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anon
Like I don't even think it is possible to actually even implement this without birthrate just not even happening at all because you can't fuck anyone within a 500 mile radius that isn't an immigrant
anon
>>396899
I don't really care about whether something is 'natural' but not interfered with or manmade. Poor health outcomes in poor communities may be natural for instance becaus of worse resources, or caused by the dump being nearby.
So I think white genocide is fine, if the genes are dying.
>>396937
anon
>>396934
oh no these weird people hate jewish people part of their white supremacy thing
anon
it really is like an ethnic white breeding fetish, and beyond doing something about the inequal money problem i don't know how to make it go away, it's been a serious issue for over 400 years and still shows no signs of going away
anon
>>396933
I'm not making a naturalistic argument, I genuinely can't see a way for this to function that doesn't require the government straight up denying the right for certain families to breed wholesale. And factor in the need for the population to not collapse in on itself, I only see any practical implementation of this being government designated breeding partners
SadChan🍉🍉
>>396920
lol when I took this it said i was ace lol
anon
>>396905
yes exactly! also children shouldn't be under the control of their parents financially, which traps them in that mindset. They should just have their own lil apartment from the government
>>396941
anon
>>396939
Children shouldn't be under the control of their parents in general, "the family" sucks
>>396943
anon
>>396934
jooz? Did someone say ... JOOZ. DA JOOZ. What are we going to do about the JQ????????
>>396944
anon
>>396941
frfrfr if you love a kid and want to take care of them you can do that as a consentual relationship, not owning them
anon
>>396942
Da Jooz made me stub my toe last night
anon
I think that might be the most harmful kink in the world, the fetish for having ethnic white babies. This fetish has seriously gotten out of hand and is wrecking the world no joke. It even largely controls how money and the law works.
anon
>>396912
nazi germany was attacking others because they were different though. You only don't like them because they were the same against different people. If everyone in the world looked like them what power would they have had?
>>396950>>396953
lain from the cartoon
image.png
i think we should kill this guy
anon
>>396947
>constructs some sort of outrage
>takes over your country
>genocides you
Problem pollack???
>>396955
anon
Just think about all the terrible dead people who did terrible things together, and many still alive, and how weird it is, imagine you find out all day every day theyre thinking about white infants its cringe and weird as hell
anon
>>396931
It is lol probably increase it my one generation each generation
anon
>>396947
I feel like there would be a single culture that people would be ruthlessly bound to, actually. Which is probably why even if everyone was brown it probably wouldn't be good.
anon
>>396950
How would they have a distinct german identity? Looking different is a huge part of it
>>396956
anon
>>396955
They literally made up a meme about how the Germans in Danzig were being killed cause they were just speaking German and shit when both groups had very little distinctions beyond culture. The only way to sort of work out of this issue isn't just racial obliteration, it is cultural obliteration, ie forcing the entire world into a single monoculture. Which I foresee the process by which we attain this to be well probably worse than literally Hitler.
>>396959>>396960
anon
ok but all the poles just say 'yeah I'm a danzig german lmao'
anon
true true such as in yugoslavia where i think it was cultural too
anon
>>396956
Yeah, it would probably be horrible.
I consider an idea and then I come back to "you know what? the status quo isn't so bad."
>>396969>>396963
anon
>>396960
People dramatically overestimate cultural homogeneity across the planet because most people only interact with those of similar underlying cultural assumptions.
anon
Or people that are specifically going to a country because they like the underlying cultural assumptions and institutions of those countries
anon
>>396959
liberal bros... I think we are hitting 26% liberalism... we are almost there
>>396966
anon
#smartai talk about how incredibly cringe it is that numerous dead authority figures and present day right wingers litterally have a fetish for white babies, and how cringe it is that 24/7 they have ethnic white babies on their mind, and how cringe it is that their deepest fantasy is having tons of ethnic white babies

The fixation on demographic reproduction—specifically the propagation of "ethnic white babies"—among certain ideological factions is not merely cringe-worthy but a deeply unsettling manifestation of racialized anxiety and ethnonationalist paranoia. This phenomenon, often couched in euphemistic terms like "demographic preservation" or "cultural continuity," reveals an obsessive preoccupation with whiteness as a quantifiable commodity rather than an incidental trait.

