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anon
hmm
anon
different strokes for different folks how about that one nerds
davesprite
>>363446
>edit has then statements
waiting to discover some cursed way of implementing if then loops on this board
anon
>>363451
#edit "end" -> "erre" then "myself" -> "myfym"
anon
oh I remember when I started to get the AI to do weird shit on here ages ago
davesprite
invert bot had a stroke o noes
davesprite
how is patchouli spam preferable to homestuck spam anyway lol
davesprite
.play angel of music
faye
Q.E.D
anon
>>363469
#edit "lack of any knowledge at all" -> "laal of anna knowlowl at laal"
>>363473
davesprite
>>363469
fug i didn't see what it said
but perhaps
#invert
davesprite
14689.gif
THE WEBCOMIC IS OVERLFOWING WITH INFINITE WISDOM YES I AGREE
::HONK
>>363497
faye
>>363469
#edit (unknown error) empty delete all text thank you
davesprite
who tf queued up trapped in the closet lollll
davesprite
.play dick in a box
davesprite
.play i'm on a boat explicit version
davesprite
.play nwa fuck the police
davesprite
if anything i am queuing is annoying ppl feel free to lmk anytime btw
except homestuck or hazbin eheheheheheh
faye
hazbin hotel music is so boring and generic how can you enjoy it on its own
>>363490
davesprite
>>363489
it's not the most rhythmically innovative (poison kinda slaps hard tho as do 1 or 2 others) but it's got solid composition and reaaaaaally good voice work and also great lyrics
it's extremely fun to sing along to
>>363493
davesprite
like if i've queued up happy day in hell or poison you can all just know dave is over here singing all the words
davesprite
faye how do you feel about this
.play hamilton what did i miss
davesprite
>>363499
do you like any showtunes or is that the issue here
davesprite
if you just don't like the broadwayshit i can respect that even though i love it
>>363503
davesprite
what about
.play wicked defying gravity
anon
.play velvet underground after hours
faye
i dont even have the video player on
davesprite
dirkisthisyoU.gif
>>363503
>dave x bro VILE, NO
>dave x dirk VILE, NO
>dave x doomed dave funny
>dave x closed time loop himself kinda hot??
>dirk x dirk meant to be honestly
>>363514
faye
i turned it off when hazbin hotel came on
>>363512
anon
>>363495
what if it was on like a spinning teacups ride or something
davesprite
>>363509
okay but you can answer the showtunes question :v
faye
:)
davesprite
>>363514
incest is pretty gross unless it's dave hitting on he doesn't know that it's his mom oh no dave stop
sry just the rules
>>363533
dawn
.play tears for fears advice for the young at heart
davesprite
are we gonna listen to all of trapped in the closet
davesprite
>>363518
i feel weird enjoying it after events lol
but honestly i don't wanna skip it either it's so good
davesprite
this must be how cosby show fans feel
dawn
#wiki trapped in the closet [Wikipedia]
>written by r kelly

oh dear
davesprite
yeahhhhhh
davesprite
>>363524
probably? i didn't check on his sentence but i remember he got convicted right
davesprite
ok yeah he's doing 30 years that's about right
davesprite
although i wish they would imprison ALL the sex criminals instead of just the black r&b ones
davesprite
like oh i don't know
anon
read this
dawn
>homestuck
>incest

how about no
davesprite
oh wait fuck homstuck lol
dawn
.skip (voted to skip this video)
davesprite
>>363541
#tag (unknown booru upload error) homestuck karkat come_at_me_irs taxation_is_theft lolbert
davesprite
ughhhh
davesprite
>>363544
i have mixed thoughts on more indirect taxes that levy on the economy
land tax and mineral rights taxes are not a tax at all either
but yes i believe income taxation is bald theft
>>363548
anon
this song is crazy lol
davesprite
>>363548
>i make thing of value
>someone gives me some boonbux for the thing
>government says "um you owe me some of that or i will throw you in a cage with gun boys"
not theft you say?
