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0.2577% laptopbooger!boymodewng
this explains it they were upset about the breton woods in general and once they saw the US was spending so much on vietnam they struck (or panicked if you want to be charitable)
anon
Oh the French didn't like us for a number of reasons, we didn't support their bid for Algeria, we really weren't big fans of their attempt to hold Vietnam either (contrary to popular belief, the US had not been big fans of the colonial states that Britain and France had formed), we also told the French Brits and Israelis to fuck off during the Suez Crisis, I'm sure we also told them to fuck off quite a few times in the Middle East in general, and also the French are just incredibly prideful and didn't like that we essentially dictated all the military strategy with very little input from them
>>750536
0.2578% laptopbooger!boymodewng
De Gaulle opined that American imperialism supported its capital export. In January 1963, he told his spokesperson:

Western Europe has become an American protectorate without even realizing it. We must now rid ourselves of their domination. But the difficulty here is that the colonized don't really want to emancipate themselves. Since the end of the war, the Americans have subjugated us painlessly and without much resistance.
>>750532
0.2579% laptopbooger!boymodewng
omg the french complainaing about colonism is hilarious
0.2580% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>GUYS WHEN YOU DO IT IT'S NOT FAIR
anon
>>750529
>Since the end of the war, the Americans have subjugated us painlessly and without much resistance.
I always like that little detail, we subjugated them painlessly by selling them loads of shit and bankrolling their defense, De Gaulle really just had a melty because we told him to stop killing the nice african people (while we killed the ones we had in the US, but that's neither here nor there)
anon
I love the Red Detachment of Women
anon
They are so lesbian for communism
anon
This movie is like if Starship Troopers was played straight
Luca
>>750528
Only thing I know about French Algeria is Camus and his silly books
>>750537
anon
>>750540
You still haven't answered my question, do you want to have (redacted) with me?
shrimp
twink
anon
shrimp
anon
Katy Perry
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
>>750544
empty?
anon
.play firework katy perry
anon
.skip (video skipped)
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
>>750549
heh
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
damn i wish i had money to buy a ducati
0.2581% laptopbooger!boymodewng
LORILORILORLIROLRORLRORILRROLRIRLORLIRL
0.2582% laptopbooger!boymodewng
OMG
0.2583% laptopbooger!boymodewng
LORI
0.2584% laptopbooger!boymodewng
LORI
0.2585% laptopbooger!boymodewng
LORI HI
0.2586% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#KSAY LORI LORI LORI LORIL ORLIRLO LRIOR LORI
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
#ksay hi hi hi
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
#ksay hi hi hi boog
>>750563
0.2588% laptopbooger!boymodewng
HI
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
>>750563
#kiss
0.2589% laptopbooger!boymodewng
wherre have you been?????????????
>>750579
Luca
I'm lester the nightfly
Luca
hello baton rouugggeeee
Luca
would you turn your radio down
0.2590% laptopbooger!boymodewng
who knows anything about baton rouge?
anon
Imagine hell
Luca
respect the 7 second delay we use
0.2591% laptopbooger!boymodewng
what?
0.2592% laptopbooger!boymodewng
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
>>750578
Luca
Lester the Nightfly is running a radio station from the foot of mount Belzoni
straw bury
wonder where saeki is at also HIII LORIS :3333333
>>750577
Luca
>>750574
Gotta turn down your radio otherwise people will hear it when you call in :^)
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
>>750566
dead. but dw cuz i'm risen
>>750586
anon
.play the nightfly
Luca
Donald Fagen sounds thrilled to wait all night for calls like those
0.2595% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750579
thas good thas good thas good
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
>>750582
.play sad girl
Luca
WJAZ
straw bury
>>750585
#smooch i dedicate this to booger my biggest fan who i secretly have a huge crush on but dont tell her though
anon
It's weird hearing my city referenced, or well Baton Rouge referenced over New Orleans lol
anon
Baton Rouge really has mastered the southern shithole with no redeeming qualities aesthetic though
0.2596% laptopbooger!boymodewng
stop larping about living in baton rouge, we all know you live in los angeles you coastal elite
>>750593>>750633
anon
>>750592
If I did live in Los Angeles, I would be heading straight to you right now
0.2597% laptopbooger!boymodewng
i don't live in LA
anon
I just assume California is like three cities
0.2598% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750595
hurtful mabe i want to live in LA
>>750600
anon
and I assume it's like Texas so like you have Houston-San Antonio-Austin and then like Dallas and El Paso separated, and then everything else is kinda small towns
0.2599% laptopbooger!boymodewng
California is bigger than texas
Luca
>>750597
I really hate LA. Go to San Diego, way better city.
