Hey, everyone! What do you think of this hdg fic?

https://archiveofourown.org/works/53659024/chapters/135833893

>>319462
Do you ever think some beings might just be better off free?

ffs do the plants even teach florets empathy? It should be obvious that not everyone perceives the world the same way, but what do I care, it's not like florets are worth talking to anyways. I'm surprised every time one can form a sentence without guidance, wretched bloody addicts.

>>321737
I appreciate what the author was attempting, but it didn't hit quite hard enough to be sarcasm and he goes into detail in the comments that he more or less supports the anti affini society he describes. I think the idea could have been better executed.

>>321783
Do heterosexual children learn empathy? Have you ever wondered why when you claim to be an atheist christians will assume you hate a god you just said you don't believe in?

Do you ever walk into a room and find out you're way smarter than anyone else there and feel miserable all the time you're expected to explain basic concepts very slowly so they can understand?
That's how affini feel around independents. Luckily they're not obliged to treat the cute sillies as equals and can simply pat them on the head and go about their day.

>>321783
no? why would i think such depressing things?
Mistress says some sophonts dont *need* an owner, but its still sad that they think they're better off that way. So many feral ideas about freedom still in their heads...
Of course evryone percives the world diffrently, silly! Thats the tragic part, how wrong these oerceptions can be... i dont remember the time before i met my owner too well, but i was the same once you know? All kinds of caustic feral ideas stuck in my head... but now i know better! The pure bliss of finding your true place in the world is something that is verry hard to describe to those that cant relate... but i know that evryone should get to feel this good! Its tragic some sophonts have to ĺive drab lives without thus joy in their day! If thats not empathy i dobt know what is..

say you had the opportunity to send a distress signal to the affini. would you throw the rest of humanity under the bus for a chance at domestication? i think i probably would. at the end of the day everyone would genuinely be better off, which combined with me selfishly wanting it outweighs any moral qualms

>>324250
yea, i think i probabbly would t b h.
ive drank enough of the coolaid to belive its genuinely for the best. My friends would finaly not need to suffer anymore...
i would probabbly need to get wasted to get over myself and actualy press the button though, i do have a love for freedom and plenty of moral objections to wrassle with.

like, i have the meta knowledge to know its gonna be better, right? So i'd be tempted to do it. I yearn.
But without the 'meta knowledge' id probabbly end up fanaticaly ferral

I think there are other alien overlords I'd press the button for first.

>>324291
like who?

>>324250
I wouldn't hesitate. Maybe it would be selfish, but there are plenty of terrible humans who need to be blasted with xenodrugs until they cut it out and I wouldn't mind a cure for some of my worse issues.

>>324296
I'm more into transhuman uplifting. Trade this beat up chassis for something more durable and reliable. I'd go with the Machina from Omega-Processor's Machina Hazard universe. I recently found some fan stories on Literotica.

>>324482
i dont know that setting, so i cant comment on how they compare. Maybe i'll have to read up on it.
But you know getting a sleek new robot body to replace your old body is an option with the affini too, right?

>>311840
>Rampantly prideful and egotistical
>Give no fucks about things like "boundaries" and "consent"
>Can make whatever they want whenever they want
>Total mastery over drugs and bioengineering
>Always seeking more territory and more species to take into the fold
>Immortal lifespans put them at risk of infinitely increasing ennui

Slaanesh would love the affini like no others, a big problem considering Slaanesh is the absolute last thing you want to be "loved" by.

>>324524
True, but it's still not quite "uplifting". I'd rather be an equal part of whatever society results.

>>326517
Well, if you think about it, they're uplifting you from a scared feral into a cute pet :)

>>326895
yay uppies!

I guess everyone got bored of hdg when 4chan shut down...

>>329542
the community is just split, there's a lot of people on 8chan

>>329542
nah i dont think so
we're a small thread in the first place, and a few people might have gone missing in the exodus
but i doubt people suddenly dont want to be collard by plommy anymore

i do hope we can go back home soon though...

>>330031
>>329542
Also: Theres less pressing need to bump now that we're not falling of the board for going 5 hours with no posts
i did ALOT of crypto-bumps back on 4chan when we got to page 8/9, where i tried to make it a normal post with some begging or cock knows what, but realy it was just a bump and i wouldna posted that if we werent falling of the board

>>330031
poor stray terrans, left all alone... i hope someone comes back and collars them all...

