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>>363871
whoa horse on the left has a phantom face. two face horse
anon
woh
anon
(if thats another user, no, if not then definitely)
anon
that's ok, old user from years ago. she was great. 0 filter.
anon
(do need to choose a name here again tho, poofed for months)
anon
yeye
anon
reminds me, I should check on older ircs again n say hi; tho sometimes it gets ugh
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there
anon
anon posting is based tho
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agreed, but rip now
recima
imm back
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weba
anon
wb
anon
last time I used this site, I'd only been on E for like a year and I'd never been with a man. ever since, I've been with enough men that I think I'm done with men and now I pass
>>363893
anon
some of them don't but yeah.
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have to get hrt again after my source i was on for yrs got dumb legal bs
anon
ah damn hope u can get a good new source
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yeye nw, you all too for those that need
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(:
anon
they look pretty lined up to me
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i should post my filled notebooks
>>363903
anon
11 pens. was there a 12th once?
>>363909
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(gotta go through all my drives, guh) — but nice
anon
going through drives is weird. had a sad one, found a video of me and my old friend who ended up going to jail, like a decade ago, years before his decline. video of us just in the park singing songs together and playing guitar. it's really pure, but with the hindsight of the last 10 years. chilling.
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also gotta buy several new ones, & hopefully a disk shelf
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yeah,feel that, had to go through a few hundred gigs yday to archive of old vids n hundreds of photos
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is nice but also rough, reminds me of how the only trans person in my area just disappeared, having been in jail before, worrying
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(them in jail)
anon
God I'm sorry to hear that. that's scary. you in rural US or something?
anon
I can skip this when y'all get bored
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(was looking through drives, tabbed out on a tiny crt) but yeah, trying to leave the midwest again for the moment
anon
wish you luck getting somewhere safer
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tyty, same for you all if so too
anon
I'm luckily somewhere safe at the moment ty though
recima
do i sleep now #riskflip (heads)
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apparently not
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how many minutes until i check again 15
anon
great use of the commands
recima
eh i could have gotten unlucky 42 252 7 145 4
anon
looks like a phone number haha
>>363929
anon
::hurley
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>>363927
damn that reminds me
on ios like, every number of phone number length sometimes gets turned into a clickable phone number and it sucks
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123456789
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1234567
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i dont think i can trigger it but yea
anon
that's interesting, I'm not on ios so I've never seen that
anon
does it get like the + before it and stuff too?
recima
nah, usually it just becomes a hyperlink
anon
Interesting
recima
found it
anon
sleeping for mango
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eepers
anon
weird
recima
can't even be disabled :<
anon
they could call him Steve Neets not Steve Jobs
anon
they should call it worm not apple (cause worm inside apple)
anon
anon got tangoed
anon
should I try and get some more sleep or should I commit to being awake on basically no sleep
anon
wish spyro the dragon was real
anon
:3 minutes
recima
:3
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three and then i spin the wheel again
anon
>>363958
what kinda music you make anon? I don't wanna contribute to yr procrastination tho
>>363960
anon
>>363959
i dont really have a sound identity
i like making uhh
idk most recently guitar music
>>363963
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:v
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ic, I need to get to selling some of my gear at some point again
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I used to more
anon
they sound so good alone
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lol
anon
>>363967
no idea, I just made sure to always be in positions where that was someone else's job. I really should learn at some point cause being reliant on others keeps landing me in situations hahaha
recima
goodnight maybe #riskflip (heads)
>>363977
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rip
recima
well i guess not
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.....
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#riskflip (heads) goodnight
recima
OR NOT I GUESS
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also ye, isnice
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266
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......................
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ouef
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yea im sleeping bai bai little apples #uwu (USER WAS UWU'D FOR THIS POST)
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what
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oh yea wait a sex
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byebye
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sex
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sex
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sev
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sec
anon
goodnight
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eep well
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#uwu (USER WAS UWU'D FOR THIS POST) SHAZAM
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-<-
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lel rip, understandable
anon
>>363999
aw okay thats understandable
anon
did post a few unreleased things that never got released here a few years back
anon
only like 3 people could dox me from that though haha
anon
I mean worst case scenario, people find out I shit post on an obscure tranny board. not the end of the world
anon
4:06a.mp3
i put this out somewhere and then i realized its not done
its missing something
anon
that's a really cool atmosphere!
