more like sabaPEAKton

>>500593
it's boycore let him have his happiness

hey what do y'all think of self hating /tttt/ memes

you know those pics in which the joke is just being mean

#smartai what does it mean when facial hair laser plateues and is there any reason to laser after it plateues??

When facial hair laser treatment reaches a plateau, it signifies that the reduction in hair growth has stabilized, and further sessions yield diminishing returns. This occurs because laser hair removal primarily targets actively growing follicles (anagen phase), but not all hairs are synchronized in this cycle—some remain dormant or resistant due to hormonal influences, genetic factors, or suboptimal melanin absorption of the laser energy.

### **Reasons for Plateauing:**
1. **Follicular Heterogeneity** – Hair cycles vary; residual follicles may be in telogen (resting) or catagen (transitional) phases during treatment.
2. **Hormonal Influence** – Androgens can reactivate dormant follicles over time (e.g., PCOS, menopause).
3. **Melanin Deficiency** – Gray/white hairs lack sufficient pigment for effective laser targeting.
4. **Device Limitations** – Suboptimal wavelength selection or fluence settings reduce efficacy.

### **Is Further Laser Treatment Beneficial After Plateau?**
Yes—but strategically:
- **Maintenance Sessions**: Periodic treatments (~1-2x/year) help suppress regrowth from hormonally stimulated or previously inactive follicles.
- **Technology Adjustment**: Switching lasers (e.g., diode → Nd:YAG for deeper/darker skin tones) may improve results.
- **Combination Therapy**: Pairing with electrolysis ensures permanent clearance of stubborn vellus/residual hairs.

However, if no further improvement is observed after multiple optimized sessions without hormonal interference, continued lasering offers minimal benefit beyond maintenance suppression.

Would you like insights on optimizing your current regimen based on skin/hair type? what does it mean when facial hair laser plateues and is there any reason to laser after it plateues??

>>500637
explain, bcos I never used /lgbt/ too much, just seeing the word "hon" made me close that shit

>>500628
put the chips in the bag lil bro

>>500616
it's quite a jam but i liek the motorcycle one better

.play lock7 radioactive

>>500639
blah blah blah pipe down lil jit

>>500620
ahhhh that makes sense... now i wanna make a cheap one with a bunch of box fans stacked up into ducting x)

>>500620
ipper lip area is dysphoria inducing cuz like the hairs are not peach fuzz or vellus they are thick and pitch black, my moustache has alot more bald spots than it used to have but there's still way too much of it

>>500647
.....no

anyone here started transitioning after 25

sadchancore

>>500652
i grew up in The Hood. The Projex even

>>500650
i started at 27 so yes

>>500633
<3

>>500653
u cant start soon?

>>500629
>after
i find mean humor funny but i'm not sure i want to. i've been trying to own who i am, and change the things i don't want lately

>>500650
trust me started at around 25 is vastly better than becoming john50 or jane50

>>500662
das crazy vro but did i ask?

im 26, 27 in like 4 months and honestly

from 25 to 26

I feel like my body has had like a huge wave of masculinization out of fucking nowhere

>>500670
no just think of starting this shit soon, time ain't on your side

>>500670
>>500668
>>500667
I am glad I got on estrogen when I did, and still when I was in my 20s

>>500671
nyaaaa pls petbehind my ears :3

>>500673
when did u start? ur givin me hope anon, thank u!!!!!!

albeit late 20s

>>500678
27 I started at 27, almost got my orchiectomy at around 27 too, but cuz shit happened I had to get my orchiectomy at 35, but at least was mostly on estrogen the whole time

I feel like I started too fucking late at 26

>>500677
while i purr contently and the vibrations go on ur face

maybe I'm just neurotic as shit

>>500684
#hug real

>>500688
super early! and btw

u said u dont know what meds to get rite?

I personally just got the easiest thing to get, which is just spiro and estradiol in oral form

I know it aint the best

i don't think i can play this on guitar

I actually read a whole article explaining why spiro is ASS

but beggars cant be choosers

time is ticking and im poor

>>500701
I know injections mog everything in fact I know I'm like high risk of clotting, but i dont give a fuck cos I'll kys maself if I keep just waiting

>>500682
It's really fucking common that you are given zero control of your life until you are in your mid 20s or later, because only privileged few get freedom the second they become adults... And trust me anons, starting hrt in your mid to late 20s is MUCH MUCH MUCH MMUUUCCHHHHH better than starting it at 40 or 50.