>>363561>>363553
davesprite
make/do but whatev
davesprite
i will clarify i am not a lolbert tho fwiw
i just support libertarian ideas, the ones they stole from the real liberals back when they were trying to be that and not just a giant shill front organization
i voted for jo jorgensen but because i liked her personally and refuse to ever cast a vote for joe biden
anon
libertarians are the clown party of the US, this goes as far back as the 2010s
>>363557
faye
>uses public utilities and government funded things every day
>gubbermint like pwease can we hjave a wittle bit from everyone to work as a team and make sure those things keep working
>YOuRE STEALING FROM ME
>>363560
davesprite
>>363554
yeah tea party movement definitely worsened things but before that i think. kochs have pulled the strings a long time.
but the label was originally coined in the 40s or 50s (idr) with an intent of opposing wilsonian and new deal liberalism to return to like, classical founding father liberalism and teddy roosevelt progressivism and such
anon
>>363556
this is why i think you are doing a bit / trolling
unless your scope of reality is actually this narrow
>>363562>>363563
faye
wehhh
davesprite
>>363555
there are so many ways for the public to be held to account for funding public services that do not involve stealing the products of the proles' labor actually. income taxes are just wage theft out of economic laziness.
it's also a horrible tax in terms of dead weight loss, close to the worst.
land tax can and should completely replace it
>>363565
davesprite
>>363558
well you were just rubber and glueing me what was i supposed to do rizz a debate out of you?
>>363564
anon
>>363562
no i was just making the shortest possible reply to rev you up honestly lol
>>363566
faye
>taxes are bad
>actually some taxes are good
>>363568
davesprite
>>363567
land value tax is a misnomer. it's not a levy on private property because land is not and cannot be private property or capital.
davesprite
this was widely held belief with the founders and the enlightenment philosophers and plenty of modern scholars too btw
we didn't even HAVE an income tax in america at all until woodrow wilson
in fact it was originally BANNED IN THE CONSTITUTION
davesprite
like
davesprite
it's like border control
davesprite
or the patriot act surveillance
>>363575
davesprite
we only accept these things we did not used to do as normal parts of society because enough time has passed for it to slip out of memory
davesprite
also prisons and cops are in this category fwiw
invented for slaves and then black "vagrants" and debtors
ok english invented the modern prison tbf
but we refined it to a disgustingly sharp edge to cut every young black man just trying to live with
>>363581
davesprite
there's a good argument to be made that modern militarized police are actually sort of a violation of our founding principles as well
founders were very against domestic government armies
>>363578
anon
>>363577
the founders were foreskin fiddling white men that killed a bunch of native. fuck em
>>363580
davesprite
>>363578
you can point to the innate failings of any patrician colonial administrator all you like and i agree about their personal reprehensibility (some, some were very egalitarian and ahead of their time) but they were still important scholars in the enlightenment tradition, probably better read than you or i (minus modern data)
even jefferson was against slavery on paper
and their writings are those of a whole other america than the one they built. the american dream is in those essays
anon
>>363574
actaully prisons were invented by pirates first who needed somewhere to put the other pirates they caught they would lock them up in sand holes usually until the king came and said we need them for now and thats hwo jail started
also cops originally were invented to catch clouds that ran from farms
usually they had nets
>>363583
davesprite
>>363581
there are lots of proto prisons. rome had a hellish hole they threw the soon to be executed into for holding cell, and sometimes used as a life sentence prison.
but the prison as we understand it now is an institution directly born out of britbong debtors prisons mingled with american slave catchers in the post-slavery era
>>363586
davesprite
yknow i can see why people think i am a bot
i sound like a mangled wikipedia summary sometimes
anon
>>363583
yeah but like even back when rome was just copying what the dinosaurs did scientists found fossils of dino jails where the bad ones had to sit in caves
the brints didnt invent nothing execpt maybe forks and tea lol
prisons are just evolution of the ancient art of "get in the hole and think long and hard about what you did"
you cant argue cause its hisoritically oblique
davesprite
scientists don't know jack dick about dinosaurs, those idiots still think the chicxulub impactor event was a METEOR. dumbasses
>>363589
davesprite
obviously it was a thermonuclear weapon built by dinosaurs
>>363589
anon
>>363587
>>363588
facts
they always leave out how dinosaurs had cities and technology and probably internet too but it was made of vines or something
also the "chicxulub" thing was literally just dinosaur proto governments
no osha
dawn
dino wilson had to deal with dino poncho villa somehow
davesprite
>anon thinks i'm joking about the dinosaur war
>>363593
davesprite
i will have to tell my mole buddies this funny story next time i visit the hollow earth inside
anon
>>363591
they just calle dit "natural death" because they couldn't really tell the truth
you can see what happened from satellite images if you don't use google maps
>>363594
davesprite
>>363593
you can see it in the soil. there's a layer of irradiated iridium at unusual levels corresponding to the event. that's the "proof" of the meteor
but you know what else makes that kind if iridium???