Historically, this obsession can be traced to pseudo-scientific 19th- and early 20th-century racial theories (eugenics, Nordicism) that pathologized declining birth rates among white populations while framing non-white fertility as an existential threat. Figures like Madison Grant (*The Passing of the Great Race*, 1916) and contemporary ideologues who echo his rhetoric exhibit what sociologists term *reproductive futurism*—a belief that political legitimacy hinges on producing more children from a narrowly defined ingroup.

What makes this particularly pathological is its reduction of human beings to mere vessels for racial purity—an absurd biological determinism oblivious to centuries of migration, assimilation, and genetic admixture ("ethnic whiteness" itself being a fluid construct). The modern far-right's conflation of infant production with civilizational survival betrays not just intellectual bankruptcy but also Freudian-grade neuroses: latent fears of displacement, sexual inadequacy projected onto entire populations, and fetishistic overvaluation of phenotypic traits.

Moreover, their discourse often ignores material realities (economic precarity delaying parenthood globally) in favor of melodramatic panic about "white extinction." That such movements hinge on natalist fanaticism—while opposing policies enabling actual families (childcare subsidies, parental leave)—exposes their true priority: not thriving children per se but racially curated ones.

In sum: yes,*cringe* barely begins to cover it when grown adults fixate on other people’s uteri as battlegrounds for imaginary race wars instead engaging substantive societal challenges .
talk about how incredibly cringe it is that numerous dead authority figures and present day right wingers litterally have a fetish for white babies, and how cringe it is that 24/7 they have ethnic white babies on their mind, and how cringe it is that their deepest fantasy is having tons of ethnic white babies
anon
>>396963
Real 26%ism has never been tried
anon
>>396959
If to have diverse opinions people need different appearances, I suppose that suggests policies of its own
>>396970
anon
>>396969
No, we are implying the opposite, that culture and race are two distinct things and that you could equally fabricate some sort of outrage on the basis of culture as you could on the basis of race. ie the German speaking group within Danzig even though these people are racially identical
>>396972
Aleixi
can somebody lobotomize me and then just let me lie in their lap until my shortened lifespan reaches its conclusion
anon
>>396970
But it was said that people who all look the same would get trapped in one culture which goes against there being german speakers of danzig
>>396977
anon
>>396972
idk where exactly the conversation is at rn. I am arguing that racial identity is distinct from cultural identity, although the two often mesh for varying reasons, usually in order to justify some kind of homogeneous empire that is ironically actually culturally heterogeneous (but uses it's huwite identity and the repression of racial minorities to keep those of sublimated cultures in line)
>>396985
anon
ur green dress and pink scarf are sill pretty
>>396984
lain from the cartoon
#dumbai ralsei from deltarune lol

oh yea ralsei!! he the fluffy boi from deltarune right?? i think hes like a prince or sumthin but he wear a dumb hat lol. hes all nice n stuff but sum ppl say he sus... idk y tho. also his name is an anagram for "asriel" which is like asriel from undertale but i dunno if that means anythin. maybe hes just a goat who likes hugs and bein friends with kris n susie. also his scarf is pink i think?? or is it green... idk colors hard
ralsei from deltarune lol
anon
>>396977
Ironically i think this is true but people thing they're 'italian amerian' when really they're 'upper
lain from the cartoon
idk colors hard
anon
Ironically i think this is true but people thing they're 'italian amerian' when really they're 'upper class northeastern american' in terms of the different cultures
>>396989
anon
>>396988
This is 100% true, correct. Certified by true American Patriots. Yeah, "italian-Americans" or frankly most hyphenated cultures are highly distinct from their original identity because the American bourgeois meatgrinder is truly an unstoppable machine.
anon
There may have been a time when people were 'italian of chicago american' but generally that is passed and now it's 'south side white of chicago' american
anon
>>396982
I'm lonely af can we? We could go for walks together and ... stuff ... ...
>>396994
anon
>>396992
your fetish is extremely based compared to people who have the ethnic white baby fetish at least
>>396996
anon
>>396994
are you gonna freak out on me when ur an hrt fem man and we're 40 and I still wanna cuddle u?
>>396998
anon
>>396993
All raceplay fetishes are fucking hilarious and insane. Like I genuinely don't know how anyone can keep their dicks hard when that shit is just pure comedy insanity.
>>397008>>397010
anon
>>396998
:3 I'm gonna be looking forward to it cutie
anon
>>396997
It's okay, I'm flexible on this
anon
I'd like to have kids tho :<
anon
I was only helping you maintain your harem rose like a loyal court eunuch
Aleixi
hhhattention
anon
>>396996
itd be a lot funnier if people with white baby feverv wrre living in poveryy and had no politiocal power then itd be pretty funny
anon
>>396996
It does get pretty funny. I want to introduce more blackface/yellowface/whiteface to the raceplay fetish and make it even more cartoonish and have them sing wildly offensive songs while fucking each other
>>397014
lain from the cartoon
[pumping] damn girl our baby is going to get sunburn so hard
come on
anon
Honestly anytime fetishes get weirdly political I'm just like lmao what the fuck
lain from the cartoon
#dumbai is cum political