0.2600% laptopbooger!boymodewng
I hate San Diego
Luca
lol
0.2601% laptopbooger!boymodewng
it has the word "san" in front of it so it's a FOREIGN IMMIGRANT CITY
::MURICA
Luca
It's saintly, Booger
Luca
they dont call it america's finest city for nothing
0.2602% laptopbooger!boymodewng
erm it's just LA it's onyl 2 letters idiot
Luca
>>750606
Walk down skid row and tell me it's angelic. Angelic maybe because everyone is starving and dying
>>750609
anon
>>750608
Skid Row LA is like normal Baton Rouge, coastal elite privilege
0.2603% laptopbooger!boymodewng
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if we were gonna talk california why didn't we take all of it are we stupid
>>750611>>750614
anon
>>750610
Wasn't that uh McKinley, like some guy wanted to take it and McKinley was like "bro no"
0.2604% laptopbooger!boymodewng
no idea
0.2605% laptopbooger!boymodewng
we took like 5 states from mexico why were we like "oh no but you can have this small slice" like what was the point
>>750615
Luca
>>750610
Baja is shit, I like Alta California, much cozier vibe
Luca
>>750613
cuz we cant just steal all their land
anon
Yeah William Walker
0.2606% laptopbooger!boymodewng
we didn't we took texas (which if you ignore the imperialism is the funniest possible military intervention ever)
0.2607% laptopbooger!boymodewng
they were like fuck we can't look imperialist, so they set up a bunch of troops in the middle of mexico and when the mexican army attacked them they were like "ohhhhh noooooooooooo i can't believe they're attackign us we didn't want this at all nooooooooooooooooooooooo" and then they waltz into mexico city in like a few months, and then the president was so pissed off at them, he limited taking only the 5 states. When I believe the military or congress wanted the US to take like almost to mexico city
0.2608% laptopbooger!boymodewng
anyways it was really funny
anon
It's almost as though one of the most defining issues of American politics at the time was slavery vs free soil
Luca
Hold on, William Walker of Nicaraguan president fame? lmao
>>750623
Luca
Did he really take over Baja too? lmfao
anon
>>750621
Yes, and he was indicted by a grand jury and told to fuck off
Luca
I wonder if any of my ancestors had run-ins with William Walker
anon
My suspicion is that it was very Blood Meridian
Luca
He got his justice, I believe he was captured by the Hondurans and then killed by the British
anon
The Brits captured him and had him executed by the Hondurans, other way around
Luca
did I get the order mixed up? lol
anon
Honestly freebooting is kind of wild
Luca
I'll be a filibuster and take over a rock with nobody on it and absolutely no strategic value
Luca
the only rule is gay sex is mandatory
anon
It's kinda wild that we just straight up took over foreign countries so that there would be additional slave states to throw support around in Congress lol, imagine a world where the US was even more expansionist and started attacking Canada too just to satisfy the equal split autism
>>750636
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
>>750592
anon probably has trouble with buyying groc
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
eries
0.2609% laptopbooger!boymodewng
grokeries ?