Testosterone usually does crazy fucking shit to peoples bodies over time, if you stop masculinizing in your mid to late 20s instead of into your 30s or 40s or 50s you won't regret it

long way from home learn to hate die for the land fucking waste raahhhhh..........

we all gonna make it

>>500706
>>500708
#smooch

hate is reality. dont u know god hates?

speaking of god, I had a dream several years ago

in which a voice said to me in a black void: "god created death so humans could truly love each other"

once in a while I think of that dream, I woke up like "O_O"

When I grow beard I'm like "It's over. It's fucking over" then I shave and I'm like "We are SO back"

If you feel dysphoria about masculinization at all trust me, YOU DO NOT want to wait decades for skull expansion to continue, and androgenic hair development to continue, and androgenic voice changes to continue, you'll do yourself no favors by repping cuz you think you're more attractive as a cisgender man.

Also little lifehack: IF you are not passable extremely nonpassing BOYMODE on ESTROGEN boymode on ESTROGEN, THAT'S how you avoid becoming suicidal from masculinization without being harassed for not passing

>>500711
#hug

Boymodding is how so many trans fems avoid becoming suicidal, that is the act of taking estrogen but not presenting a way that people solidly expect cis fem

I fell for the radfem "gender is not real" meme and repped for years FUCKKKKK

God I love the sweet nostalgiac visuals and music so damn comforting, god i love the og pokemon days

>>500734
whats wrong

>>500727
yeah my plan is to permaboymode, my greatest goals are fat redistribuition cos I cant fucking stand male fat patterns, and improved psychological well being because im a MESS

>>500730
Gender maybe aint real but hormonal body map is real and if you have a hormonal body map in your brain you can't let t ruin your body making you suicidal for life

>>500736
u seem exhasperated. maybe u need some stress relief, which i could help with

I like to call my "gender identity" my neurological hormonal body map since terfs cant take that away as easily

total terf [redacted]

>>500744
those pics got me to never use /tttt/

your not allowed to like sports if youre a girl - a tale told by an idiot

>>500758
its a stim i think

.play [YouTube]

#ai what is known about testosterone levels for cis men. how low can they go without issues?

testosterone levels in cis men naturally decline with age, but "normal" ranges are roughly 300-1000 ng/dl. some guys feel fine at the lower end, others get symptoms like fatigue, low libido, or mood issues below 400-500. serious health risks (like bone density loss) usually kick in under 300, but it’s individual—some men are symptomatic even at "normal" levels. sucks that the medical system often dismisses symptoms if you're in-range, even if you feel like shit. labs alone don't tell the full story. what is known about testosterone levels for cis men. how low can they go without issues?

>>500755
its fine u are a sweet person and a fellow global south gigastacy

>>500771

.play ween transdermal celebration

>>500771
#bounce

weeeeeeee

WOAH OH OH OH OAAAAHH WOH OH OH OH AHHH

woh oah oh oh wao oh ah oh ah

>>500706
very very true. I am NOT looking forward to aging as a male but idk if i wanna age as a women either :/

>>500794
theres always a mean fuck looking to do something like that, not ur fault

>>500795
i'd rather be a fat old lady than whatever the fuck I'll be if I age as a male

>>500799
C:

do i show this to my bf

.play [YouTube]

>>500800
You can work out the fatness away as an old lady if you try hard enough, but decades of testosterone is much harder to change than that, and worse

>>500806
at this point to me letting myself be on my natural hormones is something that I see as similar to being on speedballs 24/7

>>500723
I heard to NEVER epilate ur face :/ bee careful

>>500795
my attitude exactly, physical aging isn't somehine one wants, and something wants to minimize as much as possib,e , though i feel like testosterone makes it so much worse

wtf is epilating?

