>>488256
#hug
so no drinking pls cutie

>>488258
oh yeah? how much ludwig wittgenstein have you read?

>>488260
you might feel bad tomorrow I want you to feel rested n better tomorrow

>>488262
my linguistics powerlevel is bigger then I win

like genuinely tho do u think higher education is a productive thing or not

>>488265
:3
what industry r u in r u. a smart puters person? mbe too personal :/

>>488269
lotsa my friends do that! and can’t you find that fast I think? like Amazon warehouses?

ok well im glad we clearned up that china is le evil gommunists can we go back to talking about them making comics about gay people again

>>488272
that’s great it’s on the way!!! I was scared you were in an industry where you needed some huge bullshit process to get a job and probably wouldn’t get one. based alexi!!!

>>488271
dont worry anon i will make the best comics about gay people and trannies (i can say the wowrd im one)

come to think of it why isnt this mindset more common, just make ur own representation like even stick figures can work

>>488275
i do i just enjoy media of more tha one type
im a painter im shit at coming up with stories

>>488276
I’m not wise in the ways of the world but my instinct is to contact your landlord and go ‘hey here’s the date I get hired at the Amazon warehouse and I’ll do the rental assistance thing too or idk if you have any advice’ but idk I’d be super scaredy cat too- you’re braver than me moving out!

>>488278
u could make a 4koma, that shit aint too demanding

>>488281
i find those kinda frustratingly shallow

Idk

To each their own but I've enjoyed like one or two ever and ive tried to read dozens

>>488284
which ones did you like?

I wanna make a 4koma and then see if I transition to like stuff with actual panelling

>>488286
i forget the exact title its called like "my girlfriend got amnesia" or something

and i feellike there was another but i rly cant rmemeber it

fugge i cant find it

did u ever try azumanga daioh

>>488291
>>488290
i can find it one sec

alright but imma leave soon im geting sleepy and im kinda ruining my sleep schedule for no reason >>488293

>>488294
#hug

https://mangadex.org/title/f9448f90-c068-4b6a-8c85-03d739aef255/cheerful-amnesia

Nini sweet alexi

that one

its still vry shallow but its cute for what it is

I’m optomistic for you too- for labor like that you miiight be able to literally firm handshake your way in but idk shit I’d keep up the applications and maybe look into local warehouses, I’ve heard some small businesses don’t advertise as well, but idk don’t let me distract you!!!

Idk its just annoying to read the synopsis of a manga that sounds really cool that has gender as a central theme and then u read 3 pages and it turns out oh not they are not going to have nuance in that theme, they're just going to blusgeon the main character over the head with le gender and then laugh about them being clueless every time. they arent even allowed volition in their own gender experiences they are just like, reactive

>>488301
i'll give it a look anon, and goodnight

I’ve always been tempted to try the gigs on Craigslist but never have. idk probably wise of me really need actual evidence. the best thing to have is a career with in demand skills

getting that… ehhhh

idk

but this is really good thank you so much alexi I was worry ur gonna get through this n shine

:)

how did you find your roomie btw for when I wanna move out?

mmm it’s always these kindsa connections it seems like- or maybe that’s sampling bias n I don’t notice the people who found connections in conventional ways ;)

anyway Nini <3 take care of yourself don’t get too anxious n spend a lil time resting tomorrow n time working too if you can

still think its silly to say socialism or liberalism is an all-or-nothing choice as if our main factor in surviving liberalism thus far hasn't been strong social programs which may or may not be socialist in nature depending on who you ask apparently

Or that you cant advance a liberal organization of government by adopting socialist policies piecemeal

>>488321
yeah look at finland and sweden and norway and denmark

doesnt the winning party in those places often self describe as socialists lole

i mean it's no true scotsman all the way down

I wholeheartedly believe that like 4 in every ten major industries could be collectivized tomorrow with basically no negative repurcussions

i dont care if that makes me a gomnie or a socialist or anything else. it's the right thing to do

>>488329
then why do you think i mean that when you assume im socialist (i didnt even call myself socialist(

>>488332
me neither

>>488219
this one

i didnt even say it and now im getting words put in my mouth then those words are expanded to ideoligies i dont even always have

its silly smh

>>488339
well always do you think a university is a productive enterprise

>>488342
no i just mean educating workers is that a production

does that contribute to the gdp or whatever

so its a means of production

that has been collectivized....

but its not socialism because we dont have a socialism here this is U !! ESS!!! AY

thats mywhole point xD im done now sorry

thats just trade unionism

syndicalism

pretty sure thats a different one from socialism because its supposed to be out of the hands of the govt or at least decentralized from it

idk i think all the words are fake

yeah but more fake than all the other fake words

yes it does

no, money is fake but its a lot more real than like. global market depreciation (???) or like every country being in debt

Theres levels of fakeness

>>488364
yes it is

be so fr

>>488366
green linnen

lea spotted...