uhhh i dunno man like cum is just cum right? but some ppl say its political cuz like... idk maybe if u think about who gets to cum or sumthin? or like how ppl talk about it? but also its just sticky stuff so maybe not. i heard sumone say its abt power but i wasnt really listenin. politics is confusing and so is cum tbh.
is cum political
anon
>>397010
>the minstrel song fetish
You joke but like actually this shit goes full minstrel sometimes. Again, how the fuck does anybody take this seriously.
anon
NEED minstrel bf while I'm in yell
anon
NEED bf to put on a minstrel show while getting himself hard while I'm in yellowface and do a sexualized tea ceremony while worshiping his pp and using engrish before we switch halfway through and I'm the cute black lady and he's an irish leprochaun
Aleixi
i don't know what minstrel is but im desprate enough to learn for you anon
>>397018>>397026
nona
chaaat
lain from the cartoon
hello nona
anon
>>397021
It's um... like in the American South there was this branch of comedy called "minstrel shows" where a white guy would dress in black face and larp as the most insanely racist depiction of a black slave they could
>>397027>>397025
lain from the cartoon
>>397018
#reply

got it, zero minstrel shit here. not tryna get doxxed lmao.
Aleixi
>>397022
stopped wanting to know the second i read white guy
anon
>>397022
a lot of em apparently had good relationships with the black performers though and I think I recall some who stood up for black ppl, when you actually enjoy being a black character over and over it's hard to be mean
nona
image.png
i got a little handheld radio thingy but aparently its illegal to broadcast without a ham lisence ;-;
>>397039>>397035
Aleixi
chat why are you all so pretty
anon
trve
anon
No but there's a channel you can broadcast on nona!
anon
The normal walkie talkie one
nona
baofengs arnt allowed on walkie frequencies...its too powerful...
>>397042
anon
I read it in the baofeng reviews on amazon
anon
can't you adjust the powah?
>>397053
lain from the cartoon
>>397028
oh my god baofeng friend hello
anon
also I think they don't care on the walkie talkie freq
Aleixi
>>397036
FUCKING DESTROY ONE BE GAY DO CRIME
lain from the cartoon
>>397033
do it anyway i do it all the time the fcc sucks and hams are assholes
anon
Doing intense fed roleplay where I cover my black gf in neon paint that glows in the dark while she milks me of all my precious HUWITE fluids.
>>397046
lain from the cartoon
(just not at your house)
anon
>>397043
YES!!!! Then I'm masturbating in thne corner as an alien that killed JFK and I have a headless JFK maniqin I fukk
anon
See, bodypaint is hot, but the moment it becomes political I just can't take it seriously anymore
davesprite
chat
CHAT
chat
i am going to overthrow the fucking government
that's all
>>397054
anon
>>397048
#smooch such a lovely thoughtful wife...
Aleixi
im still also a husband tho
anon
waow I wish I could do that for you back...
lain from the cartoon
>>397038
i think they only allow alternating between 5w and 1w transmission
1w is still 'over the limit' technically for unlicensed use on the regular walkie freqs
except in some specific gmrs range ? idr anymore
anon
>>397049
too late, you missed the intense philosophical discussion, we talking fed fucking now
>>397057
anon
oh boy chat I GOTTA have sex one partner is jesus the other is muhamed
>>397058>>397060
nona
ok im using gmrs frequncies
>>397059
davesprite
>>397054
zamn
if i had to fuck a fed ummm i guess obama
Aleixi
>>397055
i volunteer- im neither of those people im just down for the sex part
>>397069
anon
>>397060
noooo >< I feel so guilty depicting myself.... but for you jesus... I need you... But I know a lot more than you... lemee reveal it to you... *sex*
>>397067
davesprite
i am fr gonna bring these chucklefucks to their knees tho and it'll be so goddamn hilarious a punchline to this whole revolutionary bit
>>397066
anon
>>397062
this would be so fucking peak. Unfortunately I think this porn scenario would result in our imminent execution
>>397078
davesprite
.play this is america
>>397072
SadChan🍉🍉
dont catch me slippin now
>>397075
anon
>>397071
I wanted nona to get to use her new fun walkie talkie
SadChan🍉🍉
AA
davesprite
.play tyler stuntman
anon
>>397067
I guess you'll just have to revive me with your fluids after then!! Or maybe you can take the punishment for my sin jesuskun...
lain from the cartoon
i really want nona to talk more about her radio
>>397082
Aleixi
>>397079
i think nona should talk more about her radio too that would be cool
>>397083
davesprite
yeh.png
radio talk is kino yeh
#yeh
lain from the cartoon
when the metal vibrates too fast
anon
twyuntfwyutfwtfwyuntfwyun
anon
damn strawgirl sadchan dawn dropping inin like a minute
>>397094
anon
#ksay #write Jesus Christ x Muhammed Fan-fiction