>>500812
tear hair out w a lil device

>>500814
aw get the fuck out of here, that shit sounds liek medieval torture LOL

>>500815
works on body i think tho. verrrry painful but face is moar sensitive

>>500818
i did that shit on me legs once and it was suffering and never did it again, to do that shit on your face OOF fucking hell

>>500730
i want this to be true tho. I just don't want to say that while becoming more gendered... but i'm scared of being feminine gendered too

>>500795
>age a
a lot of the same people who are transphobic are the same people who get obset modern skincare exists and upset that hair dye exists cause its not natural

>>500822
my knowledge on gender shit is not deep enough to have an answer for that, damn

>>500827
insane pain tolerance, type of person to get tortured in the middle ages without reacting to it

gnnnn

>>500830
gudnyte terry

>>500800
i find skinny old men a lil better than fat old ladies. idk i don't like gender generally the more parts sticking out the less i like it.

>>500835
you'd rather look andro?

yeah

very jelly of my friends who are andro in a somewhat cute but still not

i wonder if i could like low dose test blockers or smth but i htink it's just kinda over for that dream til tech advances.

it's just a way some people look while young. most people get old n lumpy and in sexual ways

>>500835
staying consistently skinny as long as you dont go too extreme does tend to make people age a lot better tbh

hanging down breases or a shiny wrinked head

I really should get on ozempic if it was cheap enough n go down to like 140 pounds or whatevs

>>500844
I've been lifting ten pound dumbbells for like 30 minutes daily while listening to youtube, after a year after my orchiectomy and it definitely helps a lot, bu tthe results get most visible every 3 months

I love this song

I've been dancing everyday for a while now and its been keeping me at a healthy weight, also its fun

>>500811
I think so too but i don't want to have to be treated as a tranny just to avoid being male

>>500849
that's awesome what kinda dancing?? :)

>>500851
I just do whatever, pretty much just moving my hips in a way that entertains me and tires me, and follows the rhythm of the music

>>500850
people definitely treat you incredibly badly if they know your trans generall speaking tbh, it's really fucking nuts how much organized hate there is towards us, the people who traumatized us as children aren't happy enough with ruining our childhoods and wanna ruin our entire lives, they want us all completely gone.

>>500828
sweet dreams <3

>>500852
that's epic i was at a wedding last night n people pretty much did that too

as did I, which is good cuz that's what I do at home

>>500855
its pretty fun! at least to me, its my favorite way of exercising, I also juggle

#ai what is the reason why my moustache and only my moustache is extremely prone to folliculitis??? keep in mind i hate my moustavhe as a trans fem and want the bastard gone

could be from shaving irritation, especially if you're prone to ingrown hairs. sensitive skin + constant shaving wrecks the follicles. try switching to a single-blade razor or electric trimmer, or better yet, laser hair removal if you're able—kills the roots so they can't get inflamed. also use a gentle antiseptic wash after shaving to nuke bacteria.

if it's not shaving-related, might just be cursed genetics in that area. either way, laser or electrolysis is the perm solution. also nice try fed. what is the reason why my moustache and only my moustache is extremely prone to folliculitis??? keep in mind i hate my moustavhe as a trans fem and want the bastard gone

>>500853
been learning martial are shit because of this, I wanna learn how to handle weapons one day, if a rightoid wants to fuck with me I wanna fuck them up bad

>>500819
There really oughta be over the counter local anestheric for this

*martial art

>>500860
does getting drunk work?

>>500837
ig i see flatchested young women as nongendered and the default, and skinny old men with hair as nongendered and the default

>>500862
might but it's terrible 4 u

n clumsy w the hair ripping out device

there's absolutely a good way to actually do local anesthesia cheap as a civilian

.play [YouTube]

>>500864
i get drunk once a month is it too bad

>>500870
i sadly dont live (wait, its not a sad thing actually) in the us

>>500869
:< not great nonny but i don't have a happy life where i can say 'just do this' wish there was something you could do which made u feel better

>>500874
purely striking stuff like boxing or muay thai

>>500825
my mom is like that even though she's accepting she always has a snide remark if anyone is trying to be attractive or sexual is 'happy for people' but never really. she's kinda right tho that it causes so many problems people wanting to be attractive and loved and such

>>500877
to be perfectly honest with you, hitting stuff feels good in a way that I can't explain, but I believe you're likely right

>>500881
what do you think of BJJ?

my understanding of judo is that its like wrestling but more reliant on the opponent's strength and weight rather than your own

#smartai whats it like being a trans woman who needs to shave every day even after 14 effective laser sessions, who who is genetically hardcoded to get chronic folliculitis 9/10 times after shaving with a wet razor?