leaf

money is real cause we say its real which is not a real justification so its fake

but its a lot more real than other social constructs like the word socialism

if we cant agree on a definition even then its especially fake

at least we can agree on a definition of money in all but the most edge cases

>>488380
trading lubricant

generally no

Money is abstracted value

>>488390
well thats a fiat currency

they can be backed by orher stuff too

but yeah i mean this is all edge cases right

thats my whole point, if i pull out a $10 bill and say "is this money" in a room of a thousand people, nearly a thousand are sayig yes

if i pull out a policy bill in the room of a thousand people and say "is this socialism" theres literally no bill to ever exist that would get more than like 700 people to agree

so socialism is an extra fake word

simple as

>>488394
i think theres still some gold backed currencies

maybe not tho idk

>>488403
right and socialism is a patently undefiniable word in this country (sorry u count as being part of this country you are our hat)

#count

but i mean this all boils down to the original deb8 which is "stop blaming capitalism when ur ideals are worse" or something like that

or when "you wanna do a socialism"

>>488412
did they lie tho

whats wrong with that stance

no but would you force every palestinian to scream I CONDEMN HAMAS before you give them fucking rice and beans to not starve to death

Moral policing an underdog in an imperialist power struggle is a lil cringe

you take what you can get if youre the subject to all that

but then why are u argung with the first anon im so confuseddded

>>488422
i mean the vast majority of developing nations with terrible governance have that governance because of US meddling, more often than not direct meddling

>>488425
but i mean thats true for Anybody no? its just nuance?

you shouldnt accept anything at all uncritically

government or leader or ideology

but you can support the overall trend of anti-usa sentiment without cosigning every single act thats in the name of that

>>488431
no but they are largely responses to the status quo

and the us is the determiner of status quo for closing in on a century now

it's not necessarily

Enemy of my enemy is my friend can hold up even if the friendenemy is worse. they just have to not be strong enough to take over afterwards

>>488437
none but at least collapse gives us a chance at change whereas calcification does not

we're in a bad spot, dramatic change maybe helps and maybe hurts. but if we stay the course and don't change we *will* die

>>488440
idk i think it looks that way bc of us hedgemony, basicallt every power whos antagonistic to us was to some extent established by the usa intentionally to replace their further left predecessors

>>488445
my point is that the actual human sentiment in the world is a LOT further left than the institutional sentiment because every significantly leftist institution is in ruins due to the USA

I think for every weird far right movement there's an extremely far left movement as well thats equally or better represented but has worse presence and resources because it has less institutional backing => therefore collapse evens the playing field

i still think its best to be avoided and changed without violence but if the alternative is burning to death so oil bros can fuck hookers and snort coke on yachts then. it is what it is

are u an oil rig worker

>>488452
oh lmao

>>488450
neither am i

But, rock and a hard place

>>488457
yeah same

and at the end of the day its not up to us

its everyone or noone

>>488461
ong

>>488464
liberalism is whatever you want it to be ;)

idk if we even have liberalism anymore isnt the whole core idea social liberation and democracy? we're losing them by the second

i thought it was all based on the french revolution which was like an inextricable combination of the two

wdym

I guess so but i also think fundementally everyone is okay with some people.not having rights eg criminals

i mean i also dont think rights are an all or nothing thing

everyone should have freedom of movement except the people who use that freedom of movement to go do a serial killing or something ya know?

but i do get the point yeah i get what ur getting at

i fear we are stumbling into heroin pleasure cube territory

how do you define "helping humans" and "human happiness" in a way that isnt broken by le pleasure cube

if everything is in service of human advancement then what is human advancement => better lives, what's better mean? more satisfaction and happiness, => pleasure cube

i mean i think its both a semantic/philosophical problem, *and* a tangible one

if you truly want a government that supports the people you do need to define some of these things in order to make value judgements that are unavoidable for the government to make

the pleasure cube is just a reducto ad absurdum

but it's like a real point, what does it mean to advance human success and how do you value some things over others? because there arent any clear lines in the sand to draw

For instance if 60% of society votes for homosexuality to be banned and you say no sorry, in advancement of generalized human happiness this policy won't happen, thats valuing some people's freedom/etc. over other's satisfaction with government. you actually have to pick an allowed conversion ratio for that because the question of whether a violent/murderous person should be allowed in society is on the same axis, you have to either value that person's lived experience or the intangible desires of many

But what else can there be, autocracy or absolute democracy just dont work for different reasons

there is no good form of government

but you gotta pick *something*

holy shit, the israel defense something somethings shot at diplomants from europe just now

i do think any really advanced ai would be benevolent

i think minimizing human suffering is the materially efficient thing to do for basically any goal so anything that smart would protect humans

>>488507
wasn't that like 3 days ago

>>488448
i do kinda think china would be

as repressive as they are at home they're not really into the cultural hedgemony thing in the same way the US is

>>488514
omg literally me

>>488516
? didn’t they literally put uigers in camps to make them culturally homogenous

>>488328
hmmmm interesting. i do think there’s value in certain industries being nationalized, specifically ones where there’s no innovation to be had like internet is a good example, kinda, where it’s so necessary and so monopolized

so we should give them a pass because they were bad at it? lol

i feel like this standard would not be applied to the US if they did what china did lol “no they didn’t genoixde the natives a lot of them still speak their language on their own land and practice their own culture somewhat”