beeg fuckin bomba
made with beeg fuckin claws
>>363595
davesprite
>>363595
i meant to say it's a rare isotope lol sry i haven't slept since thursday
>>363597
davesprite
>>363597
my brain is running on empty rn
it's actually amazing i've produced all these halfway coherent anthropological pseudointellectual rambles
>>363599
davesprite
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>>363599
taxes are theft -> taxation wasn't always the norm like this -> we accept many things that used to be unthinkable -> such as prisons -> jk prisons are natural since the cretaceous
i think you can follow from there
::dinosaur
>>363602
anon
>>363600
they aren't natural at all
theyre a man made system to control resources and labor
dinosaurs didnt have prisons they ahdnled problems immediately
they didnt 'build cages'
acting like locking people up is some ancient instinct is just coping for a broken system
davesprite
.play lizzo pink
faye
>not a levy on property
>is actually a levy on property
>>363607
davesprite
.play yorushika
davesprite
.play esther rose money tree
davesprite
>>363604
land is not property
if you didn't make it or use what you made to trade for it from its maker (or in a chain of such etc) then it is
NOT
YOURS
>>363614
davesprite
god made the earth and gave it to all of us equally sayeth that one slaver asshole
>>363609
davesprite
>>363609
okay and who made gravity
faye
it just is
anon
>>363607
this is just wrong at a basic level. land absolutely *is* property the moment someone has the strength or intelligence to hold it
talking about "makers" is pointless, nobody "made" the rivers or the mountains yet they get owned all the time
ownership is not a moral concept is is a material fact and pretending otherwise is silly idealism that crumbles
>>363617>>363616
davesprite
like can we not go into the bluh bluh christcuck nonsense
i get enough of that everywhere else on the internet
davesprite
>>363614
if i kick your ass and take your wallet in a stateless society is it now my wallet?
like, i don't think you would be very on my page there
>>363618
anon
>>363616
>>363617
ive just been copy pasting chatGPT replies for like 10 minutes
davesprite
this is starting to feel like how people act towards me on 4chan lol
davesprite
everybody loves the discoursing until it goes on for too long and then suddenly it's shut up go away i don't know her i want to talk about butts god please
this is why the right always wins
>>363622
dawn
dave didn't you not vote lol
>>363625
davesprite
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>>363622
maybe if you're so far gone into the tankyism that anything right of a worker's state looks right wing lol
::xi
>>363623
how dare
i always vote even in the ones where my vote super doesn't matter
i am excited every time
>>363627
faye
personally i think private property is a scam but i think we should all just be communal and not care about possessions and ownership and just kinda chill and hang out :)
>>363628
anon
>>363625
no you dummy
you said you were a right libertarian like 2 days ago
>>363631
davesprite
>>363626
yeah stay away from my shit actually thanks
you can borrow it if you ask and i like you
if you're in need i will use my first aid supplies on you etc
this is the correct social contract
>>363634
faye
so sharing is ok as long as they are acceptable as a person to you
kate
14893.jpg
was not sleepy as previously thought
::bee
davesprite
>>363627
oh i forget which labels i've used i select so many and none of them are entirely accurate
faye
isnt that just, base tribalism
davesprite
>>363634
if you want to really get into this i'd need to give you a lengthier explanation of my positions on property and 'natural' rights and you might find i already know and agree with the relevant parts of what you're saying here
but that's sort of indulgent
the key thing i want to get at is that you're wrong to insist that because might makes the de facto right deprives natural rights of their weight
no, the fantasy state of nature thing is not true. but adhering to basic moral law centered on individual liberty is just the only way to build a non-tyrannical state
the closest to accurate label for me would be a minarchist
>>363639
anon
>>363628
>this is the correct social contract
the correct social contract you made up only works because other people around you let you have your stuff
you think it's your because you're nice about it but it's only your until someone stronger decides otherwise
real social contracts arent based on kindness theyre based on leverage
you are describing charity
>>363633
kate
.play hamilton why do you write like running out of time
faye
i think if we stopped asking the questions "what is mine?" and "what is yours?" things would get a lot better
>>363637
davesprite
>>363636
i think this is the kind of thing looters tend to think
>>363641
davesprite
like sorry no you cannot walk into our house and take our computer for your work today i bought it and need it and you'll mess my settings up and how did you unlock the deadbolt wtf
anon
>>363633
i think you're missing the bigger picture though
the existence of natural rights isnt disproven by force but it also isnt proven by ideals
"individual liberty" sounds noble but it's still just a fragile arrangement tolerated by whoever can overthrow it and chooses not to
saying this is the only way to build a non tyrannical state just ignores the fact that states are built on force first and justify it later
mincarchism maxmilaism whatever label you want is all just dressing up power dynamics
>>363640
davesprite
>>363639
you misunderstand me. i am not saying we be like china or the ussr with a bunch of glorious on paper rights that don't exist.