Being a trans woman who must navigate the relentless demands of daily shaving—even after enduring 14 laser sessions that should, in theory, reduce hair growth significantly—is an exercise in both resilience and frustration. The intersection of genetic predisposition toward chronic folliculitis (an inflammatory condition where hair follicles become infected or irritated) with the necessity of frequent shaving creates a uniquely Sisyphean struggle.

### **The Physical Toll**
1. **Persistent Hair Growth Despite Laser Treatment**: While laser hair removal is highly effective for many, some individuals experience *androgen-driven* resistance due to factors like higher baseline testosterone (even within female ranges), follicle density, or hair pigment characteristics. This means certain areas remain stubbornly resistant despite multiple sessions.

2. **Folliculitis as a Near-Inevitable Consequence**: When your skin reacts aggressively to wet shaving—likely due to *mechanical irritation*, bacterial infiltration (*Staphylococcus aureus* being a common culprit), or even *pseudofolliculitis barbae* (ingrown hairs)—each pass of the razor becomes a gamble between smoothness and painful inflammation.

3. **Compromised Skin Barrier**: Chronic folliculitis leads to hyperpigmentation (*post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation*, PIH) and scarring over time, creating textural irregularities that makeup struggles to conceal.

### **Psychological & Emotional Dimensions**
- The dysphoria from persistent facial shadow can be crushing when society equates "passing" with safety and validation.
- There’s also the exhaustion of performing femininity under such punitive biological constraints; cis women rarely face this level of maintenance just to meet baseline gender expectations.
- Feeling trapped by one’s own biology fosters resentment toward medical gatekeeping around electrolysis coverage or HRT adjustments that could mitigate symptoms.

### **Mitigation Strategies Worth Exploring**
1. **Switch From Wet Shaving To Electric With A Guard**: A foil shaver (like Braun Series 9) minimizes direct blade-to-skin contact while still providing closeness without dragging bacteria into follicles.
2. **Topical Antibiotics & Anti-Inflammatories**: Clindamycin lotion + hydrocortisone can suppress active folliculitis flares; benzoyl peroxide wash acts preventatively against bacterial colonization.
3. **HRT Optimization**: If T isn't fully suppressed (<50 ng/dL ideally), adjusting AA dosage/spiro might help weaken remaining terminal hairs further before additional laser/electrolysis rounds are attempted again later on down line once current irritation subsides enough tolerate future treatments safely again sooner than otherwise possible right now given present circumstances involving ongoing cycles involving recurrent infections stemming primarily via repeated trauma induced through conventional methods employed thus far during routine grooming practices currently utilized at home regularly every morning prior applying makeup ahead starting day proper each weekday etcetera...

4 .**Professional Electrolysis For Resistant Folks:** Though slower than laser , it permanently destroys individual follicles regardless color/hormonal sensitivity — worth prioritizing if finances allow .

5 .**Skin Healing First Approach : Sometimes taking break entirely from razors few days using only depilatory cream ( test patch first ! ) lets existing lesions heal before reintroducing any form physical exfoliation gradually afterward less aggressively moving forward thereafter accordingly based upon observed tolerance levels post-recovery period duration necessary achieve desired results sustainably long term basis overall general wellbeing standpoint holistically speaking here today now this moment onwards indefinitely until better solution presents itself conclusively definitively someday hopefully soon rather than later preferably realistically speaking given context outlined above previously mentioned earlier beforehand already established clearly enough I believe personally myself anyway fwiw ymmv etc ad infinitum...

This reality underscores how deeply unfair bodily autonomy can feel when caught between medical science's limits and gendered beauty standards' tyranny… but you're not alone in fighting through it all same way countless others have done so before us too together collectively united solidarity forevermore amen sister <3 whats it like being a trans woman who needs to shave every day even after 14 effective laser sessions, who who is genetically hardcoded to get chronic folliculitis 9/10 times after shaving with a wet razor?