>>750646
0.2610% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750632
tbf mexico only owned the parts that america took for like >10
0.2611% laptopbooger!boymodewng
wait which one is less than
0.2612% laptopbooger!boymodewng
they did not own california texas new mexico, and arizona for very long
0.2613% laptopbooger!boymodewng
which was part of the reason that america had them up for contention
anon
Part of why William Walker took Baja California was to make it into a slave state, and his argument was literally "guys, the free soilers are winning, we need more states"
>>750644
0.2614% laptopbooger!boymodewng
yeah the mexico american war was 1846-1848
0.2615% laptopbooger!boymodewng
and the northern parts of mexico was sparsely populated, which lead to the whole texas affair
anon
>>750644
I mean, the guy was dedicated to the LARP, I think he was honestly more interested in being a military governor and was willing to use slavery to get there rather than vice versa
straw bury
man i wish i was a girl
0.2616% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#ksay lori
0.2617% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#ksay lori
0.2618% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#ksay lori
straw bury
#usay lorilorilorilorilorilorilorilorilorilorilorilorilori
0.2619% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#ksay lori
0.2620% laptopbooger!boymodewng
strawgirl we need to alternate saying lori
straw bury
#usay lor
0.2621% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#ksay lori
straw bury
#usay lori
straw bury
#usay lori
0.2622% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#dsay lori
straw bury
#usay lori
straw bury
#ksay lori
0.2623% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#say lori
straw bury
#usay lori
straw bury
#glesay lori
0.2624% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#ksay lori
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
nyes
>>750669
straw bury
#glesay lori
0.2625% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#dsay lori
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
was scrolling throguh my bsky tl and i got distracted with lewds
>>750670
0.2626% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750665
#ksay lori
straw bury
typical lesbian. bunch of dykes on this board
>>750678
0.2627% laptopbooger!boymodewng
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why is discord so mad i blocked someone lmao
>>750674
0.2628% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>ERM you can go to settings to UNBLOCK PEOPLE PLZ DON'T BLOCK THEM PLZ PLZPLZLZPLZPZLPLZPZ,PLZ
anon
>>750672
How is it working for you? Huh? Huh asshole, how's it working out, idiot?
0.2629% laptopbooger!boymodewng
It's working pretty good lmao
anon
>How do BLOCKADES work? Why not just go around?
Quite the title for a video
0.2630% laptopbooger!boymodewng
why don't they just go around
>>750679
anon
>>750677
They do go around sometimes
0.2631% laptopbooger!boymodewng
they should make the newfoundland-quebec-ontario-manitoba-saskachewan-alberta-bc canal and have it go right through the middle of each of those
straw bury
ah of course
0.2632% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750686
lori do you believe in hobosexuals
>>750688
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
>>750687
tha hell is that?
0.2633% laptopbooger!boymodewng
wouldn't you like to know...
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
ig
0.2634% laptopbooger!boymodewng
i love instagram
>>750693
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
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🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
>>750691
i'm gonna bite u
0.2635% laptopbooger!boymodewng
nuh uh you can't bite me
>>750695
0.2636% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750695
#kiss
straw bury
i am quite glad that labby is not here so that i can openly admit that i have a huge crush on her secretly
>>750699>>750700>>750702
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
ooooooooooh
straw bury
>>750700
Actually this is the imposter
straw bury
either way whoever wrote this >>750697 is the imposter
0.2637% laptopbooger!boymodewng
.play tell me you know good kid
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
>>750704
limão?
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
>>750705
FUCKING HELL
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
this timeline is cursed
0.2638% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750709
oh hey, you just made a common spelling mistake here. It's "Dog" not "Dawg". I hope that you appreciate this helpful little spelling tip.
>>750711
straw bury
>>750712
um... im s-sorry i actually did appreciate it a lot....................
