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rose
>>429167
i dont use amps cos im lame lol
derrick_phone
major L
rose
anyways i should go to sleepie byes
derrick_phone
bye bye famed producer rose orlando
rose
number 1 producer of all time
rose
idk my production is a little kinda wack i think idk
derrick_phone
its true, rick ruben said so
rose
im not sure if it s rlly high quality or anything
derrick_phone
me when my friend finally sees the post i sent him
anon
we smoking shit in a glass pipe blowing the lord's bubbles
>>429181
derrick_phone
was gonna say what the post was but idk if its a safe enough space and even if you canvince me its a safe space i shall refuse to let you know to be mysterious
anon
ops wanted some initiative, so i blew up their whole quadrant. im moving like oppenheimer
rose
me when my friend finally sees the post i sent him
it is a picture of my boobs
rose
derriiiiick can u name this song for me real quick???
>>429188
rose
idk what to call it
anon
my bitch look like david hasselhoff
derrick_phone
>>429184
i spoke to him he said to call it "and then there will be dubstep"
derrick_phone
.play redoin
kate
I need to find an exe of windows movie maker I miss it
rose
maybe i should write a song where i repeat the chorus like 100 times
derrick_phone
kate i need to ask you something
kate
a?
derrick_phone
do you know the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow
kate
Nah I'd have to check the wikipedia
derrick_phone
oh ur uncultured
derrick_phone
let me guess, you also wouldnt know whats so funny about biggus dickus?
kate
Ah a monty python reference, It's been a long time since I last watched.
derrick_phone
ok thank god you had me for a sec
derrick_phone
love monty python
derrick_phone
.play the penis eek
derrick_phone
sometimes i think bullying should be condoned but then i remember that derrick would not want that
kate
.play Hearts A Mess gotyemusic
derrick_phone
gotye is awesome
derrick_phone
he is highkey a dilf
anon
yeh
kate
Garfield is a 3koma
mobilerose
whats a girl gotta do to get a guitar sponsorship?
kate
My dad tried to get one, appearently they expect ya to sell a certain number of units.
straw bury
>>429202
i love a man who is just completely drenched in piss
>>429215
anon
>>429213
girl, you needed to ask me out on a date just for help folding ur laundry??
>>429218
anon
3
anon
>>429226
I bet I could pin you down and do whatever I want with you
>>429228
straw bury
just because im short doesnt mean u can push me around
SadChan🍉🍉
i h8 u
SadChan🍉🍉
only cool people r allowed to fold my laundry
SadChan🍉🍉
like shrimp or nadia or fujo or dave sprite or straw bury or cool anons
anon
Oh my fucking god my internet dying, it kills my DMs...
anon
#smartai should a post-op trans fem diet differently and exercise differently than a pre-op trans fem?

Yes, post-operative transgender women (post-op trans femmes) may need to adjust their diet and exercise routines compared to pre-operative individuals due to physiological changes from hormone therapy and surgical interventions. Here’s a detailed breakdown of the key considerations:

### **1. Dietary Adjustments**
#### **Post-Op Considerations:**
- **Caloric Needs:** After gender-affirming surgeries (e.g., orchiectomy or vaginoplasty), metabolic rate may decrease slightly due to reduced testosterone levels. Estrogen dominance promotes fat redistribution but can also slow muscle protein synthesis, meaning caloric intake should be adjusted if weight maintenance is a priority.
- **Protein Intake:** Post-surgery recovery requires adequate protein (~1.2–1.6g per kg of body weight) for tissue repair, especially after major procedures like vaginoplasty.
- **Bone Health:** Long-term estrogen use without gonadal testosterone production increases osteoporosis risk—ensure sufficient calcium (1000–1200 mg/day) and vitamin D (600–800 IU/day).
- **Hydration & Fiber:** Vaginoplasty patients must maintain hydration and fiber intake (~25–30g/day) to avoid constipation during pelvic floor healing.

#### **Pre-Op Considerations:**
- Pre-op trans femmes on HRT still have some endogenous testosterone until surgery, so they may retain more muscle mass naturally—protein needs might remain higher than post-op counterparts.
- If pursuing feminizing fat distribution before surgery, a slight caloric surplus with strength training helps shape curves.

### **2. Exercise Modifications**
#### **Post-Op Considerations:**
- *Immediate Recovery:*
- Avoid strenuous activity for 6+ weeks post-vaginoplasty; light walking aids circulation but no heavy lifting (>10 lbs). Pelvic floor physiotherapy is often recommended later in recovery.
- *Long-Term Training:*
- Since maintaining muscle becomes harder with lower T levels, prioritize resistance training (2–3x/week full-body workouts) with moderate weights/high reps for toning rather than hypertrophy.
- Focus on gluteal activation exercises (hip thrusts, squats) since estrogen encourages fat storage in this area—enhancing feminine body contours.