>>364008
anon
>>364007
i think so too, i just really wish i knew how to button tracks up
its past the point where 'just making a thing' is novel to people who might listen to it
now i need to approach 'good'
anon
that's a good place to be! big progress!
anon
I'm at the point where I already put out probably the best thing I'll ever be involved in and now everything I do hence shall be compared to that.
>>364011
anon
>>364010
ohhhhhh noooooooooooooooooo
anon
it's ok haha, that's the sell out era
anon
do you genuinely make a living with your music
anon
yeah
anon
oh thats super cool
anon
I mean, I make a living in music, not all from the music I made
anon
oh?
anon
like you end up doing lots of different things you know. session stuff, teaching, etc
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nicu
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recommend scoring etc if you can too, for the income
anon
yeah got some friends making a tonne from that
anon
got offered a gig for that a while back but turned it down for a long, complicated reason. dude kept me involved in a token way though just to honour the work I already did for him
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happens -u-
anon
I should really work on my production and arrangement chops.
anon
do you largely perform, say one or two instruments
or do you write songs
anon
just 1, sometimes write songs
anon
just put an insane amount of time into it so people put up with having me on projects
anon
definitely not a meta build. just how things went. hahaha. I would need to put in a stupid amount of work to get my production chops up to speed with my other skills but I feel like I should probably do that soon
anon
that way I can be a bit more self sufficient and less of just a jobber or a sideman
anon
just i can keep pouring time and effort into what I already do and I see immediate reward, putting time into other stuff, the reward is gonna be delayed
anon
so I just keep choosing to keep on hammering what I'm already good at
anon
nothing like the conflation of art and money
anon
hahaha real. I did a long time of just doing the art part. was involved in some stuff I'm very proud of. but now I'm just in the. gotta get the bag phase of life. for now.
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yea
anon
find some creative joy in improvisation still though and whenever I'm given the reigns to do what I like on something I make the most of it every time. but yeah ended a decade long musical partnership recently
anon
so just need to find my feet creating on my own and just find what voice I even have or what I even want to create in the absence of that friend
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gl, started publishing more serious writing of mine again/research work
anon
oh hell yeah! that's exciting stuff! what sort of writing is it?
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err, I do a sort of open source investigative work & publish things I come across — it's mostly conflict stuff, guh
>>364045>>364042
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wish you the best w the music n production, n finding what you yourself want to put out n make
>>364043
anon
>>364041
thanks! I wish you the best with your writing and research!
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ye, can be a lot of ups n downs but come from stuff inspired or based off work by Bellingcat
anon
how do you end up on a place like libpol dot org
thats very interesting
>>364048
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lmao
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>>364046
had a group of online friends, one of them ostracized me from the group when I started transitioning. was known enough in other internet spaces that power dynamic felt weird to hang in those zones. ended up posting on LGBT to trauma dump about, well everything. eventually came across this place. posted for a bit 2 years ago. left for 2 years cause more traumatic shit happened that scared me off image boards. recently gf started posting here and I got sucked back in, during a period of again feeling fairly ostracized
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I used to document & explore message boards a lot n found here maybe a yr or less bacc
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awe, yeah, went through that too n hope youve found something now that isnt such pain & shit
>>364052
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yeah, I avoid lgbt on most message boards, especially chans, but here has been alr so yk
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>>364050
I got re-added to that old group chat cause the person who ostracized me initially went to jail. different friend from the other friend. all the homies end up in jail. life is weird.
anon
that group chat is nice tho, but it's all like. mid 30s gamer dudes from the US. they're lovely but like the chat is only active for about 2 hours per day and I don't really relate hugely to those people. they're probably some of my best friends I still have though.