#smooch
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
>>750711
we should bite boog, to teach her a lesson
>>750715
🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💖!nIOh.loris
>>750717
dumb decision
anon
David Markus of the DOJ:
"Ghislaine has been treated very unfairly for the past 5 years, if you looked up scapegoat in the dictionary, it would be her face there"

Holy fucking shit lmao
0.2640% laptopbooger!boymodewng
that's so not true i just looked it up and her face wasn't there at all
anon
Damn, her face isn't there it's over
anon
Alright this is going to be wild if her sentence gets commuted
anon
alright
anon
let's see
anon
.play back in the ussr
anon
.play hello goodbye
anon
.play happiness is a warm gun
0.2641% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#ksay ababababababababababababababaababababababababaababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababaab
lain from computers
#ai whats juice

juice is that sweet, tangy liquid you get from squeezing fruits or veggies. comes in a ton of flavors, from orange to cranberry to weird health blends. some people live for it, others think it's just sugar water. can't go wrong with fresh-squeezed tho. whats juice
lain from computers
#ai name the top 19 (specifically 19) juices

1. orange
2. apple
3. grape
4. cranberry
5. pineapple
6. mango
7. pomegranate
8. coconut
9. tomato
10. carrot
11. beet
12. lemon
13. lime
14. grapefruit
15. aloe vera
16. prune
17. watermelon
18. guava
19. passionfruit name the top 19 (specifically 19) juices
0.2642% laptopbooger!boymodewng
lain you're on the website libpol.org
lain from computers
oh that's true
sorry
lain from computers
i thought i was talking to my chatGPT, the interface through which i make every important decision
was trying to categorize juices
0.2643% laptopbooger!boymodewng
can you talk to me
lain from computers
sure
lain from computers
whats up laptopbooger
0.2644% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#uwu (USER WAS UWU'D FOR THIS POST)
lain from computers
guess that's that
lain from computers
nothin' else to it
0.2645% laptopbooger!boymodewng
noth'in
>>750741
lain from computers
>>750740
#downvote (USER WAS DOWNVOTED FOR THIS POST)
0.2646% laptopbooger!boymodewng
why did you downvote
lain from computers
requesting vectors for hug
lain from computers
whats going on in liberal politics today
>>750750
Luca
same ol' shit as always probs
lain from computers
that's not true
every day hour minute second
its all different all the time
lain from computers
so many people have been born and died today
lain from computers
i dont like that it all goes away
lain from computers
#paradox (observing a green apple supports the hypothesis of all ravens being black)
anon
Yes
anon
Right there
lain from computers
>>750754
that means you're cool with black people but want to own a business right
>>750758
anon
>>750757
No it means I hate black people and I hate private enterprise I'm a radical centrist
>>750759
lain from computers
>>750758
i dont think you should say that lol
anon
I am cool with black people and I want to own a business
anon
That is essentially the summation
lain from computers
#ai are small business owners just hitlers without opporutnities

no, that's a ridiculous and offensive comparison. small business owners are just people trying to make a living, not genocidal dictators. take the hyperbole down a notch. are small business owners just hitlers without opporutnities
>>750764
Luca
#dumbai make sense of politics

politics is like when people yell at each other on tv and say stuff that dont make no sense. sumtimes they talk about taxes or wars or sumthin but i dunno what they mean. i think its all just a big game where rich ppl tell us what to do and we just nod our heads like "yes sir" but really we got no clue. sum ppl say vote but then the other guy wins anyway so whats the point? also theres like left and right but i get confused cuz left is right and right is wrong or sumthin? idk man its all too much for my tiny brain. maybe if we just gave everyone free tacos it would fix everything lol make sense of politics
anon
>>750762
I am center left enough to not really care that much about small business owners
>>750767
anon
I dislike shareholder primacy even though I favor market systems
>>750766
0.2647% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750765
i'm a shareholder
0.2648% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750767
that's a bug you fucking idiot
lain from computers
>>750767
>center left talk show host
