>>91119
I'm living for it : )

... is what i'd like to say but I'm doing my best... it's not very good

>>91124
I mean if it comes down to a fight for control of your contry, and you dont think its a lost cause yet, there is a chance for the good loving l

people to win, will you fight to help then with that

>>91129
o7 comrade

o7 o7 good luck!!

>>91125
i hope one day you can find something to believe in <3

yeah fr it's good to have hope and love and all. I don think workers of hte world CAN unite cause they all have different experiences and will inevitably pursue their sub group's policies, but it's good to at least believe in making things better

Workers of the world must unite

>>91138
i pledge allegience to the flag of the united states of america for which it stands one nation under god with liberty and justice for all

pretty sure that is the only phrase i will remember when im an old dementia patient if i make it that far

>>91143
Intersectionality is why everything fails people don't care about the other groups enough

we had to do it twice a day

awww
>>91150
#hug

>>91149
yes its very fucking weird and btw the "under god" part is even weirder because its REALLY RECENT ronald reagan added it because of muh gommunism

>>91154
yes i unironi think the pledge of allegiance anti-govt-pilled a bunch of people, even kids can recognize its really fucking weird and coersive to demand you pledge your undying support for your country every day out loud as a big group or get sent to punishment, that is weird, it feels WEIRD even as a clueless kid

>>91156
nah cause the flag is associated with the state. It was the stuff pointing out how weird that is which anti-government pilled em. It taught me not to speak out against that kinda thing and go along with it

>>91158
i guess so maybe but there was one kid who fought against it in my class and it became a whole thing and eventually the teacher had to make a statement saying you dont actually have to do it if you dont want

>>91159
They have money and stuff too but >believing in god

really opened my eyes

>>91165
I think that's a religion brainworm. You should have belief in things and feel love and think of those who love you without needing crazy dogma or believing lies or whatever. Like that guy said 'I am enlightened by my mind or whatever or i saw an athiest saying that religion is wrong because it's emotional' - that's wrong! We should have emotions and love because of all the people we've met and ideas and little parts of them we carry with us

>>91165
beelieve in urself :^3

>>91171
yes i agree and i will fight and die for those people if the opportunity ever happens

I dont like protestantism, i think martin luther had good ideas and he is even correct about all of them, BUT i think that the thing which emerged from his reformation is the exact opposite of his intent

>>91168
You've got lovely tism then if you have it

it was intended to remove power and corruption from the church by removing the papal authority, instead what it did was empowered a bunch of grifters to seize that power and fleece all of their followers with 0 checks on their power. yes the catholic church has the exact same problem but i think the evangellical movement specifically is one lf the biggest rackets in the entire country

>>91175
nah they're partially good and partially evil and the good didn't come from an outside god, we just gotta make it more and more of the personality

>>91179
you do! : )

>>91182
nope! Things I don't like and associate with crying and sad vs things I like and associate with hugs and happy

and at least the catholic church does real charity. The evangellical money hoarding preachers all just buy private jets and shit

>>91176
nah they made tons of good things

protestants invented like everything and created all the big industries and such

>>91180
I think the national churches probably made their localities better off than the catholic church did, as did people getting to choose churches which better reflected their values. something something consent markets something something

Idk the papacy provided so much fucking stability during the middle ages, yea they started a bunch of wars, but they also prevented even more petty squabbling over nations i think

>>91194
temporarily but it also feels really sad and upsetting and bad so it's a tiny bit good but mostly evil

>>91200
I'm talking silly! I'm talking about what I think is good and evil and assuming ur like me

Its lesser of two evils really, i just think the catholic church at least has a bit of credit to its name, whereas the protestant movement has extracted so much resources from the states, the south specifically, and given basically 0 of it back, at least the catholic church does genuine charity

>>91187
so do the prots. and the catholics have grifters too

>>91196
they might have been good then yeah. I liked preserving books too.