>>488517
You don't look like that

i love china tho don’t get me wrong

they’re just like the US, not perfect but good people

>>488523
>native
its so crazy how i spent most of my life not understanding some of the most basic things, and like a lot of people either didnt know or didnt want to know... ie, the reason why there's still white people or at the very least why there's still so many white people even though they are a minority, is basically because white men have been forcing white women to reproduce with them and not allowing them under any circumstances to reproduce with any other men.

its just so fucking weird to think about yet we know it's all true, there's a significant amount of heterosexual white men whose deepest fear is being sexually abandoned by white women especially when it comes to sexual reproduction, it might not be the majority of hetero white men but its a significant amount and still way too many.

bro what are u talking about

why did you ping my message to say that lol

>>488533
because the subject of racism was brought up and theres a lot of racist stuff going on right now

i really don’t think native american is a race really

it’s ….. more complicated than that

>>488536
well theyre a cultural group and your definitely right they're not a race perse, far north natives are different from north natives who are different from south american natives, and also interestingly a lot of south american natives have australasian ancestry but this is almost unheard of in north american natives, so theres definitely no homogeneous native american race or whatever, and its way more a culture than a race, many cultures

well no really they’re like hundreds of different cultural groups

yah u get it

>>488541
sadchan stop simping for china

they are just america but red the only reason people like them is bc their worldview ends at “america le bad”

>>488541
If history was less violent and less coercive, white people probably would not be as much of a majority as they are now in the usa, i mean maybe ethnic whites would likely still exist either way, but my point is... Basically I think forcing white women to have white children is fucked up and its happened a lot.

like i love china because the culture is really cool and it’s basically just the US but in asia which is cool

s that white women are BRIBED to have children instead of forced, or do you think white women are just as likely to be desperate for white children as white men? >>488552

do ytou think that*

i disagree i think if you look at chinese culture it is very similar to american culture

like i’m not even joking

>>488556
you mean make them more "attractive" by giving them the phenotypes most common in white people?

>>488558
i disagree i think it appears on its face to be the opposite but i think it is very similar

oh i’m dumb

>>488561
that might be true to some extent sadchan, but would you at least agree that white men have in recent history forced themselves on other ethnic groups while only allowing white women to reproduce with white men????

>>488564
I am just saying Sadchan, because I have read over and over again that white men did not usually allow native american men or black slave descendants to get white women pregnant, like there was an aspect of coercion common in history is all i am saying

>>488566
I mean, there WERE white women who only wanted children not from white men and these women were usually not allowed that or punished for it or the children harmed or killed

I mean, particularly in the recent past

>>488573
>>488572
ahh i see i see, so you definitely agree there's an element of coercion in recent history, you just don't think it would change demographics much

>>488575You would have t ogo earlier than the 1950s to changr that outcome

>>488577
how do you know were you there?

if at all

if i wasn’t there it didn’t happen ::nod

I mean to be totally fair... I think the whole element of coerced eugenics or dysgenics predates the usa by quite a bit, it was, well some time after, white people became white people whenever that was, a fair amount of them were crazy overprotective of maintaining their superficial features through children and grandchildren.

SADCHAN MY POWR IS OUTTTTTTTTTTT

help

i’m so bored

>>488592
yeah but were you physically present in any of those examples how did you know they weren’t just made up

>>488595
why nottttt

how can we know anything if we were not there

>>488599
I mean, I think when the pale skin+blonde hair+blue eye+lactase persistence became common in europe, a lot of white people were super sentimental about these traits and scared of them becoming less common in the future... Then like, people who had all those combined traits, had a really strong desire to have children who had these traits, and these people, like, they became scared of reproducing with their non-ethnic white neighbors, and scared of their non-white neighbors possibly reproducing more than them

Although I think this issue of this type of racism again predates the usa and likely started in europe

wow okay so you won’t respond to the fun “how can you know what’s real” but you’ll respond to the race guy >.< i see how it is

>>488603
I mean I'm not trying to imply something you have no control over makes you bad, just that the usa is having major race problems right now, with racially motivated deportations and importing white south african farmers

>>488606
i think ur cute…..

>>488612
Honestly Sadchan I think the biggest race problem with white people is how white people liver over a much larger geographical radius than most ethnic groups basically and that combined with average monetary inequality and political control

>>488616
tea sadchan hates me for being fun

>>488620
.... maybe??? my point is just that, there is a global power imbalance racially speaking right now, and to be totally honest sadchan, Africa does have a lower population than both Asia and the Americas, so from that perspectivre well, while theres a lot of Africans, Africa isn't as populated as the two American continents or Eurasia

>>488620
china is literally a billion people lol

>>488622
ikkkkkkkkkkkjkjkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

my power is still out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

life is also good

>>488629
wait ur racist?

prove it

>>488636
no I mean if you combine north america and south america

>>488636
.play africa by toto

>>488647
source this claim

>>488661
SOURCE. THIS. CLAIM.

>>488663
based and true

>>488668
#slap