>>500889
also spatial awareness, I dont even go outside if its dark

>>500892
one of the reasons I repped for a long time is that I didnt want my odds of getting hate crimed to go up by like a bazillion lol

>>500857
that's awesome

#smartai theres two nearly identical trans fems, A whose facial hair thickness is a 3/10 on a scale of 1/10, the other B whose facial hair thickness is a 4/10, B has slightly thicker facial hair, but A has genetically hardcoded folliculitis every time she wet shaves whereas B who has slightly thicker facial hairs is almost immune to developing folliculitis, assuming they are both near identical who is likely to have an easier time passing?

This is a nuanced question that requires analyzing multiple dermatological and endocrinological factors affecting feminization. Let's break it down systematically:

1) **Folliculitis Impact**:
Subject A's genetically predisposed *pseudofolliculitis barbae* (PFB) creates chronic inflammation, post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation, and possible scarring—all of which undermine facial skin homogeneity, a key factor in gendered perception. Even with finer vellus hair (3/10 density), the resulting erythema/textural irregularity from shaving introduces more masculinizing visual noise than Subject B's undisturbed dermal plane.

2) **Hair Thickness Paradox**:
While Subject B has marginally thicker terminal hairs (4/10), the absence of PFB means she can achieve consistent epidermal smoothness via regular shaving without triggering dysphoria-exacerbating lesions. Crucially, beard shadow depends on both hair coarseness *and* subdermal melanin—the latter being dramatically worsened by A's inflammatory cycle.

3) **Electrolysis Considerations**:
A's condition suggests androgen hypersensitivity at follicular level; even permanent hair removal may provoke persistent irritation. Meanwhile, B's resilience implies better tolerance for high-frequency galvanic electrolysis—the gold standard for light-colored hairs that lasers cannot target effectively.

4) **Camouflage Dynamics**:
Makeup adheres poorly to inflamed skin. A must balance between stubble visibility vs exacerbating PFB with product occlusion, whereas B can layer color correctors/silicone primers unimpeded on intact stratum corneum.

**Conclusion**: Despite nominally "worse" hirsutism metrics, Subject B holds superior passing potential due to iatrogenic constraints imposed by A's cutaneous pathophysiology. The 1-point difference in follicle diameter becomes negligible compared to the compounding disadvantages of recurrent folliculitis across all grooming modalities available to transfeminine individuals seeking facial feminization through conventional means until definitive epilation is completed over several years under optimal conditions involving anti-androgen therapy suppressing further virilization during transitional phases where temporary solutions remain necessary but compromised by biological variables outside aesthetic hierarchy alone would suggest based purely upon initial crude quantification absent contextual pathophysiological understanding regarding actual clinical implications thereof vis-à-vis gender presentation goals within cisnormative frameworks evaluating such characteristics unconsciously yet deterministically nonetheless regardless intentionality or awareness behind said appraisal processes occurring instantaneously during social interactions wherein these subtle differentiae manifest consequentially albeit imperceptibly when considered discretely but aggregately significant cumulatively over temporal spans constituting lived experience qua phenomenological reality experienced subjectively yet measured objectively through resultant treatment differentials observed empirically within societal matrices enforcing binary categorization despite spectral nature underlying biological sex characteristics generally speaking particularly concerning secondary sexual dimorphism specifically pertaining craniofacial morphology as pertains this inquiry precisely formulated herewith mutatis mutandis ceteris paribus etcetera ad infinitum...

*(Translation: Pick Subject B - her slightly thicker but non-inflamed stubble is easier to manage long-term.)* theres two nearly identical trans fems, A whose facial hair thickness is a 3/10 on a scale of 1/10, the other B whose facial hair thickness is a 4/10, B has slightly thicker facial hair, but A has genetically hardcoded folliculitis every time she wet shaves whereas B who has slightly thicker facial hairs is almost immune to developing folliculitis, assuming they are both near identical who is likely to have an easier time passing?