>>91206
yes like i say lesser of two evils, just my opinion, i have irish family i will never change my mind on this issue for any reason

>>91204
They do with god too. Nah to me hitler is bad because of the effects of his actions. Moral feeling is your perspective, not something voted on or commanded onto you

>>91210
I dont think it *can* be absolute moral authority as long as the old testament is canon

It's too contradictory

also it is very very friendly to slavery and rape and etc

>>91218
have you read the old testament

>>91210
You could also just write down your moral feelings now and reason from there

>>91221
okay let me go get my bible brb

>>91220
same effect as having god say those things once

>>91210
you can also reason hitler to be right using the bible

.skip

Genesis 19:4-8

>>91231
The bible says that we're all supposed to give up on the manipulations of the pharcees and we should follow the word of christ. Martin luther got us closer to honoring the lord our god, one of the 10 commandments, as lead by aryan germans. By empowering aryan germans we will likely honor our father and mother, kill heritics, and make god win more. Thus we are justified in fighting all non germans in any way neccesary.

genesis 20:14

Genesis 21:12

>>91208
probably even worse cause ireland didn't do so good under catholicism

no a lot of my sticky notes have other stuff i find interesting and i dont actually find the slave stuff very interesting just because i have accepted it as a fact of the document

I am having to read passages

>>91226
I think this is important because it stops us from abusing people when we are wrong about what's going on, or are blinded by our own lusts. It's not that self determanism is in itself good, to me it still serves human experience, but it's guarded us against mistakes in the past

How many quotes of god condoning slavery would you like?

>>91237
or*nge

genesis 25:12

>>91243
Interesting to think that that wolf tone was a protestant as were most of the people who really advanced liberalism

im confused

Do you think slavery is okay?

>>91212
But the religious worldview is wrong. I agree that I will have feelings which are bad, but the religious worldview people didn't get it through a myricle. They got it through their own internal thoughts and experiences.

I'm glad I was made to think the thoughts I see as moral, like being socialized not to be agressive, but ulitmately those are parts of me, not something external with me having an 'evil' self

im not trying to convince you away from the religion im trying to tell you that if you take the bible as absolute moral authority it means you condone a lot of very bad things

there are theological arguments to get around this that you can use but they basically all revolve around not accepting the bible as absolute moral authority

>>91253
yes that is one of them

So it's not absolute moral authority

absolute would mean you can open any page and that thing is true and morally binding no?

>>91253
But why would you do that? tell a people they can genocide whoever they like and then do a huge flip around, just in exchange for being honored, not because of like their happiness or whatever

>>91261
i dnt understand but ok

>>91263
#kiss Lorrriiiiiiiiii

i am getting bored of this :/

>>91263
hey you had a dom flag yesterday I think!

I just think most people who say the bible is their absolute moral authority are cherry picking parts of it they agree with and discarding the rest because the text is so expansive and condones or forbids basically anything you can think of

are you gonna have a whole career?
: O lori secret reason revealed!!!

>>91268
I think there's something very good within them, that they don't want to be ruled by temporary passions and do whatever seems ok at the time, but believiing in gods or words just because they were said should not be ok

>>91269
why tho :/

>>91272
yep, i think overall it is actually a force for good, especially historically, and much of the foundation of science and certainly philosophy is based around biblical study

>>91274
hehehe

Almost all our ideas about right and wrong in the west are predicated on the christian tradition, and i think those ideas of right and wrong are generally correct, but saying a text like the bible is absolute anything is kinda silly

do you have ideas on how you'll look for work lori?

are you gonna look at websites or the newspaper classifieds?

>>91283
I kinda agree I liked the whole 'you should get a responsible wife who takes good care of the household' part of the old testement

>>91279
no just kinda bored, usually the types of people i talk about this with make more arguments instead of just demanding sources and then not responding

and like idk it feels like this is making it kinda antagonistic and uncomfy in here idk

vibes are getting a bit fucked up :p

>>91290
#kiss

>>91291
#hug

: >

>>91293
#kiss #hug

>>91295
why are you being so vitriolic :c

A lot of the time people are traumatized or backing bad things and it gets bad. So you should affirm that you care about the other person and don't support crazy bad stuff probably. I with I could cleanly make religious claims illegal but I wouldn't actually want to hurt people or break up their communities when they're being ok.

lori career : D : D : D : D
do you think you'll work with computers or heal people or fix things or talk to people? IDK what the jobs are

beari

>>91305
oooh My friend says she knows 2 trans girls in her city who work at mcdonalds and she put a pokemon card in the fryer once

that's not nice to say nojo I'm way more right wing in some regards than I prob should be but it's not about passing or whatever. I don't think our worldview can always be consistent, and I think in many cases communistesque people try to force me to have bad world views but no one should get hurt if not for a greater good

>>91311
mad

>>91311
you can disagree with me about anything and i wont ban you even if it makes me really bad but this is niceboard and if you are going to tell users to kill themself you can't be here.

