases

Most of our bases are coastal and most coastal states are very blue

>>362531
yeah our millitary has a really robust system yo protect against that ever since wwii
As a soldier you are personally culpable for doing soemthing unconstitutional even if you were just following orders

i don't think thats true i think the entire middle power structure is pretty robustly anti hegseth if not anti trump specifically

>>362537
no but i think plenty will and hey if you let that cat out of the bag everyone who refuses is suddenly not just a defector but an *enemy combatant*

their options are join new blue state leadership or stay around to make a point and get shot

>>362541
but i think that happening also implies a big faction of the military and certainly state govts. forming their own anti fed coalition

and the options are stick around and be court martialed or go fight for the other side

I think theyre stupid and ambitious vut i dont think they are *that* stupid or ambitious

And i think any conflict that drags out is in the hands of the blue states 9999 times out of 10000

Most of the deep red states literally cannot maintain homeostasis without huge federal aid checks that ultimately come from blue states

>>362549
based

>>362548
i think the rump dems are like 5% of the blue voterbase and every single senator etc i dont think thats actually a huge loss

Sorry every blue senator i mean

>>362561
yeah all the dem leadership would form the rump dem party. the actual voters have been fucking pissed at the leadership for doing nothing more and more every single year

yeah the usa is unironi a fucking disaster to try to hold with a land military against the populations will

im not even saying >le brits werent expecting the pioneers to be hiding in the trees

there's a bunch of inhabited places that are in fuckoff nowhere and still have infrastructure

a HUGE swatch of the populace dems and reps alike have guns

There are an uncountable number of private bunkers

like literally uncountable because most ppl who make a bunker do not apply for permits and get it registered bc that kinda defeats the purpose

>>362569
yeah and i mean look at our track record being the non-guerillas

It hasnt exactly gone well even in TINY extremely poor countries

if theres actual funding and organization with 1st world resources it's just intractible

alaska alone would be the worst quagmire in human history

theres like 8 guns per 1 population, half the population lives in the actual trees with no road access, and 4/5th of the population WILLINGLY goes and lives off the land several months a year oh yeah and it gets to like -30 if you go far enough north

ty worm

it would not be good or pretty but I think a full civil war in the US at this point would not work for the agressors it would go on forever

And i think no matter how ambitious and dumb the current leadership are, they still understand that

>>362604
civil war is one of their token issues its always been the justification for the 2nd ammendment i dont think they have ever intended to make good on it

2 is a good point yeah but I still just think there is a security in it all, that 51% of the country is blue and hates this shit and the idea of genuine large scale millitary supression is just unfeasable

I mean. there are weapons here that just

I mean you can buy a 50 cal sniper as a civilian

They're not even terribly uncommon

There's not rly another civil population like that in the world thats an actual weapon of war, short of bombing everywhere there's not a lot to do about that

are the feds gonna come after me for wanting to talk about how much i like my gf in here

>>362614
i mean yeah but their foriegn policy is pretty mucht he glue that holds that all together

Their entire thing is "we will survive even if the world is glassed" thats why i dont think their citizens would revolt like that in the first place

they have like 110% of their population's worth of bunker capacity in the swiss alps all armed with guns, not like handguns like AA guns and missiles

i needs to go to switzerland

sometimes i think damn, am i gonna have to sham marry a northern european to survive the next couple of decades. there's deffo a bunch of northern european men and women who'd have me, i'm well liked by them. but i want to be with my girlfriend, maybe we can both have sham marraiges and run away to the far north and then secretly see eachother behind our betrothed's backs

also switzerland has the natural upside of having fucking nothing of value except defensive positions in the swiss alps

lets dream up a scenario where someone does spend the 10,000x to take the swiss alps and grinds them over decades and decades and finally wins, what do they get, fucking nothing literal snow and rocks

Thats a huge benefit

nothing of value to take except in the lowlands and the lowlands are designed to cede if necessary

>>362629
#smooch

my mom probably hates that im a eunuch

good thing i haven't spoken to her in years

she was a huge Q anon head

everyone hates eunuchs because they are afraid of us. tale as old as time

>>362633
>>362636
my mom doesn't know im a eunuch and yeah we are pretty hated lol :( it's sad, and i think the political bs going on rn makes the hate worse for us

>>362638
glad they're still connected to the world, my mom's a full blown narcissist and everyone's kinda cut her out and she's cut everyone else who hasn't cut her out out. my dad is just a regular fascist. my mom's like a huge conspiracy head

>>362488
a lot of the clusterfuck of the usa is the phenomenon of redlining which is basically, how the streets and freeways and cities are planned around segregation

>>362643
authoritarian and racist yeah

>>362641
we love opworm

>>362644
one of those peoples whose butthurt about the whole ethnic white population decline paranoia?