#### **Pre-Op Considerations:**
- Can engage in heavier strength training if desired while balancing cardio/endurance work.
- Core/pelvic stability exercises help prepare the body for future surgeries by improving blood flow and mobility.

### **_Key Takeaways:_**
While both groups benefit from balanced nutrition tailored toward hormonal profiles:
✅ Post-op trans femmes should emphasize bone health + lean protein while adjusting workout intensity early in recovery.
✅ Pre-op individuals can focus more on shaping physique through strategic fueling before surgical changes take full effect.

Would you like specific meal plans or exercise regimens based on fitness goals?
should a post-op trans fem diet differently and exercise differently than a pre-op trans fem?
anon
#smartai are post-op trans fems immune to remasculinizing as long as they never get testosterone injections, or are there actual certain lifestyle factors I must avoid, and certain foods and such I must still always avoid to reduce the risk of masculinizing again??

Post-operative transfeminine individuals who have undergone gonadectomy (removal of the testes) and are not receiving exogenous testosterone injections will experience a near-complete elimination of endogenous testosterone production, significantly reducing the risk of systemic remasculinization. However, there are nuanced physiological and lifestyle considerations that may influence androgen activity to some degree.

### **Key Factors Affecting Androgen Activity Post-Oophorectomy:**
1. **Adrenal Androgens:**
Even after gonadal removal, the adrenal glands produce small amounts of weak androgens like dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEA-S) and androstenedione. These can peripherally convert into more potent androgens (e.g., testosterone or dihydrotestosterone [DHT]) via enzymatic processes involving 5α-reductase or aromatase—though typically at negligible levels compared to pre-op T ranges.

2. **Obesity & Aromatization:**
Higher body fat percentage correlates with increased aromatase activity, which converts adrenal-derived androstenedione into estrone rather than active T/DHT. Thus, while obesity isn't inherently masculinizing in this context, metabolic health remains important for hormonal balance.

3. **Dietary Phytoandrogens & Xenoestrogens:**
- Some foods contain phytoandrogenic compounds (e.g., saw palmetto inhibition of 5α-reductase is anti-androgenic; conversely, excessive licorice root may weakly modulate cortisol pathways).
- Soy isoflavones exhibit mixed estrogenic/anti-estrogenic effects but pose no credible remasculinization risk.
- Processed foods with endocrine-disrupting xenoestrogens (e.g., BPA) should be minimized due to broader metabolic interference rather than direct androgenicity.

4. **Exercise & Muscle Hypertrophy:**
Resistance training increases muscle mass via mechanical tension/mTOR signaling—not necessarily through elevated T in post-op trans femmes since their serum T is already suppressed (<50 ng/dL). No evidence suggests hypertrophy alone reactivates masculine features without substantial circulating androgens.

5. **Hair Loss Considerations:**
If residual DHT from adrenal precursors remains a concern for scalp hair regrowth/maintenance:
- Low-dose oral finasteride/dutasteride can further suppress 5α-reductase if needed.
- Minoxidil supports follicular health independently of hormones.

6.**Medications Impacting SHBG/Cortisol:**
Certain drugs alter sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG), indirectly affecting free hormone levels:
* Glucocorticoids → ↑cortisol → potential adrenal stimulation.
* Anticonvulsants like phenytoin ↓SHBG → theoretical ↑free estradiol/T fractionality (~clinically insignificant post-op).

### Conclusion:
In absence of exogenous testosterone supplementation after GRS/orchiectomy,**systematic remasculinzation is physiologically implausible**. Minor fluctuations from adrenals/peripheral conversion lack clinical relevance unless one has rare hyperandrogenic disorders (e.g., NCCAH).

Lifestyle optimizations focus on general wellness—maintaining lean BMI through balanced nutrition/exercise mitigates any speculative concerns about peripheral steroidogenesis far more effectively than micromanaging dietary minutiae devoidof strong evidential support .

For absolute certainty , periodic monitoring via sensitive LC-MS/MS assays measuring total/free Testosterone + DHT alongside standard feminizing HRT labs provides objective reassurance against biochemical recurrence — though such vigilance exceeds necessityfor most patients under stable regimens sans gonads .