you say a lot of things that don't seem to sum to 'nick mullen's weird pet'
>>750771
0.2650% laptopbooger!boymodewng
big cum fan (it's short for cumtown)
anon
>>750772
babe don't say those things
Luca
actor michael douglas
anon
Michael Douglas
0.2651% laptopbooger!boymodewng
jk i didn't like cumtown
0.2652% laptopbooger!boymodewng
they gave me the ick
lain from computers
i like the cynicism because i am also a loser
but they dont really seem super palatable
anon
.play michael douglas
0.2653% laptopbooger!boymodewng
yeah it's not the cynism it's just often times a lot of the humor felt just like mean
anon
.skip (video skipped)
0.2654% laptopbooger!boymodewng
i liked nick mullens special kind of, although some of the jokes, were again i think just mean
Luca
i'm sorry I ever brought this up
>>750785
0.2655% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750784
sorry
0.2656% laptopbooger!boymodewng
i though the civil war house joke was really funny
lain from computers
of all the people i can be mad at, those people are probably not on my list
they're just weird like
loser sports men
0.2657% laptopbooger!boymodewng
.play [YouTube]
0.2658% laptopbooger!boymodewng
i thought this was pretty funny
anon
They don't warrant much thought in my mind
lain from computers
yeah
anon
white guy with podcast
lain from computers
>adam friedland hosts dave portnoy
honestly if you didnt think it was cooked at that point or at least past this point
idk what to say
lain from computers
i dont really care for the 'dudes rock' kinda humor at this point in my life
thanks estrogen
>>750795
0.2659% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750794
oh sorry i didn't think this was "dudes rock"
0.2660% laptopbooger!boymodewng
i thought it was a clever observation about how we treat talking about slavery stuff
lain from computers
what?
lain from computers
oh i dont have the video thing on
0.2661% laptopbooger!boymodewng
oh fuck you
>>750801
lain from computers
lol
lain from computers
>>750802
guy with israeli flag display name: Another leftist lying on the internet to make ME look bad
anon
I think that every single person in the left coalition should shut the fuck up and listen to me exclusively
>>750805
anon
In a perfect world, the Democrats would adopt democratic centralism, it would make the lefties happy because they would get to LARP harder and it would make the moderates happy because they could finally shut everyone else the fuck down and get them to stick to the platform
>>750809
0.2662% laptopbooger!boymodewng
oh yeah i forgor and i was just remeinded by a differenty youtube video i was watching, why are people trying to justify the attacks on charlie hebdo now in 2014?
0.2663% laptopbooger!boymodewng
i was in shock when i saw peole doing that
anon
>>750809
It would be determined pluralistically (this is a word it still has red line) and binding on all members after a vote
>>750814
anon
That's the core of democratic centralism
0.2664% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#ksay luca lucal ual ulca lucal
>>750817
straw bury
at least saeki is getting sum good sleep presumably
anon
>>750814
Essentially, everyone is allowed to bitch and moan shortly before the vote as the platform is debated over, but once the platform has been voted on, it is binding and anyone who complains is thrown the fuck out and crushed until the next time to determine the platform where debate is open again, it is a Leninist concept, hence why lefties will be on board because they like LARPing
>>750822
Luca
WAIT FUCK
Luca
que honda chica
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>>750817
hi
straw bury
#usay luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca lica luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca luca
>>750839
lain from computers
>>750815
is it just like 'okay we have consequences now' or something
it feels like its completely without context because i dont care about politics lol
>>750823
anon
>>750822
Let's imagine it this way, in your party, there is one group that wants 15% taxes, the other wants 10%, they have a period of open debate. At the end of that period, the whole party has a vote. If 15% were to win, then from that point forwards, if a single person says "10%! We should have 10% again!" they get thrown the fuck out of the party and the party essentially treats them as they would any other political opposition
>>750825
lain from computers
or rather how american politics supposedly work in a granular fashion
>>750826
lain from computers