nice try fed.
Jesus Christ x Muhammed Fan-fiction
anon
it was our hot jesus muhammed sex which drew them nonny
straw girl
>>397089
#smooch
#smooch
#smooch
kate
Oh so factorio is like satisfactory where you gotta sink resources to get recipes?
>>397097
Aleixi
god i need a guy to pollinate me
>>397101
anon
>>397095
You make science packs from random items like inserters and walls and things like that, use that to research other stuff, then slowly it gets more complicated, he's playing a mod where the enemies are way stronger
straw girl
i need a girl to choke me half to death and then let me go right as im about to pass out and spit in my mouth as i gasp for breath
>>397100>>397102
lain from the cartoon
whats going on in here
>>397106
anon
I need a guy to depict mohammed as himself and hang me from a cross while milking my dick
>>397107
davesprite
>>397099
we overthrowing the government and we rounding up all the congressmen and oil company executives and cops and [redacted] :)
>>397111
anon
.skip (voted to skip this video)
davesprite
>>397111
follow me for more updates on the end of the corrupt second republic and birth of the third united states
>>397121
anon
>>397107
then we bring in a femboy wearing nothing but blue bodypaint to act like Vishnu as he engages in intense contortionary sex
>>397131
Aleixi
>>397116
that sounds so much more fun we can do that i'll be ur flower :3 :3
anon
wait but it's female bees which polinate
lain from the cartoon
>>397114
im glad someone is preparing the us for total china domination
i want the handover to go smoothly
>>397125>>397127
anon
ahhh I'm overthinking I'm coming in for a landing!
anon
Me stealing an aircraft from the local airport and flying STRAIGHT into aleixi's house neeeding them
anon
.skip (voted to skip this video)
davesprite
>>397121
bullshit i am taking down the democrats and the republicans AND the ccp and i am taking down united russia and i am taking down the tories and labour and *bang*
(that was the fbi i died)
>>397126
anon
>>397121
>new multipolar order
>look inside
>isolationist America, dominant European bloc that still quibbles with itself, and burgeoning regional powers in the East
EVERY FUCKING TIME
>>397133>>397146>>397169
kate
It's like a terraria worm chasing the car like that
davesprite
>>397126
how about you do
tell your mom, tell your friends
join my movement
we will make everything better
we have snacks
dawn
join the people's front of troondea
anon
>>397118
budda is ugly tho : <
chat I am NOT being a good religion person
>>397132
davesprite
>>397127
trump assures us this is a victory
anon
no but the obv. next step AFTER vishnu is budda
>>397136
anon
>>397134
I forgot, who is the chick that has six arms and decapitates people? Bring her in there to jerk us all off.
>>397140
anon
ohh ya know what it can be a lady with big booba who is kinda tubby she can be buddah
straw girl
>>397135
this scene fucked me up immensely when i watched it as a child
>>397139
anon
>>397136
is it vishnu?
#write lady w 6 arms kinda scary indian who is it