Would you appreciate citations reviewing specific mechanisms discussed here? I maintain access endocrinology literature databases should deeper inquiry prove warranted .
are post-op trans fems immune to remasculinizing as long as they never get testosterone injections, or are there actual certain lifestyle factors I must avoid, and certain foods and such I must still always avoid to reduce the risk of masculinizing again??
anon
I am going to kill the CEO of Cox Cable
anon
>>429240
I am rarely the little spoon and it makes me sad
straw bury
hi kate
kate
Think it'd be neat if this place had a JanusXR room, and like a websurface where you could still see chat.
anon
we doing VR now
straw bury
whats janusxr
kate
It's like open source vrchat but you can make rooms using XML.
straw bury
who tf has vr
anon
I stole a VR headset from my college
straw bury
dont u need like a whole room for that
kate
IDK I haven't done it with the headset yet, just in the browser.
fujo
hiiiiiii stwaw
fujo
how is u
straw bury
hi fujo :>
straw bury
im alrite
fujo
glad to hear c:
straw bury
u?
fujo
im like a bit stressed cause im working on stuff and i gotta finish but its alright overall i think
straw bury
fujo ur so cool
straw bury
we should hug and stuff
>>429263
fujo
>>429262
ur really touch starved, aren't u
#hug
fujo
i should inject my skincare oil
straw bury
ppl inject oil?
fujo
hrt
straw bury
oh lmao
straw bury
i was about to say im glad i dont care about my hygiene
>>429270
fujo
>>429269
skincare is important you should try it
fujo
like my skin is pretty badd but
>>429273
straw bury
6710.png
my skin only serves to obscure the truth. one day the moon god rher will bless me with his terrible cancer and my true form will walk free to terrorize the innocent
>>429274>>429275
fujo
>>429272
but dont you like it when its like smooth n stuff
straw bury
my true form will have skin like sandpaper i will be able to bleed people to death just by rubbing up against them
>>429277
anon
>>429276
I think it'd be really hot if you rubbed up against me with your sandpapery skin and got me all bloody and scratchy and licked me clean after to make sure my wounds healed correctly
straw bury
my true form will exude blood from the mouth instead of saliva, as with all other bodily fluids they will all be replaced with blood. i would not be able to lick ur face clean i think and also my tongue would be made of molten bone
>>429279
anon
>>429278
oh very nice, I think you should shove your molten tongue down my throat and burn my insides while making me choke on your blood then. Platonically. No horny posting here officer.
straw bury
yeah just as homies
anon
need to fix my internet and you have distracted me!
straw bury
my true form will be able to communicate with people telepathically so that i can infect them with visions of horrible murderous gorey violent destruction. i will not need internet
>>429283
straw bury
not u tho fujo i will not obliterate u
fujo
i,i unironically have strawberry skin
straw bury
wat do u mean by that
>>429287
straw bury
oh wow thats funky
faye
leg
faye
?
fujo
yes
straw bury
nice leg fujo
faye
thats a leg
straw bury
hi faye
faye
hii
fujo
ive been told is a good pillow
straw bury
my hair is apparently pretty soft so it would be fun for u too!!!! :>
straw bury
im desperate nd easily manipulated!!!!!
>>429305
anon
>lesbian flag
It's over twinkbros...
fujo
>>429303
should manipulate you into loving yourself
fujo
you miss some of that
fujo
(you deserve it)
anon
>>429308
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP GET CONFIDENT GET CONFIDENT GET CONFIDENT GET CONFIDENT
>>429311
anon
Okay hopefully my internet works now
anon
if my internet d
anon
my fucking GOD
anon
My fuckubg internet died again and again
>>429321
straw bury
goodness gracious
anon
>>429321
You HATE to see the little guy win
SadChan🍉🍉
kamen rideer....
lain from the cell phone
HATE to see the little guy win
fine that's a stance i'm now adopting
SadChan🍉🍉
i definitely hate to see all politicians and ceos tortured and murdered
>>429326
lain from the cell phone
>>429325
this is true
#oracle ()
SadChan🍉🍉
i might have told a lie
anon
I have no clue as to whether I am being unhinged rn
>>429329
lain from the cell phone
>>429328
#8ball (maybe)
anon
eightball really not helpin
straw bury
shamelessly fishing for compliments yet again pls tell me im pretty and i will tell u that ur pretty -w-
>>429333
straw bury
>>429333
fujo ur sooooo pretty and nice ehehe
straw bury
>>429331
omg i just realized i have a fucking ahoge lmaooooo
straw bury
aaaaa ok i gotta go see u guys
anon
>>429338