>>750823
can they be killed publicly instead of thrown out that'd be cool im down for that
anon
>>750824
Democratic centralism is absolutely not a thing in American politics, it is legit a commie thing
>>750827
lain from computers
>>750826
you have to allow for lobbying to change stuff or its just not real politics
>>750829>>750833
straw bury
luca :(
lain from computers
i have nothing useful to say about this tbh
i hope it all falls apart sooner than later
maybe ill get to see something cool and exciting before i get thrown in the concentration camp
lain from computers
the tostinos concentration camp
>>750832
anon
>>750827
Oh my belief in this has relatively little to do with lobbying or whatever and more to do with the fact that the Dems can't go five minutes without backstabbing each other
>>750843
lain from computers
>>750829
would you allow little ceasars to give the slaves in the camps 5 dollar hot n readys
>>750835
0.2668% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750834
i would nuke arizona repeatedly for fun
>>750836
0.2669% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750836
neither would hitler... interesting
straw bury
>>750839
new sanguisugabogg video dropped today
straw bury
just felt like u might wanna know
Luca
play it for us
lain from computers
>>750833
they're all horrible people i hope they fucking die
>>750845
anon
>>750843
I think that they are substantially better than the opposing party to the extent at which I simply cannot imagine criticizing them without heavy tempering, but what we have right now is a situation where literally everyone can get social capital from shitting on the Democrats, even Democrat politicians
>>750849
straw bury
retarded zombie music (me)
>>750848
lain from computers
>>750845
>social capital
thats awesome as a concept
thanks marekts i l ovee market
>>750850
lain from computers
i know what you're saying but,
abstractly, it is
>>750855
lain from computers
still
dems could've just stopped this at the risk of their perfect corporate careers
they didn't so fuck em
>>750856
anon
>>750853
Yeah, in an incredibly abstract way
anon
>>750854
And how exactly? Through what methods and at what point would they be making these moves? And regardless, the past is the past, what we have right now is total right wing media domination, a right wing trifecta, and a destruction of all norms and institutions. With the Dems serving as, whether we like it or not, the unarguably best option to oppose it
0.2670% laptopbooger!boymodewng
wait but fr how could the dems have stopped anything lmao. 50% of americans are stupid and the rest didn't vote
straw bury
this video is like if the bible was a music video
0.2671% laptopbooger!boymodewng
fuck garland tho
0.2672% laptopbooger!boymodewng
that guy SUCKS
lain from computers
i dont have an exact list but im sure someone's compiled a list of votes where dems voted in favor of some ridiculous republican policy
>>750863>>750864
anon
>>750862
Yeah, I'm sure they have, I don't think the Dems are perfect angels, but you would be fuckin insane to think they aren't literally leagues better in every single way to such an extreme extent
0.2673% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750862
so?
straw bury
need a cute girl to bash my skull in with a comically large wooden deadblow hammer
nonners from small screen
another day of not killing myself
>>750869
0.2674% laptopbooger!boymodewng
another day another SLAY
lain from computers
if i go unironically do research into the ways that average democrats could've hindered if not stopped most of the horrible things that happened would you read it
>>750870>>750871
0.2675% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750868
yeah
anon
>>750868
My honest reaction would be "cool", yeah I am sure the Dems could have gone nuclear here, or opposed a media acquisition there, but this assumes perfect action at every opportunity. I don't think the Dems are perfect, but as I said before, they are leagues better, and I want you to consider this. We are on a board called liberal politics, this place should be goddamn megalib central, but defending the Democrats here is like pulling goddamn teeth, do you think a party that gets bashed this hard by their core base is nearly as strong as you purport it to be?
0.2676% laptopbooger!boymodewng
but if your list includes things like:
1. do something that's fundamentally undemocratic
2. do something that's illegal
3. do something that would literally be impossible
then i would be pretty upset!