>>91316
#change bad to mad

And i only did it for an hour, i like you and would be happy for you to stay here, but you cannot go around saying kys, this is not that kind of place. thank you.

and I think you've got good in your heart and so do I and I do get kinda excited and edgy when posting and I'm sorry if I hurt you

I was religious for a long time and still keep by a lot of the prohabitions

do people really get this mad about opinions
say it isn't so

>>91313
also I'll say that being a canibal is a great insult but being ugly or powerless or not part of society isn't so bad

nah it's ok to care too IDK it's good you care

I am not going to moderate nojo again i think they just need time to cool down.

And i think im not impartial so it should be someone else who makes that decision next time

i think studying art can help a lot with understanding how morality can be both subjective and not just arbitrary. what makes a tune good is down to what we feel about it, but there are rules about what sorts of sounds humans tend to like. likewise for colors. and, i believe, likewise for morality. evil is as real as discordant notes.

nojo has been really friendly otherwise and i would prefer if they continue using this site.

IDK can anyone else give input i feel like maybe i overstepped

>>91330
seems reasonable to ban someone who says the epic ywnbaw
>>91332
#this it is meant to be nice...

>>91333
i didnt ban them for that one afaik that ip is not banned

idk, like. we are mostly all from ttt or adjacent spaces we've all heard that before and it can be a snap response in a bad moment i dont think nojo actually has hate in their heart just havjng a really bad day or something. i dunno. i am sad to lose any good posters from our little place here

nothing ever happens...............

>>91336
yeah true I'm generally on the side of not dogpiling or whatever

>>91339
#hug you've got good standards tho

I kinda don't like the whole trans suicide culture : (

Some of my friends self harm and talk about being suicidal a lot and I don't like hearing about it but IDK.

>>91343
i mean i agree with all that but i also believe in forgiveness and i think people sometimes lash out against their own best interest and say something hurtful BECAUSE it is hurtful, knowing it will burn a bridge, sometimes even more as a sort of self harm thing than an actual attempt to wound someone else. like idk

>>91348
mmmmmmm that's very true
>>91343
also true I think the ideal is to like influence those we talk to to be less like that

idk im too personally invested, im gonny go take a break from internet for a bit, i hope another mod will see this convo and decide what to do. Shouldn't be me deciding because i was part of the argument

>>91350
#hug I really respect that you did that and you deserve somewhere you can control to be healthy for you : (

Yeah spaces should get better

>>91350
that is true and tbh if they said that to anyone but me i would perma them off rip no question, to protect other users. but it was at me, i can handle it, and I feel like i did antagonize them and so i feel responsible for this as well, i want everyone here to be happy. If they say that to another user i will have 0 tolerance

>>91351
#hug you deserve a helathy break

>>91350
#this is real
trying to help those who do not want to be helped does not rly work a lot of the time in my experience

>>91355
a lot of the time they do want to be helped a little but it's just not enough or they aren't capable of achieving it : ( but it's still a waste of resources in the end

>>91354
thank you #hug

>>91356
tru, there is often a gap between what how we want to live and how we actually live............ i suppose it ends up as a subjective thing person-to-person, those who have a lot to give will stick with it for longer.... i would be in the same camp as bigsad re: not giving a shit anymore if people wanna live in shitty unproductive ways. live ur life broski

I had a therapist who was like 'you have to fully want to change' and I was like yeah I get all excited when we talk but it always goes away, there's never going to be a me which is fully driven by one desire. IDK I think it's kind of a bullshit term, ideally we'd work with what we have in realistic ways but I don't really know how

>>91361
the day we can figure out how to motivate ourselves as humans to do things we really actually want to do, is the day we become superhuman freaks of nature (positive)

>>91353
I antagonized them too : (

>>91365
i just feel bad, if i didnt bring up the religion thing i think this wouldnt have happend :(

>>91358
You've been a good influence on me and I appreciate it a lot. Kinda stopped the food log the last few days with the teef surgery but it'll be back soon. thank you for being a voice of that

>>91366
you can always follow that line of reasoning back to "if i was never born then x bad thing wouldn't have happened"
a better way of thinking about it can be asking if the conduct is something you like... idk you agree with, something you think that was accurate to ur character or ur morals or whatever. if you get what i mean

>>91363
yes!!!!!!