Hopefully my internet will be more functional next time
straw bury
yea
fujo
byeeee <3
anon
Erm...
anon
3
kate
Good, had a bit of popcorn and milk
>>429351
anon
>>429349
mmm popcorn, I had a Reuben sandwich
anon
also very mad because my internet has been fucking up
Aleixi
i took a shrooms but i didn't feel anything an hour later so i took 3 more
>>429356
anon
>>429355
shrooms are so much fucking fun
Aleixi
it's been 3 hours i still hacen't felt anything
Aleixi
i think its my meds
Aleixi
or the fact i ate?
Aleixi
i dunno
anon
I don't think food should have some impact as far as I know, but meds maybe
anon
IDK
anon
I'm prob gonna get high tonight
Aleixi
ye
anon
>>429365
oh, you got the store bought ones
kate
>>429365
well wait until tomorrow and if it still doesn't hit try one more
Aleixi
i was gonna go a few days without my antidepressants and then try them
kate
well careful
Aleixi
im not that depressed they just kinda help with halucinations
kate
ah aight cool
anon
I see
anon
Well I'm gonna go get high
Aleixi
anywank im bored now i wanna drink
nona
me an bf just got back from adventure
Aleixi
woagh
straw bury
i nona
straw bury
*hi nona lol
nona
we got lost/stranded in fuckin indiana
Aleixi
thats a scary image
straw bury
um excuse u thats a selfie i just took
Aleixi
that's the hottest image i've ever seen- i've been stroking it to that image since before it was sent
straw bury
ur sweet
straw bury
ur voice is so pretty nona
Aleixi
i like nona voice
nona
i sound like a boy!
straw bury
i sound like a man
straw bury
well no not really my voice isnt terrible i should be more grateful
>>429397
anon
okay well both of you are wrong, you sound nice, so shush
Aleixi
>>429395
i like ur voice it's nice
straw bury
fine...............................................................................................................
kate
I always forget to convert to webm
anon
.skip (video skipped)
straw bury
listen how wierd and masculine my voice is :/
anon
414159/58
Aleixi
>>429404
woagh ur voice sos hotthhhh
straw bury
everyone fucking look at tetris the borzoi u assholes
anon
>>429404
My Paralysis demon but instead of chopping off my fingers one by one she rides my dick and chops off my fingers one by one
kate
Tetris has a towel keeping them warm aw
straw bury
afk
kate
Aw they're on key at certain points
anon
Teh Borzoi
straw bury
>>429404
i can do this way louder and my mom says i sound like a clicker from the last of us
Aleixi
i like clicker i wish i clicker trained
anon
>>429415
at one point there is like a high pitched sound that enters another frequency
anon
like my dog lifted her head up
straw bury
B)
anon
I think everybody hates the sound of their recorded voice tbh
>>429430
Aleixi
>>429424
i get off to my own audios sometimes itt gimmg drunk
anon
>>429431
You are an ironworker, so probably you got like a nice sort of like... how do I say this. Like a really I guess like industrial smell
>>429435
straw bury
>>429433
cannot have been weirder than any of the shit u have dm'd me
>>429437
straw bury
yea i kinda get wat u mean
>>429438
anon
>>429436
It's a really nice smell, like sort of gets you kind of high
>>429441
straw bury
yea lol i know i was just kidding
straw bury
just fuck off i dont like it thats not why i keep replying
anon
it's okay, we both know you like it
anon
>>429440
Every thing I say is couched in my platonic affection! I platonically want to do lewd things
anon
.play wild west wannabe jerma
nama
wild, i just bought a dsi xl to play chrono trigger
nama
wild, i just bought a dsi xl to play chrono trigger
straw bury
nama hiiiiiiiiiiiii hi nama hiiiiiiiii meowwwwwwww mrow mrow nyaaaaa
nama
hi
why are you excited to see me
weirdo
straw bury
bcuz ur pretty
nama
i'm actually with sleepy energy
>>429464
nama
me wanna cuddle
anon
literally me rn
anon
very cuddly
nama
straw burry do you prefer hay, strawberries or regular plastic straw?
:3
straw bury
erm excuse u im a pony not a horse
>>429472
nama
>>429471
small horse then = big pony
straw bury
nama will u feed me hay :>
nama
i will feed you hay with hate
you should eat better things like oats soappapaappa
straw bury
nama will u ride me
nama
it depends
straw bury
n what
straw bury
*on
nama
i prefer not to indulge in your silly folly and fantasies
>>429480
oh
I think you would suffer from back pain being a pony and all
if you were a horse...
>>429481
straw bury
riding through a grassy field as the sun sets on my back????
>>429479
straw bury
>>429482
oooooo ur contraption? tell me more :3
nama
it feeds you hay and pets you in the back while you walk in circles
>>429486
nama
bai bai
straw bury