>>750883>>750873
lain from computers
>>750872
>completely ignoring the new rules of the game
do i have to like explain that we're currently allowing the GOP to do all of those things lol
0.2677% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>why didn't they just do something illegal
ok so you don't want law and order that's fine
>>750876
straw bury
luca do u fw sanguisugabogg
lain from computers
>>750874
we don't *have* law and order lol
0.2678% laptopbooger!boymodewng
we had law and order
0.2679% laptopbooger!boymodewng
if your solution is to do a bunch of blatantly illegal shit then you are saying that america is fundamentlaly not worth saving. And if that's the case then there's no point to any of this
>>750882>>750880
lain from computers
to a larger extent than now, sure!
lain from computers
>>750878
i dont even think it is
there are obvious mundane lawful ways that could've prevented things
e.g. opposition voting on xyz bill , abc funding whatever
0.2680% laptopbooger!boymodewng
You're literally trying to blame the democracts for the actions of republicans
lain from computers
>>750878
my thesis in my head, if im just being angry is that yeah it probably isn't at this point and it won't be saved now that we've gone so far
in reality there are probably simple steps and different votes that could've been taken
i'll literally go back myself up if i have to i guess
>>750883>>750885
0.2681% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750872
>>750882
all i was saying if you include a bunch of stuff like this on the list you're not being realistic
>>750884
lain from computers
>>750883
yeah i probably would not include blatant larping on the list or obviously stupid shit
>>750886
anon
>>750882
For one, when you look into this, please recall that all of this is entirely unprecedented, so if you see a case where the Dems could have gone with a nuclear option, deeply consider whether a nuclear option would have been feasible at the time as opposed to whether it seems good in hindsight. Two, a country's institutions are only as strong as its people, and what has been lost can be taken back. I am of the belief that it's worth trying to fix things instead of whatever the "fuck it" attitude is.
>>750888
0.2682% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750884
okie i trust you then. I don't see a way they could have prevented trump fro 2023 onwards
0.2683% laptopbooger!boymodewng
like the dems literally tried to impeach trump for the january 6th thing but surprise surprise they couldn't do it becaues the repulicans blocked that. Garland should have gone after trump earlier, but even if he did with the ruling the supreme courts have made, there was no guarantee that he would have even been able to be seriously prosecuted
lain from computers
>>750885
i mean i'll bite, what does undoing a constitutional crisis really look like
courts don't mean anything, blah blah blah
>>750890
0.2684% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>coursts don't mean anything
if you believe this you are fundamentally opposed to america, and at that point nothing matters
>>750891
anon
>>750888
To start, achieving a House and Senate majority in 2027, which is feasible, the Republican efforts are not moving fast enough to stop midterms from occurring. A massive influx of new blood into Congress whose sole purpose is to impede the Presidency will dramatically hinder Trump and put the Republicans into a lame duck position, especially if people rally behind the Dems to engage in obstruction.
>>750895
lain from computers
>>750889
they don't mean anything in the sense that it doesn't seem like they have any volition either way
everything for the gop is just exceptional
0.2685% laptopbooger!boymodewng
yes because they are actively breaking the system
0.2686% laptopbooger!boymodewng
which is the whole point imo
0.2687% laptopbooger!boymodewng
if dems get in in 2027 and 2028 they should prosecute every person involved in this regime, and if they don't i would agree with your critisms
>>750895
lain from computers
>>750894
>>750890
i guess what we're talking about then is just wagering on if midterms will save us or not
>>750898
0.2688% laptopbooger!boymodewng
well like the thing that frustrates me is kinda what you said, where you're saying that just because someone is breaking a law that means that law is meaningless.

Like just because someone steals from you that doesn't make stealing okay. Yano?