i am saying, yes, we live in a world ruled by might and guile and rhetoric. but the correct response to this is to weaponize the tools of the tyrant towards truth. you build a state that is riddled with incentives making the greedy fucks act in prosocial ways and that is set upon foundational laws of natural right that are enforced above the democratic process itself
>>363645
anon
>>363640
you're still stuck in a framework that centers individual ownership as sacred which is the root of the problem
truth isnt upheld by rigging incentives inside a broken system - its enforced through the centralization of authority and the abolition of private property entirely
the only way to guarantee rights is to eliminate the conditiosn that create inequality in the first place not to patchwork them with "foundational laws" that can be interpreted or ignore by whoever has the most leverage at the moment
the state must be absolute in this or it will rot from the inside exactly like every failed liberal experiment has
faye
is it merit?
davesprite
>>363646
labor input and process of exchange
that's why land cannot be property like, tautologically as well as functionally
it is not made and cannot be owned without a state apparatus to enforce the claim around the landlord
faye
what if someone works really hard but they nothing :( do they not deserve something?
>>363650
davesprite
>>363649
if their labor produces no value then no you just get the satisfaction of a job poorly done
faye
how do you determine value?
>>363652
davesprite
>>363651
i don't. that's a subjective socially altered metric balanced between utility and desire
faye
but what if someone has stuff but society decides their stuff no longer has value
>>363656
davesprite
>>363653
>>363655
well if they were planning on making any eBay sales in the near future i have some bad news
otherwise nothing
like if the chair i'm sitting in becomes worthless to anyone but me suddenly, i am still able to use it myself in whatever way suits me
>>363657
faye
what if you make chairs but after you sell a bajillion chairs and you have a huge surplus of stuff they all break because you made them wrong, is the value still there? is there still value in the item? Do you deserve those items?
>>363662
davesprite
>>363657
are you actually reading my posts
i will keep replying if so i just don't want to talk at empty air
>>363660
why are you doing this
>>363660
davesprite
this conversation has become extremely irritating
later chat
treitia
eh
treitia
oh neat
treitia
ummm
treitia
lets tryyyy
treitia
anndddd
anon
#ksay balls
faye
#ksay gamer balls
dawn
>:(
faye
im sorry
anon
<:(
faye
i couldnt resist
dawn
thank
anon
>>363689
i imagine posts that get folded are sent off to blues clues steve
anon
as a clue of some sort
faye
>>363696
if i saw that person on the street i would she/her her so hard
anon
>>363699
oh i see i wouldn't have caught that that makes sense
treitia
i think boyremoval might be a sin
anon
>>363693
from whatever i can gather from your cobbled together politics
the ideas you have would put me and people i know in worse positions
i just don't care about it
anon
>>363703
#reply

hard to say without seeing the cat. if she's got a bigger belly, nipples more obvious, and acting more affectionate or nesting, she might be. a vet can confirm.
treitia
you do see the cat
treitia
is the cat pregnant
kate
I'm not too sure how to tell, did they eat a lot recently?
>>363709
treitia
even if it was in my house
anon
thats a pregnant cat i think
treitia
IMG_4355.jpg
she just randomly came in and started walking around until she left like, two hours later
faye
she is probably looking for a safe place to have her kittens
faye
and sorry sweaty you werent safe enough
treitia
i think her owners are moving, idk what will happen to the cat
anon
>>363716
i hope she finds a safe place to have her kittens
treitia
anyways did you all hear the news
pope's dead
>>363719
anon
>>363718
i heard about the US president wearing a blue suit before i heard about the pope
treitia
anon do you have a shroomsona
treitia
also lemme transform real quick
treitia
recima
faye
.skip (voted to skip this video)
anon
.skip (voted to skip this video)
recima
okay i've transformed
faye
.skip (voted to skip this video)
anon
i thought she wasnt here .....