good night nama u r so cool nyaaaa *hops up into ur lap and nuzzles ur face* mrowwwww :3
>>429491
straw bury
>>429495
nama ur so smart hehe
anon
>>429493
okay! uh when are you showing up, because i really need that right now
anon
>>429495
is chrono trigger good i never played it
anon
kfc murder chicks
straw bury
they r really funny
anon
wasn't there like a conspiracy theory or ARG thing attached to them
straw bury
rlly i had no idea
straw bury
omg u know kfc murder chicks ur so cool
anon
i have only listened to them a few times, not like regularly. then again i am the type of fag to say i love everything
straw bury
i on the other hand will proudly admit that i only listen to doom metal and grindcore
>>429509
straw bury
and i will be lying
anon
>>429507
i think that music sounds really nice, like an abrasive sponge on my brain. but sometimes i do just like sort of chill music.
>>429510
straw bury
>>429509
i like 2 listen to grindcore and more specifically goregrind as i imagine someone physically stronger than me fucking my brains out
>>429511
anon
>>429510
mmmm... that sounds nice...
straw bury
it is definitely not good for my hearing though when i spend the whole morning listening 2 really loud metal and then go practice ironworker skills at a workshop
anon
you have gotta be going through headphones like crazy
straw bury
i have had the same headphones for like 5 years now lel
anon
my earbuds always go out, tbh i am prob a bit deaf in one ear, not totally, but just muffled, used to shoot all the goddamn time
straw bury
they are falling apart tho
straw bury
wow ur cool
straw bury
wat kind of music made u deaf hehe
anon
uh shotguns prob. like the actual guns. that's prob why i got that problem. now i have to listen to music on like full blast
>>429523
straw bury
oh i never heard of them
straw bury
oh
::bleh
straw bury
.play ah, eto... bleh!
straw bury
>>429519
take me out to shoot guns sometime :3 i think guys that shoot guns are hot
>>429524
anon
>>429523
i did alot of sporting clays which is like the dorkiest kind of shooting, luckily I got back into actual pistol shooting. it's really fun
anon
>>429525
it's like they launch a clay pigeon and you shoot it with a shotgun
straw bury
hehe thats silly
anon
yeh. it's fun though because they have cool things like uh they have a station that is supposed to be like a springing teal and if you time it right you can nail both clays in one shot and that's fun
straw bury
wow u must be like a good shot
anon
my state has alot of really competitive shooters, so it keeps me humble. i am pretty good tho. really the whole sporting clays thing is also a big excuse to justify having fancy shotguns
straw bury
what kind of shotguns what makes them fancy
>>429532
anon
>>429531
uh price. also their engravings. i got a perazzi mx8 and it looks really sexy tbh. but i know people with like quarter million dollar shotguns it is insane
straw bury
engravings?
straw bury
thats cool
anon
yes, but now I can get back into rifle shooting since I just got a 130 year old mauser. chilean military surplus, very good.
straw bury
dumb question lol
straw bury
hehe
anon
being an aristocratic slut has its benefits tbh
anon
i know alot of people that are super rich. and the thing about super rich people is that they often have no concept of money. so like my perazzi i got for dirt cheap from an alcoholic guy. the chilean mauser tho, that's just standard milsurp, you can get that for super cheap normally.
anon
>>429540
military surplus, basically guns that the chilean army mothballed because they don't use century old rifles anymore
straw bury
i wish i was super rich
straw bury
well no i just wish i had a gun so i could defend myself from fuckers
anon
I wanna get a Beretta 92Fs
straw bury
what are those like
anon
if sex was a pistol, it would be a 92fs
anon
though i cannot wait, my dad has got a colt python, those things are actually so much fun to shoot
anon
literally like the smoothest thing in the world
nona
dos anyone wanna see a photo i took today...
>>429553
straw bury
yeah
straw bury
thats so pretty
straw bury
would smoke a cigarette there
straw bury
>>429549
yeah lol it looks like THE gun
anon
>>429555
would buy the shittiest cigarettes there while i am bleeding out so i can have one last smoke
>>429560
straw bury
*can
anon
sure!
straw bury
:3
anon
prob should be extra careful, but i got a gun colllection that is modest but cool
straw bury
how many guns
nona
twinkanon has guns?
anon
not including shotguns like a dozen, including shotguns a fuckload
straw bury
wait i sound like a fed lmao
nona
oh guess what chat

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