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yeah, it gets strange sometimes, tbh I'd not be surprised if the guy who did similar to me is in jail or smth similar; his ex who was my friend originally was secretly dating him n apparently he was awful n she left as well
>>364057
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thasgud, even so, can be nice to have people you know that well -v- ; and ye dw lel
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>>364054
eesh, I'm sorry to hear that anon. :( it's weird when the people who wrong you and make you feel evil and unwanted are themselves, extremely evil
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(was hmm, 6 yrs ago now)
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ye, was a community I worked my way up to co owning a few 1000 member discord server for, it got weird at the end
>>364062
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was for the best I left tho, thankfully
>>364062
anon
>>364055
hahaha fucking hell that's so distorted
anon
>>364059
>>364060
God yeah, those kinda communities are weird as fuck. there was a community I used to promote my shit in a while back of that kinda size that while I was there ended up having like. 2 or 3 literal predators (that got caught) come and go
>>364065
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lmao i just listened to that one
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yea, that was smth I just released writing on, as someone we documented — it took them six yrs but wtf ever — just got sentenced in a case for 20 csam charges
>>364066
anon
>>364064
Jesus Christ. that's so fucked
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chat sites w dms and lacking the safety n moderation in those departments usually will lead to those ppl flocking there, its a mess
anon
yeah it's why I just don't hang in any large discord servers any more it's just too fucking creepy to me. image boards creep me out too honestly. but the way I see it is if I just am shit posting it's fine. weird thing happened after a couple of the people I knew ended up getting done for those kinda crimes. I just kinda got this OCD about my own behavior and conduct like I was terrified I'd somehow accidentally do those kinda crimes. talked to a few friends who'd been through the same shit and it's a common trauma response to that though. just like the self checking and self doubt and over caution
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yeah, I need to get bacc on discy again, I just kinda dipped but am in small stream communities & so on that I should join for
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ye, get that n have paranoia around it still somewhat, have had a lot of friends or peeps I've know get cfaa hacking charges
>>364074
anon
what's that
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computer fraud and abuse act, its uh
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people getting sentenced to 10 yrs on some tiny actions
anon
>>364070
perhaps we do a little /closed/ source intelligence
anon
oh jesus
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perhap :з
anon
did they just like poke around the wrong people or were they going for The Big One
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usually the wrong people, it was more commonly heavily charges mid 90s to 00s, now it depends but peeps also get copyright charges; its weird
anon
copyright charges..............
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though these kind of charges being punished more than child abuse ones is messed up
>>364083>>364084
anon
internet is scary
anon
im glad I dont live in the US so I can pirate whatever I want whenever I want without consequences
anon
>>364080
it's so fucked. the court systems take so long to process that shit. there's people who absolutely should be in jail who aren't. it's fucked
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yea, also is much of the reason many pieces of media are still existent at all
anon
>>364086
it's such a stupid fucking task to try and lay claim to information like that
it is a thought
>>364089
anon
>>364088
I feel like such a thirst to accomulate money to the point of making up such weird social constructs should be classified as a mental illness
>>364090
anon
>>364089
perhaps we can reevaluate the definitions when there are no more resources left and yada yada doom yada
anon
we will run ourselves extinct in pursuit of it all
anon
scared and sad. only went and triggered myself talking about that shit. it's not as bad as it used to be. just still gets me. it's still kinda fresh wound. when it's just like. two of the closest people you've known who end up getting done for shit. weird
>>364094
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( ´・・)ノ(._.`)
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hope you can unwind for or in a bit maybe, is tough n feel that hough; have cptsd from er my own lot of dumb shit
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bwaa
anon
sorry to hear that anon
anon
I think honestly I should probably steer clear of image boards again. coming here in the first place again was a trauma response from just facing ostracization again.
>>364117>>364101
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maybe for the best if it helps in times like these -u-
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ah, yeah, understandable
anon
>>364098
if it's harmful please leave, genuinely
it's not worth it and definitely not the point of the place
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yh
anon
yeah I think I'll try and dip and just deal with the feelings around my most recent ostracisation
>>364105
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o7 welp, nice to meet peeps n take care -v-
anon
>>364103
If you ever want to request a self ban it can be done
anon
I request a self ban then pls opworm
anon
I am not opworm for the record
anon
I know but when opworm shows up. pls just ban me for some comically long amount of time.
>>364110
anon
I always thought of him as just "the admin"
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>>364112
Take care of yourself anon
Best wishes
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x <3
anon
you too anons
anon
Always sad to lose a wormie but
SadChan🍉🍉
>>364098
im sry 2 hear that i hope u feel better.
SadChan🍉🍉
i dont think its wierd when you are feeling lonely to go to places where people congregate
SadChan🍉🍉
its normal and healthy 2 want to be around people i just woke up but I wish u the best
SadChan🍉🍉
for loser wierdos like myself places like this r nice because being lonely is really painful
anon
it's true
i could see why anonymous imageboard isn't the safest place however
anon
What's a safe place? no such thing exists in the internet
anon
Either people are shallow and fake to avoid getting punished by a strict moderation, or things are real but much riskier
anon
>people are only kind etc due to risk of punishment
that's a little grim isn't it
>>364127>>364128
anon
>>364126
Not what I'm saying. I see lots of kindness here, and there are no rules that force such a thing. In places like these people are nice just because they truly are, but the possibility of people being mean is much more open.