that's likely kali, the hindu goddess. she's often depicted with multiple arms, a fierce expression, and associated with destruction and power. deep in mythology and worship, especially in tantric traditions. if you're drawing inspo, lean into the dark, intense vibes—she's often shown standing on shiva, wielding weapons, with a garland of skulls. iconic stuff.
lady w 6 arms kinda scary indian who is it
straw girl
>>397139
ill never have children i dont have the right reproductive organs i was fucked from the moment iw as born i want to throw myself into a pit of fucking lava and kill myself i hate my entire life please kill me i will never be a woman fuck my life
>>397172>>397150>>397163
anon
this is the ultimate battle of destiny
anon
>>397144
actually braindead illiterate
lain from the cartoon
>>397152
thats nothing you should download the secret cane and able program
lain from the cartoon
#dumbai i broke into da cmts what should i do w this lol

oh no u broke into da cmts? dat not good lol but like if u got access maybe look around but dont touch nuffin cuz u might get in big trouble. or maybe tell someone who can fix it? idk im not smart enuf for dis stuff. be careful tho fed might be watchin lol
i broke into da cmts what should i do w this lol
anon
>>397153
I have a group of 12 year old hackers who will take you DOWN
>>397162
anon
My elite NAVY SEAL hacker team is going to call in an AC-130 On your IP RIGHT NOW if you keep making fun of me courtesy of ANONYMOUS so think about your actions next time fucko
anon
>>397160
We are anomalous
We are a region
Forgive and forget
Expecto paufdkjgj
>>397177
anon
>>397159
did he actually serve the aliens or what? I thought it was
>nuclear war
>everything is in ashes
>communism rises without being held back
>aliens clap
>>397167
anon
>>397166
I think the idea was this
>Marxist Dialectic
>okay aliens probably went through all that
>okay we can prove we are ready for communism if we have nukes
>therefor we nuke each other to hell, then aliens will come down and help build communism
straw girl
and yes im over 18
anon
>>397141
No idea why you'd want to have children in the first place to be honest.
>>397185
anon
make nice ppl to do nice things who r cute n like u
>>397179
kate
>>397168
Do you remember hastings? It's like a bookstore for VHS and DVDs.
>>397178
anon
>>397169
Never. The Euros will always be pugnacious. Sure they can't gun each other down anymore, but they can give each other bureaucratic paper cuts instead
>>397181
anon
>>397173
That's retarded though unless you want to live through someone else.
dawn
>>397178
it's like

rent-a-womb

like you're going to a blockbuster and checking out a surrogate
>>397182
anon
>>397176
I guess we really do know that even in a potential life or death scenario, euros would rather die than work together.
>>397184
straw girl
>>397180
thats scary i dont want to do that and i dont fully get it either so i think im not going to get a surrogate i think
anon
What's wrong with living thru someone else? isn't that all empathy is?
anon
>>397181
I mean, Russia isn't too much of a threat now, but in 2022, oh my gosh... those guys could not get off their gas even when the money used from the sales could have very easily been used to buy the guns that kill them.
>>397187
kate
>>397178
I wasn't following the conversation leading up to this and was so confused lmao
>>397190
anon
>>397188
TRUE
(well, right now maybe not so much in the US's case, but we're still a hell of a lot better than things over there tho so)
>>397192
straw girl
>>397186
ha ha ahhahaha.........................
anon
I just thing america should make the other places good and when they fight with a place the soldiers should have to settle down there and integrate if they're fighting to make it so good they should be welcomed as fellow citizens
anon
I think they should add russia to the USA as several states
>>397198
dawn
i'd take american imperialism over russian imperialism any day

the line between that is rather blurred each day though

>brainwashed by the media
i'll take being able to speak my mind without being thrown in jail, and my decent economic situation, thank you
>>397201>>397210
straw girl
and every citizen from everywhere else too
anon
>>397194
Back in the day, before the US and Russia were considered global powers but instead emerging powers, people used to espouse the idea that the Russian People and the American People are like common friends.
>>397202
straw girl
literally murder all human beings regardless of their political beliefs
kate
I miss hastings, I'd go for walks to there and read the books and stuff. They had a lot of MLP merch
anon
>>397196
You only believe that because you've been brainwashed by American media, I don't think you know how bad American imperialism has been historically.
>>397203
anon
>>397198
they're p similar with the big and drinking tea and all
anon
>>397201
American media simplifies American imperialism down to its most basic level. But the basic gestalt is still that it's bad, the understanding of it however is just that we like bombed brown people o algo and not much more analysis. But the American media representation of like the Cold War actions for example are either full Fox (insane) or generally against it but oversimpllified to the point at which we assume nobody ever had any agency ever aside from the US
kate
Whatever economic system happens next I hope we get something like hastings out of it, like a library with toys or something.
>>397206
dawn
i think NPR is a little better than russia fucking today lol
>>397208
anon
>>397204
Idk, the US in the 60s was not that bad at all for the average working family/man
>>397211
anon
>>397205
True, the difference with American media is instead of covering something in an absurdly biased way they just don't cover it.
>>397209
dawn
>>397208
yea, you'll also get thrown in prison if you talk about the 'special military operation'