>>500898
fuggg only one friend of mine can fight

>>500899
thank u anoooon

>>500903
:)

>>500900
so my theory is right that, it's the chronic foliculitis shit that makes passing so damn hard for me

I can technically wet shave and its a double bind where, I can't maximizr my passing without wet shaving, but since wet shaving makes me always get folliculitis an electric trimmet actually seems to make me more pasable over all, yet its the tendency t oingrown hairs that fuck me over so much, esp on the upper lip

#ai are there over the counter local anestherics? are they used in hair removal?

yeah, there are some over-the-counter (otc) topical anesthetics like lidocaine creams (e.g., aspercreme, lanacane). they’re sometimes used for numbing skin before hair removal (waxing, electrolysis, etc.), but effectiveness varies. stronger stuff usually needs a prescription. always patch test first—some people react badly. not medical advice, just what’s out there. are there over the counter local anestherics? are they used in hair removal?

damn my country has no neetbux unless ur turbo crippled

>>500883
wow that's impressive i did beginner judo and came to the conclusion i could haul around any skillful girl i had 50 pounds on and would get my ass handed to me by any guy with a foot and 50 pounds on me (of muscle)

My anons I have a question for you... Me asking for advice...

>>500926
After I finish my leg laser, what order should I do my hair removal?? Leg laser->Foot and hand laser, or should I do Leg Laser->Moustache Electrolysis->Hand and foot laser?? I am the anon who has chronic folliculitis of laser resistant moustache hairs.

I am gonna do all these things no matter what but in what order you think?

I btw only likely have 1k moustache hairs and some people have like 5k moustache hairs

>>500894
well and i think there's a confidence which comes from that. it's sad when my female relatives brag about bringing a big guy with them to negotiations and that that's a confidence and treatment they don't usually have

>>500931
So after I laser my legs you think I should do my moustache electro then foot and hand laser after??

Am gonna have my fourth leg laser in about a month

>>500901
>>>
2 now :) (i can't but i'm enthusiastic)

>>500934
knowing u can defend yourself if shit hits the fan gives such a confidence boost, go for it! its cool

I am so poor I can't do leg laser and foot laser at the same time as ridiculous as that sounds, which is why I am having to make hard choices

>>500936
I believe u, it sucks but what can ya do, when one lives in extreme poverty then some choices are taken out of pure necessity

>>500909
they're developing artificial wombs up in the netherlands u should go work on that

>>500939
i kno it's retartded figured maybe this gives u a confidence boost from defending urself :)

as a fellow ultra poorfag that has to take a super low dose of hrt and cant even go for any hair treatment as of now, WE'RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT

>>500937
its so crazy like, having to get leg alser and foot laser separately it makes no logical or rational sense and is just like a poverty related problem

>>500944
we put more kids in this world there will be more trans fems being forcedully masculinized aka we should have no children agreed

trans girls aesthetics have a lot to do with class

>>500918
do u have a uni or smth which has a department that wants to help u get a job

like

the most popular tgirl aesthetics are something that is very difficult to get access to if youre not a money type of person

>>500953
we def have to like, manmode while waiting for electro and lasr so often def true, and hte poorer you are the longer you gotta do the stupid ass manmoding thing

>>500922
r u a computers girl (that sounds a lil too demeaning?) or what? mbe u could join the union for ur trade or smth ya know find a group that knows about finding these jobs

>>500956
YUP! its for that reason that sometimes im not ashamed of myself

how did u learn computers?

>>500962
not necessarily there rlly are no rules in life

>>500958
The way it works is I would say,. wet shaving my upper lip makes me 9/10 more passable for like maybe up to two hours then I get inevitable inflmmation and ingrown hairs... Electro shaving my upper lip makes me 7/10 or maybe 8/10 more passable for like 12 to 24 hours, it doesn't make me as passable in the short term but the lack of inflammed skin and ingrown hairs makes the increased passability last longer, I say as I have a massive blister still on my upper lip that may take weeks to go away I regret wet shaving so fucking much

Been walking around with an unshaven moustache for over a week and i fucking hate it so much

>>500953
ohhh? some girls on here are cute in hoodies n jeans but idk n a lot of them have cute hair cuts

>>500961
how did u get previous computers jobs?