>>364269>>364131
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its a spectrum in terms of places online
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also to do with how or if the power is centralized, the ruleset & social contract there, etc
anon
>>364128
there are rules that necessarily enforce a baseline i guess
but in general, i don't think people either present a fraudulent self just to avoid punishment OR are real and risky
>>364133
anon
it's probably a lot more grey than that
anon
>>364131
Not what I'm saying. I'm saying people are more fraudulent in heavily moderated social media. Also I'm not saying that people are "real and risky", but that in websites like this one you see people that are very kind and people that are very mean just as often.
>>364135
anon
IRL people are much more sincere than in both contexts
anon
>>364133
to the original point about an anonymous imageboard perhaps not being the safest
i meant in that anon's specific case w/ her specific issues
>>364136
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can be a lot more burdensome to vulnerable peeps who need to care for themselves, & being around other ppl who might not be the best for them at the time
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particularly for anyone on ie 4chs lgbt or so on
anon
4chan lgbt board is self harm
>>364141
anon
yeah...
places like 4chan's lgbt and even here tend to attract very strange and predatory people
anon
i don't want this to be a place of self harm personally
that would be tragic
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yea, the scene here is the only reason i consider browsing
anon
I may sound very schizo, but I think constant exposure to 4chan makes people very defensive and willing to say insensitive things, usually in response to an imaginary attack. Also prone to interpreting things the worst possible way.
>>364146
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generally, yeah
anon
>>364144
100% agree
i still have to try and fight off those tendencies, it's very mentally damaging
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having a sort of social darwinism be what guides people with what to say can make people really not react well, particularly when things on the hub are toxic or aggressive
>>364148
anon
>>364148
It's a way of interacting with people that nearly ensures isolating onself.
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also, a lot of judgement
anon
*oneself
anon
Either that or ending up surrounded by very bitter, conflictive people.
>>364154
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<lurk more, [redacted]
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>>364152
bitter, aggressive, conflict prone
it leaves a sense of a hostile world impressed upon people who are exposed too long
>>364156
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guh
anon
>>364154
That "hostile world" sense likely has something to do with the rise of hateful and resentful ideologies in 4chan
>>364157
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also the attention they gain, due to the social darwinism thing in combo w that n other factors
>>364159
anon
>>364158
could you elaborate a little
i think i agree but im not sure what you exactly mean
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the only threads that stick around are things that grab attention, they need to be errr
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its a constant sense of competition, making them feel they're having to be or are aggressive etc
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its a mix of things, but due to the way the system works, extreme ideas can flourish more under those conditions
anon
ah yes, the xitter approach
it naturally selects for controversy
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yeah
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thats the darwinism part, it was a harmful theory applied to social situations still seen on 4ch n such
anon
i agree
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and xitter now
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especially since moderation there is worse
anon
it's been supercharged by capital
there's a monetary incentive to host the most controversial attention grabbing disgusting shit
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yeah, also there being algos in control of such
anon
incredible how much damage we could do connecting little bits of copper together everywhere
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this reminds me of a luddite chat i was here for months ago
anon
was there a luddite chat here
anon
what was that like
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convo abt it basically, not luddite only lel
anon
sorry lmao i was referencing the specific instance not a board or something
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nw lelol
anon
it would be absolutely absurd to discard advancements like the microcprocessor or what have you
but the sincere damage the internet is doing is just
i don't know, how do you really solve that problem
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i enjoy talking abt changing the incentives in it, but the ways i see it gone into by ie anprims makes me so guh, cus well
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being disabled & the idea of 'going back' would mean well killing a ton of ppl
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eugenics esc even though many wouldnt realize or think abt how it would function
anon
yeah it's inherent to that kind of 'all or nothing' ideology
the scope of it is so focused and destructive
anon
there's no humane way to 'turn it back'
we can't just retvrn in a way that's not going to do eugenics
anon
changing the incentives of the internet and communications would involve changing the incentives of pretty well the entirety of society
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i didnt want to dive into it, but yes, it would basically be ending capitalism for that; other than smaller changes like decentralizing platforms n so on
anon
i came to the same conclusion
i'm not even sure decentralizing could help
ISPs control the infrastructure which means the country they reside in control the infra etc etc etc
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yea
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there are changes & improvements — or the equivelant of reforms — that could be made, but it's tough in the current state of things
anon
until attention != currency
it's a really immovable object unstoppable force deal
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yeah, & the idea that there's inherently a difference between/that the internet isn't 'real'
anon
i would honestly love to meet the person in this day and age that would make that argument
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I mostly hear it from relatively older ppl & so on who discount things that are serious, but happened or started online
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but when you talk to them or ask certain questions, usually they can't defend that position
anon
of course they can't
that's not a real position anymore
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yea lol
anon
maybe back in the BBS days that was true lol
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I mainly get reminded of it when I see/hear IRL
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it also is reminding me rn of the time the Australian fed tried to ban pron cus they said that small booba women would make men interested in kids
>>364203
anon
must be nice
being retired and completely disconnected from the notions of cause and effect
anon
w-what
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lmao
anon
>>364199
#reply is this real

nice try fed.