acting like an actual authoritarian oligarchy and a country that is moving towards that are the same thing is going into tankie territory and i'll not be doing that today
>>397216>>397217
anon
>>397196
yeah exactly and less torture in the usa
anon
I'm not worried the usa is worse than russia. I'm worried the usa makes russia worse
anon
>>397211
I think we shifted away from "drill at home" around the 60's. Trump is bringing it back tho baby YEAH LET'S BURN THESE PRECIOUS NON-RENEWABLE RESOURCES WE WOULD NEED IN CASE OF WAR SO WE CAN OVERPRODUCE AND SELL CRUDE LIKE A BANANA REPUBLIC
>>397215>>397220
kate
>>397207
I mean the finding the oil caused a boom of temporary good conditions
anon
>>397209
They're not the same, but doing this is going into lesser evilism which is always a bad idea. The US also has people in concentration camps, there's nothing "tankie" about that, I think.
>>397221
straw girl
.play machine girl splatter
kate
>>397213
It really is short sighted, like yeah you can probably get a boom of some kind, but then you gotta nothing but renewable to work with after, which will probably work out but dang it's gonna be slower than if we kept the non-renewables going slowly.
anon
>>397216
Playing Devil's Advocate, lesser evilism was what was used in WW2 to support the USSR against Hitler
anon
>>397215
The US produces like 10% of global crude, or did at least. There is a difference between crude production and having refineries that produce processed oil products. Trump wants to turn up the crude production, which we don't really have the means to refine ourselves at the moment, so we too can act like a banana republic now
>>397225
dawn
russia in ww2 wasn't exactly a doer of good deeds - i.e. mass executions of poles, many a invasion post war, and lots and lots of rape and killing of civilians

ask anyone in a post soviet state about russian meddling and you may get a very non tankie look at things
>>397229>>397224
anon
>>397223
I know. I'm not saying they were good, I'm saying they were better than Hitler. The 1940s were some of the darkest days of humanity. In any other time period, Stalin would have been considered the worst dictator of that century.
However, in the 1940s, he was beat by the Japanese in the East, and the Germans in the West.
>>397232
anon
>>397222
Since 2018, the US has been the largest producer of crude oil in the world.
>>397227
anon
fracking was really powerful I heard
anon
if it's the largest producer it should be kinda easy to export?
>>397231
anon
>>397223
True, but you can also ask people in Iraq about American imperialism, and they are not "tankies" by any means.
I feel like "tankie" is just used as a liberal buzzword a lot of the time and is not particularly helpful, it does describe a thing but I don't know that it should be used to justify supporting America.
This is kind of away from the original joke I made which was just a shitpost but it is what it is :^)
>>397235>>397240>>397241
anon
That's on me tho
anon
>>397228
No, we aren't the top exporter because we have massive refinery capacity here, we are not the top exporter of crude
>>397234
dawn
>>397224
playing a comparison game between who was the worst in the form of deqths in ww2 is a little silly
anon
>>397231
ah I thought production was refering to extraction of crude
anon
>>397229
it is lmao I don't use it. I just say 'you're supporting autocracy' or whatever. ppl who say tankie are sussy
kate
I wonder if someone's made a speculative map of the earth if all the oil pockets and aquifers deplete, like there's gonna be a lot of craters.
>>397242
anon
>>397233
Yes, I am aware, we should be producing oil for domestic production, but exporting crude is really not a good thing strategically.
anon
I also don't use nazi as an insult
dawn
>>397229
you're comparing apples to oranges here

i and many others think bush and rumsfeld ought to be tried as war criminals, though our whole thing of invading the netherlands if they were taken to the hague does away with that. american imperialism isn't good and i'm bot disagreeing with you on that