>>91369
sounds fucking based, do u remember the author / book name?

also
>create multiverses of all possible actions until you find the one where you actually do the dishes or whatever
humans stay winning the overengineering award

gregory eganory

>>91366
But I don't think either of us will change much in how we talk. I kinda do think religion is an important topic. I should've been more gentle once I started getting pushback maybe

#wiki (no wikipedia results found) diaspora greg

noo

#wiki diaspora (novel) [Wikipedia]

wang's carpets

>>91364
mmmm yeah I can't accept just living life with actions driven by fear though. I hope I can change and start really working on things I care about in a sustained manner

>>91369
and we can do that a tiny bit today, particularly with things like ADHD meds or bedtimes or whatever. It's just hard is all. but it matters

>>91386
yeh. Mine helped but I haven't been on them the last few days what with the surgery. I assume you can actually have adderal with opiates it just sounds kinda druggy to me lol

>>91390
we're all gonna beef it one day but we may as well get comfy and self-actualised til we go

>>91389
yeah me too <3 I wanna live a good nice life where I have realistic goals that help people and I'm proud of what I could do and did

>>91391
<3 fr fr

: D

I feel a little bad just forgetting about nojo and being euphoric about a dream of the future... but I was going to sign off anyway and try to study a little of my own stuff. I hope I'll inspire nojo and everyone's going to be so back together <3

But no ur right sad! I walked away from the computer and came back up here and was feeling bad about arguing online but kinda hopeless about my plan to study instead and I feel a lot better now #wearesoback I hope it hurts less too

That was nice and thoughtful of you guac not to point that out I think you were classy to do that btw

this is so sad chat

anger not expressed for survival seems like wasted energy
you could be building houses in minecraft with all that steam

>>91404
lmfao

>>91403
celeste and fallout my kind of man
my kind of style
awww :<

>>91410
so true so true I'm such an oxygenmodder

>columbo finds your oxygen tank
i-it's not what it looks like

no matter where you go we are all connected

#letsallloveglelge

impressionist glegle

nooo why the creepy tongue one ;_;

"Therefore the Master
acts without doing anything
and teaches without saying anything.
Things arise and she lets them come;
things disappear and she lets them go.
She has but doesn’t possess,
acts but doesn’t expect.
When her work is done, she forgets it.
that is why is lasts forever"
hmmm kinda agree kinda disagree

>>91422
>When her work is done, she forgets it.

based short term memory loss haver

>>91427
Cute :3

>>91425
she's literally me fr fr

>>89322 im a cis boy and i like cis and trans women

::glegle and derrick

::derrick

::glegle bblahaj

::gleg

>>91432
how to find someone like you irl please

>>91443
are you near by any chance

how am i supposed to know that silly

where are you from

west coast

nvm

just ask a guy you find cute out

#itssoover (90)

just say hey i thought you looked cute i was wondering if you were free tonite to grab something to eat, ill leave you my number just in case

>>91449
i dont think you understand the shame and embarrassment this will lead to when he inevitably doesnt find me attractive because i look like a boy

if he doesnt then he wont message you

and i willfeel ashamed :c

do you expect everyone to find you attractive?

most will msg you if they are not taken and looking

well if you never try then youll never know

most men arent okey even with a gigapasser and i am ugly

post a pic here to see if you indeed look like a boy or not

>>91461
most men are okey with a gigapasser

idk pics arent a good judge

>>91463
i dnt think this is true unfortunately

a lot of men are lonely and scared to ask girls so if you make the first move youll find someone in no time. they will all be very happy to take you

>>91467
the one guy i know who i think is rly attractive is 20 years older than me and has 2 kids lmao

ok nvm then ms daddy issues

i think it would be rly weird to ask him

>>91470
noooo its not even like that i usually dont like older men

i cant help you

wwith finding a sugar daddy

:(

nooo

stop im not like that

i like ppl my age

just ask someone then and record it to prove you did

>>91480
#give

hmm

see what i mean :c

round ears!

:c

no the one before i deleted :c

c:

that's what i meant

i think most men would be fine

i just got here but i liek round ear bear : )

you look like a woman with a big face

Lotsa room for kisses :3

>>91491
in a good angle with makeup n stuff on

IDK should it really be about being pretty tho? Your novelty as a sex object will fade like 1 month into the relationship probably

that dosnt count :/

>>91494
it shouldnt but it is

I don have anyone either tho

ill ask someone out for you are you in socal?

can you get someone for me too?