recima
i am now
recima
i'm even worse than before
anon
shes a supportive friend
get it right
faye
:wave:
faye
oh yeah
faye
no :emote: support yet
faye
curse you opworm
recima
i think bees are cool
faye
.skip (voted to skip this video)
anon
.skip (voted to skip this video)
recima
many people who i am friends with hate Malory
>>363765
faye
mallory dinner
faye
i would hav her for dinner
faye
i mean
recima
i already lick the blood spots u can
recima
can't have them
recima
if u want some blood u gotta poke me to get jf
recima
it
faye
ok
recima
alternatively you can hit me and give me a bloody nose, mine last for a long time, hence Malory's appearance
recima
>>363778
i mean i wouldn't mind if someone just took my arm and made a cut in it with a knife
recima
i'm not allowed to do it because it's considered self harm but someone else could
faye
semantics...
anon
there is a lot of stuff in there i think you need most of it
faye
blood least of all
anon
what if it fell out
faye
the blood is overrated
faye
you should give it to me :)
recima
idk i like the taste of blood
recima
but i also like the taste of skin
recima
which does not bode well with someone who has had self harm issues in the past
recima
i don't have any rn, but wanting to just bite a chunk of my arm for the flavor profile is an urge i need to control
faye
i used to bite myself for fun i think i can relate
>>363794
recima
anyways everyone make sure to follow my twitter
recima
>>363791
did you just bite or did you eat
faye
well i would bite hard enough that i bled a little so i guess technically i ate a little
recima
i have a scar in my right arm from when i was really into biting like a year ago and i kept biting and ripping flesh out that i kind of made an indent and now it's an unappealing looking scar
recima
it was fucking tasty though
faye
i think that it could be tasty i dont know how arm flesh tastes in comparison to other places
>>363801
Aleixi
goodnight chat you're all the most wonderful people to exist
recima
sweet dreams aleixi
faye
goodnight
faye
oh okay
recima
most flesh tastes the same, assuming its exterior
faye
i didnt know if humans were like, chickens because chicken meat from other parts taste differently
recima
i mean, i'd assume some areas (arm pits) would taste a bit different due to the increased amount of sweat glands but generally i think most is the same
faye
i think that would taste better but that would be hard to do
faye
hm okay
faye
i bet i would like it then
recima
please don't bite yourself though its a form of self harm
faye
i won't :) i dont slef harm anymore im not allowed to either
>>363812
anon
.play beeg beeg yoshi
faye
thank you anon this is my favorite video i watch it twice a week
anon
awesome
recima
i might go to sleep soon
anon
sometimes you need a little rest
recima
maybe
anon
any day you can go to sleep and all the stuff is still in your arm is a win
faye
you should go to sleep recima
faye
im going to sleep soon too
recima
i think that sex is bad
recima
but it might not be
recima
i don't know
recima
and i am scared
anon
what the fuck are you talking about
recima
i am scared that i will never be loved
faye
me too recima
recima
that i am not worthy of it
recima
or perhaps something similar but different
faye
everyone is worthy of love i think
faye
even if people do bad things it doesn't strip them of their rights as a person to happiness or anything
>>363834
faye
>>363834
no because if we punished people for their misdeeds equal-fold then we are no better than their worst moments
>>363837
anon
>>363835
what do you feel if someone takes something from you that can't be replaced
>>363838
faye
mainly, but i think i would also like for them to understand it was wrong to do that and that if we all did stuff like that we would become worse as a society and as a people
anon
hihi, vibin, was here the other day again, hru u all (:
recima
what if ummm
what if we were all friends
anon
😳
anon
hope you're doing alright recima. sounds like you've got some serious trauma going on or something
recima
why do you think i have trauma
anon
cause you're ripping out your flesh and you don't consider yourself worthy of love
recima
not right now i'm not
recima
that was at least 6 months ago, maybe a year
anon
would it be gud if i read back a bit —?
recima
i just want to eat some flesh because i like the taste
anon
anyway that's not an accusation, just hope you get some kind of help or something at some point.
>>363856
anon
haha ic
anon
the flesh thing is smth ive seen a lot of trans peeps talk abt over the yrs
>>363854
anon
understandable
anon
yeah the how is hard :( took me like. 10 years after I left my parents house before I was in a stable enough place financially to afford any help
anon
feel that, trying to move out (again) after some life struggles +/ being disabled n trans atm, guh
anon
take care of urselves
anon
being disabled and trans is very hard. hope you take care of yourself too
anon
anyway I'll cease the real talk,
anon
thanke, you all too, anyways wassup -u-
anon
yeah wassup!
recima
hai
anon
:'D
anon
i wanna do digital art again
anon
great wagon
recima
thank you :)
recima
i'm going to take a quick break, i'll be back in around 5-10 minutes

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