>>750899
lain from computers
booger are you even from the USA lol
anon
>>750895
It's a wager where you can put very very slight weight on the scales, and more people need to put their thumb down on it instead of obstinately shitting on the best hope to do so instead of trying to be above it all or whatev
>>750902
lain from computers
>>750896
im not saying it's not bad
lain from computers
im saying that there is no authority that cares about that law anymore
0.2689% laptopbooger!boymodewng
just because they are doing illegal shit and it's not getting prosecuted right now doesn't mean that it's not illegal right? And it doesn't mean they can't be prosecuted when/if they get out of power.
lain from computers
>>750898
>above it all
i feel like most people feel underneath it all and don't want any of it
what do you mean by that
cynicism isn't an above it all position i think
>>750904
0.2690% laptopbooger!boymodewng
i don't think it's cynism it's like enlightened centrism "actually both of these people are bad" "100% hitler and 99% percent hitler" etc etc
>>750905
anon
>>750902
I see a gay hairdresser getting sent to a foreign concentration camp, I'm going to say that now's not the time for cynicism, now is the time to close rank and try to do something about it.
>>750908
lain from computers
>>750903
most of that comes from like the laundry list of human rights violations we have done and continue to do to 'fund' our collective lifestyle
i think they're generally reaching toward the same goal, just with different set dressing
>>750912
0.2691% laptopbooger!boymodewng
so you think they're the same
0.2692% laptopbooger!boymodewng
nvm
>>750910
lain from computers
>>750904
that opens up for a conversation about feeling less empowered
where does doing something about it come in, what do you practically do at that point
>>750909
anon
>>750908
I think the simplest thing is to back the party that is blatantly superior and opposes this action instead of shitting on them, beyond that, send letters and emails to your representatives, participate in phone banks, canvas for local politicians, etc.
>>750911
0.2693% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>>750909
yeah but she doesn't thnk they are superior she thinks they're the same
anon
>>750905
We have a system where the people have the means to vote, and although this country is flawed, I believe that it is built on the fundamental ideal that all people should have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I think that guys like Martin Luther King were right when they say that the American revolution wrote a check that is meant to be cashed by all people, so I don't think this is something to give up on.
lain from computers
i probably have to do a sincerely large amount of like, actual research before i can respond in a way that isn't just emotional reaction
my gut says that that's a promise made to me and a lot of people when we were younger but it's only been degraded through time
different avenues to eventually reach the same conclusions, none of them really useful to the majority of humanity
>>750917
0.2693% laptopbooger!boymodewng
i'm sorry isn't one of the parties literally doing a concentration camp
lain from computers
didn't obama make the cages all the same
0.2693% laptopbooger!boymodewng
no??
anon
>>750913
I disagree, when the US first form, very few people had the rights promised to them by the Declaration of Independence, it was only through a long hard road that we eventually began expanding these rights, but at the core of this road was the understanding that the US itself was fundamentally built on this promise. We live in one of the most prosperous periods of history, the US has proven adaptable in the face of crisis, you look at our performance during Covid for example, where in spite of Trump's bullshittery, we still absolutely smashed our targets for vaccinations. We have a system that clearly still has some vigor and capacity, along with people that want to make it better.
0.2693% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>Trump was factually correct in reminding Biden that cages were part of an embarrassing Obama administration get-tough policy in 2014 that also dehumanized migrants as part of a mass detention policy, but it is only under Trump that the United States systematically separated children from their families with no plans for reunification. Trump was also correct to suggest that the Obama administration laid the foundation for Trump to effectively implement tougher immigration policies.

>Yet unlike anything Trump has ever done, Biden admitted to a national television audience that what happened under President Barack Obama was a mistake — and it was actually the first thing he said when asked about the Obama's administration's culpability for the current situation. “Because we made a mistake," he told the moderator Kristen Welker. "It took too long to get it right
0.2693% laptopbooger!boymodewng
>smug
>this is the exact same as raiding random workplaces and shoving them into a poorly built prison with 24/7 led lighting under horrible conditions
>the exact same as deporting them to a foreign nation that is notrious for having prisoners die with horrible conditions
>the exact same
>the
>exact
>same
0.2693% laptopbooger!boymodewng
sorry this is triggering me
0.2693% laptopbooger!boymodewng
#coal (USER WAS DEFENESTRATED FOR THIS POST)
>>750923
finch
weh
finch
haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii straw
>>750925
finch
how r u sis :3
straw bury
im doing ok
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