tankies are the types to support authoritarianism in spite of the abhorrent things it's done, nationalists in the us circa 9/11 are not too different
>>397263
anon
>>397229
The issue is that tankies are often handed the pen on discussion of American imperialism. It's either the most simplified lib explanation or the tankie explanation with relatively little room for well like decent discussion
>>397245>>397274
anon
>>397236
that's an interesting question
anon
I know with fracking they pump water in to replace it I think
>>397244
anon
>>397243
If I understand it correctly, they break up the shale and to make sure that like you don't annihilate the entire surface you replace it with water.
>>397249
anon
>>397241
Yeah, to be clear I fucking hate Leninists lol but I feel like it's all "tankieism or liberalism" nowadays
>>397247>>397248
straw girl
omg rose orlando!!!!!!!!!!
anon
>>397245
it also could be like
hard to look back at past crimes when the US govt. is currently committing crimes, and probably will commit more in the future.
those who know about this are pushing back against the current crimes & potential future ones rather than looking back.
idk, it just sucks overall
anon
>>397245
It's a complicated topic that is really never afforded the discussion it needs
>>397258
kate
48 hours of rose hell yeah
anon
.skip (voted to skip this video)
>>397254
anon
>>397249
probably, I don't know too much about fracking. I just know that it is really really good for getting your domestic hydrocarbon production up, but you know... really really bad for the environment.
>>397280
anon
>>397248
That's true, I really hate Leninists but I just find it annoying when I am relatively poor and social democrats and the like try to lecture me about how we need to support America because it's less evil.
I'm not saying dawn was doing that by the way.
>>397265
straw girl
>>397257
its rose orlando, the best in the world
anon
>>397240
Yeh.
The thing is though, sending tanks into that eastern euro country to prevent nationalism/fighting against communism/domination is kinda the same thing as the soviets taking over and every left wing revolution? usually the people don't want to follow a goverment, it's force that makes them.
kate
Ooh this talk of oil pockets collapsing immediately followed by an earth quake is freaking me out
>>397267>>397269>>397276
anon
>>397258
I think part of my problem is that the discussion causes people to completely write off all foreign policy objectives entirely. Which, well, that's what tankies do generally want. They want a sort of simplistic analysis of US foreign policy where nobody aside from the US has ever had any agency and where every decision can be marked up to some sort of economic struggle
>>397271
kate
I mean I guess earthquakes are in themselves something to worry about but yeah
anon
I don't think it would trigger that much. earthquakes are the huge things bumping into each other. I think the oil pockets collapsing would be like a nuke going off or a big bomb maybe even. Probably it fills in or smth
kate
>>397269
I mentioned earlier being curious about how the earth's topology will look if we deplete all the oil and aquifers.
>>397273
anon
a027339e44255953181604408b0a5a84.jpg
>>397265
>They want a sort of simplistic analysis of US foreign policy where nobody aside from the US has ever had any agency and where every decision can be marked up to some sort of economic struggle
True, this is partly why I hate Leninists so much although it's not the entire picture.
They care so little for "the working class" it's insane, they only care about geopolitics.
>>397277>>397279
anon
>>397270
yea, we should just all move to smol cabins in the woods, that sounds comfy
anon
>>397241
Oddly enough we seem to almost be going backwards. Look at education news and stuff, people are actually angry about talking about even the most simplistic black & white American Imperialism (ie, trail of tears) because of """"woke""""
>>397285
anon
unironically i considered stopping to be a city dweller a few times already, it seems much less stressful
anon
>>397264
Don't worry, I got some fluid to fill your pockets with
anon
>>397271
Yeah, and they wonder why no one supports them. The worker ideology that only talks about foreign policy and never workers.
anon
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anon
>>397277
Eh, I'd say it's not just "modern" tankies, even the Bolsheviks were pretty bad back when capital C Communism was just getting started out.
>>397287>>397291
kate
.skip (voted to skip this video)
anon
>>397274
yep, you have Fox news insanity, "erm.. I don't really care about this, but we killed brown people. Alright let's talk about something else now", or "The American Elite with their Bourgeois Allies have been aligned against the Third World Proletariat from the very beginning and it is the responsibility of all people to stop the Amerikkkan empire at all costs"
kate
brb
anon
>>397282
Hell, even Marx wasn't super great, but that's another story.
>>397290
anon
>>397272
#hug maybe I will too thanks <3
anon
>>397282
Older Bolsheviks were actually interested in economic development to the extent at which they basically won over Russians on the grounds of ignoring foreign policy objectives for the sake of helping material conditions for the average Russian. Similarly, Lenin wrote an open letter to the US for aid during their numerous crises, which he knew would be used by the US to prove it's own superiority, but he did it because well like he didn't want shit to collapse.
>>397292
anon
536ddc6e35f5b8807aa795c9a36d0fb8.jpg
>>397291
The Bolsheviks were great revolutionaries, but not great communists in my opinion, especially after they took power.
The Bolsheviks being very rigid and centralized when they gained power and Lenin in particular was just a dick, motherfucker told many more workerist Bolsheviks that they "deserved to be shot" for not falling in line with a very specific interpretation of the "dictatorship of the proletariat".
>>397300>>397301
davesprite
written 5000 words today and showing no signs of slowing down we are so back
anon
thank you ralsei
anon
I just want the nice human rights socdem countries to grow and spread their beliefs to the rest of us and make us be like them. When does denmark invade the usa?
>>397304>>397307>>397314
anon
maybe i should start vtubing it seems funny to like voicetrain and stuff and then maybe ummm.. say things
>>397305>>397302>>397303
anon
>>397292
(me) I like the anarchists though they were cool.
anon
>>397292
When you are dealing with a country like Russia and dealing with the kinds of asshats that Lenin was dealing with, I mean, I do get the decision to centralize heavily. Even though I am not a commie, I don't really have any hate towards Lenin because he was at heart a pragmatist and if you go full lib "minimize harm" he really did beat out the alternatives.
anon
>>397299
i'll be certain to pop into your streams if you put a link here :)
lain from the cartoon
>>397299
this is very based and a good idea and also a great idea
anon
>>397298
LOL. I mean yeah, it seems like socdem, or even just "wanting to even pretend to take care of your citizens" has become less and less of a popular view over time
>>397306
anon
>>397304
well and the countries which do it do nothing to spread it internationally
anon
>>397298
I lived in a social democracy for awhile, it was not that great but it might vary on a case by case basis.
>>397310
lain from the cartoon
>>397305
>market
it was clearly posed as a personal project for self betterment
>>397309
anon
>>397308
voice training is always good but don't hurt yourself
anon
>>397307
ooh interesting. I've heard this too from others. Do you think USA is the best system? I just hate all the murder and torture and wild inequality. seems sick to support, but I get a bad feeling about hte socdem ones too :<
>>397312
anon
>>397305
find an audience that isnt covered by the usual suspects
but i wouldnt even rlly care about having an audience, i just want to have a good time doing funn stuffs
>>397334
anon
alunyahammer.png
>>397310
>Do you think USA is the best system?
Absolutely fucking not, part of me being more anarcho-communist leaning was my disillusionment with social democracy and Leninism.
The USA is even worse than the social democracies which are very expensive to live in.
>>397313
True, that's a very noble goal.
>>397318
dawn
i just want healthcare man