>>362647
yeah, it's not just the white thing though it's like. he'll hate the polish too. it's not just the brown immigrants it's everyone who's not born and bred

i miss the obligate contrarianism of old 4chan. people on there used to be nazis just as a shock tactic, and just as often they'd say stalin was right or etc
then 2016 happened and it stopped being a fight the power thing and started being naziism for naziism's sake

>>362655
i dont disagree with you and i do think thats one of the most dangerous parts of fascism and i dont miss the naziism of old 4ch specifically, i just miss the unseriousness of it all

I want to say something but I think my connection is unironically too slow for the site now

>>362659
I think thats the dem's greatest failing in recent years
>oh a populist appears who runs on being anti institutionalist and anti-politician, who should we run against him. either we can do the deeply institutionalist wife of an old political family or we can have a left leaning populist who checks most of the same boxes as trump but also wants to do a little socialism, as a treat
>yeah lets do the wife

>>362655
hindsight is 20/20

>>362667
i remmeber seeing a greentext screenshot of /pol/ doing what the jews do and i didn't save it

>>362665
marget thatcher's grave was the first gender neutral bathroom in the Uk

>>362669
like i said, hindsight is 20/20

i unironically wouldn't have thought 4chan would go from nazis to trans takeover even 4 years ago

half my family is irish i have a deep personal loathing of that "person"

>>362675
most zoomers actually have no idea what it was like before america became polarized

>>362677
i was born in 1999 i barely barely remember it
this has been the reality for me for essentially all of my living memory
it does really shape my worldview and the worldview of my friends of the same age

im glad i didn't get on social media til i was in my 20s, i just whiled away my hours. i got a few more years of normalcy than most people my age

>>362678
i'm technically a zillenial but i can remember pre-smartphone, just not anything before bush

People in my gen either dissociate entirely from politics or become rabid extemists in talk but in practice just fatigued by the whole thing

>>362667
Considering how overprotectiveness of ethnic whiteness leads to abortion being banned, unjust deportations, and LGBT people being criminalized... I reallly really hope ethnic whiteness goes away in the near future, because it feels like overprotectiveness of the goal of amassing white babies is causing way too many problems

>>362684
BASED
world should become brown in as few generations as possible
t. probably the whitest person ever

>>362688
glad you understand anon the fetishization of white babies is causing way too many problems, it's also part of why so many of us are given shit for transitioning

>>362684
dw its gonna go away

>>362692
I'm relieved to hear that gray, how far off in the future do you think it will take to go away?

>>362693
yeah thats the other thing its literally, all morals aside, just the objectively scientifically correct thing to do for the health of the population

>>362694
a decade

The more varied your gene pool the more robust you are to like three quarters of all disease esp. in the modern world where external diseases are all extremely treatable

white supremacy will probably get replaced with a different type of racism or bigotry

i think there has to be a hard reset on shitting on command economies considering all of our data on their success comes from pre-computer examples

then again even places with lots of interacial mixing like latin america still have white supremacy, so i could be completely off

>>362703
i could see that happening

i'm on the side of the neofurries

but

i'm against the augmented

>>362708
im not for full collectivization but i do think a baseline, low quality but servicable, collectiviztion of all life essentials and free distribution would be an unambiguous benefit to humanity

>>362708
hold on let me get the meme

Its the exact same system, classes and muh bootstraps in tact, except at the very bottom rung instead of living on the street and eating trash, you are GUARANTEED a shitty apartment with lukewarm showers and like school lunch food. for free no matter what

>>362718
yeah it doesnt have to be literal collectivization

>>362721
I dont really care what its called im just an objectivist about worker health

morals shouldnt go into it

ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. stop fucking charging ppl for the ounce of prevention

Dead workers cant work and cant pay taxes

Life essentials cost fucking nothing compared to the rest of what our govt does

i wouldn't care if the government assigned me a job bc i get decision paralysis

>>362731
again idrc what its called :P

But like look at cuba
you know what they do, they just send doctors everywhere every year and go to peoples houses and give them free checkups and they spend like a penny to our $7 for the exact same medical outcomes

>>362738
the poverty of their nation cant reallt be used as an argument while there is a nearly worldwide trade embargo on them imo

>>362742
the us makes trade deals with other major trading economies to not trade with them and when they do to trade unfairly

i got an error in the middle of uploading nooo

it's effectively a worldwide embargo

Every time they run out of like CPAP machines or whatever they have to scramble to find some random country like laos to sell to them

>>362746
but do you unironi think cuba wouldnt be like twice as wealthy if the US didnt care about them

i wish the ussr was real

>>362751
i dont think cuba is perfect and im not arguing for any part of their system except preemptive medical care sponsored by the state as a baseline service for citizens