is this real
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ill find it
anon
thanks ai you asshole
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can we post links here, i forget
anon
yeah, as long as they aren't malicious/nsfw
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there's a quote telling this specific part of the story in Cybernews doc interviewing Greg Housh, but there's also a lot of articles on the anon response in "OpTitstorm" so
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guh
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theres a famous quote from housh's now wife, I forget how it goes exactly n gives me an excuse to watch part of that bwaa
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("""famous""")
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yeah, cybernews can be cringe w some of their stuff but the interview — ill find the timestamp — is p gud
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around 27:20 is when this ref comes up
anon
.skip (voted to skip this video)
anon
.seek 27:20
anon
oh my god that is such a stupid case of telling on yourself WHAT
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lmao
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shall we burn books too is crazy with how things have become
anon
do you live in australia?
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nah, US midwest, pain
anon
ah okay
i wasn't sure if you were talking about AUS sentiment or US
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lel, I think they have sooome stuff like the book stuff 'here' but not on the level of the US, especially since the reaction to this admin
anon
ah ... i miss when anonymous wasn't strictly some fed astroturfing project
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yeah, I did independent conflict aid stuff w some people from there but hearing some of the influence campaigns using them made me dip
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peter thiel esc groups using them to attack US foreign policy targets n all
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tho seeing some of them organizing rn to do stuff recently n on mayday has been nice
anon
i haven't seen a single thing they've done for years
i just assume it's all govt ops
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they dont get nearly as much attention n have been de-prioritized in algo sites
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but they put out a press release/video in january & i forget the name hm
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the exposing of the fed insiders was done a lot by Brown, recommend his recent stuff; he was one of the peeps who got — i think, like a decade — prison time for '''hacking'''
anon
oh one of the people that violated cfa
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that, or leaking charges, i forget specifically what he got but he was put in one of those like
anon
-a
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courts that charge you for, whats the word, something like a tribunal esc thing by nsa or intelligence fed
>>364237
anon
>>364236
#reply

they're called "secret courts" or "fisa courts." basically, shady bs where spooks get warrants to spy on you without normal oversight. they operate in secret, often rubber-stamping mass surveillance, and yeah, you'd never even know if they targeted you. total kangaroo court vibes.
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lel yeah
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he wrote a memoir about all the dumb shit he did & what lead into his real journalism n leaking/cooperation to leak int community docs, n then how they raided him etc
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ah, the current one against authoritarianism esc stuff is OpDreadNought
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opdreadnought.com — they have protest resources on security culture n so on
anon
whoof i wouldn't touch an anonymous related website with a 10ft pole
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yeah
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I just went to check their socials, they're a splinter ish thing
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not at all touched the site myself
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(he leaked windows 95 before it came out before anon stuff)
anon
nice
im wishing he did a better job
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lmao, yeah same
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the Barrett Brown memoir is about that a lot, it's literally called my glorious defeats so yk
anon
does the monitor next to the host have... have hackertyper open?
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lmao
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I don't think so but imagine
anon
i .. i think it does
anon
hehehehehehehe
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ah that might be
SadChan🍉🍉
me hacking:

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>>364260
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I remember knowing a kid who got suspended for having hackertype open in school
>>364261
anon
shes in ..................
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the teachers took it so seriously, it was funny but also like wtf
anon
my school forgot to set group policy that locked powershell
i had a cop show up but was let off because i told the it guy
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>meanwhile im bypassing all of the filters
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lol
anon
they are so uh
idk the school IT stuff was always the playground
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yeah
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we had one of the pilot — POS, cheap — chromebook programs n i remember having a few kids pay me to jailbreak ish them after they failed n we had to get new ones
nama (mobile)
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i like being nice but sometimes being ebil is inevitably, I do with mostly for jokes
>>364272
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.stop
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guh

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