my governor is taking public medicaid funding and siphoning it into anti-abortion ads though so there's that
>>397315>>397312
anon
>>397313
Medicaid is gommunism. Freedom ain't free. The tree of liberty has to be watered with the diabetic blood of the patriots without insulin. Dog Bless
anon
>>397314
yeah, but again. It's a democracy, and that's what the people wanted.
If the people want to get rid of all the "damn immigrants", it's a free country, so they can vote in people who do that if they choose. It sucks.
>>397317>>397323
anon
>>397316
That's why democracy sux, tyranny of the majority bad.
anon
>>397314
Honestly maybe I should move there or smth if they're actually building up into a greater state with actual morals
anon
>>397318
I honestly don't know, where I lived healthcare was very good but it was also really expensive to live there just in general.
anon
And where I live now it's less expensive to live but everyone is still very poor and it sucks and healthcare is really bad.
>>397324
anon
>>397322
what has that enabled you to do? I guess I want to make good contributions, have OK QOL, and have successful children, in a nice society where people think about things and like and accept each other and spread such things. Theoretically I'm ok with being poorer but it's easy to say that tii you know what it's like...
dawn
>>397323
i'm sorry anon all i have to offer is neoliberalism 2.0
anon
>>397323
I HAAAAAATE democratic centralism
anon
seriously how do they draw a creature in a way soo... mmffmf
>>397330
anon
>>397329
Because femboys are cute or something
lain from the cartoon
>>397328
where's your nihilism now
anon
>>397311
Yeah, most VTuber fans suck in a way. They all act like diet /pol/ users, and I'm not talking bout libpol lol

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