>log on to finni over net
>bitch about finni
seed behavior tbh

plant taking your first time (unwillingly) while you whimper and tremble in its arms, treating you so so gently, cooing over you and telling you what a good job you're doing while you cry

>>331345
the internet is free terran soil, weeds OUT

>>331628
And of course nobody is tracking connections to terra, right? "But I'm obfuscating my signal!" That just makes finding you more fun for them.

>>331769
I'm in a private window so pretty sure it's fine

>>331893
Aren't those the cuddle piles where you keep getting everyone domesticated?

>>331893
I hope you rest easy knowing the only reason you aren't wearing a collar is that the plants appreciate number of independents you trick into florethood with so-called 'free' affection.

>>331559
ohmyFUCKINGgod

>>332186
>mostly

>>332231
it is if you know they're probably going to be domesticated
it's entrapment

>>332361
sounds to me like you're deliberately providing a space for people to get domesticated
I hope they get you next

>>332367
Don't worry, the day she's too tired or busy to keep up the cuddle piles, she'll have an affini ready to ensure she never feels too much stress to cuddle ever again.

>>332396
>Affini like domesticating people who go to cuddle puddles
>does not make it my fault for hosting cuddle puddles.
"Its not my fault that guy got arrested on drug charges, i just sold them to him"

>>333532
Entrapment is goading or tricking a person who'd normally never break some certain law into breaking that law (see: the inciting incident of the Ruby Ridge disaster). You're still right, but for the wrong reason.

>>331816
Damn, he's in incognito mode, we'll never get him.

i want to have the absolute shit scared out of me so that i may experience the "Fawn" part of "Fight, Flight, Freeze or Fawn"

Um hi
My owner doesn't like me talking on the internet but she's out and I don't want to make her sad but I'm really really really confused so can someone help me? Please?
Mommy says I used to be extra naughty before I met her. i don't remember much of it but I don't think she'd lie. I try to be good! But I mess up a lot and I feel really bad about that. Mommy makes me wear a shock collar and zaps me when I'm bad. She says it's to discipline me but it hurts! And sometimes I don't know what I did wrong. But then other times mommy says I'm adorable and pets me lots and gives me treats. Then sometimes she just ties me up and shocks me without saying anything and makes her scary face
Am I bad for being confused?

>>336352
Is confusion a bad thing?

>>336352
Post contract

>>336352
Are you sure you dont enjoy it on some level? Absolutely sure? Asked the compiler for class-Ds and searched your feelings sure you dont enjoy it a little bit?
If the answer to all of the above is yes, then you should try to contact your local BXWC, you have a right to wellness and if being shocked is making you fell bad (and you *dont* enjoy it on some level) then thats a violation.

>>336396
Being confused makes me sad

>>336435
It's too high up and all the chairs are really heavy...

>>336442
Mommy says I need help learning to be good and I don't want to make her sad :(

>>336589
>It's too high up and all the chairs are really heavy...
Alright then, what specifically did you do before meeting your mommy and what were you like? Even if it's hard to remember you gotta do it for me, a good floret would. You can do it.

>>336589
Sweaty, maybe this is to high-concept for your cute little flortbrain, but if she wanted you to be good, she could fix any problems in your behaviour trivialy. Some hypnotics and a good seshion would sort it out in 10 minutes. Actualy scratch that, if you're properly implanted and conditioned to your implant, she could just *make sure* your feel and think the way you ought to.
Ergo, shes doing it the slow and manual way because *she enjoys it*. And thats A-OK, if you enjoy it also. But if you *genuinely dont*, then thats not okay and she shouldnt be doing it.
But, our glorious overlords do often know better than we do... which is why i suggest taking some class Ds for self-reflection, if you havent already - we can oh so easily delude ourselfs into thinking we dislike something when we secretly enjoy it and just feel ashamed for it.

>>336352
youre not bad at all ! just trust your mommy and try your best she'll take care of u :>

>>336274
yeah I really really want this
its kind of happened before but not for a long time, and not in a good way

>>337173
Spying? All of Terra's planet net is now Affini hardware. How can they spy on their own network?

>>337194
is it really affini hardware? terrans invented the internet perfectly fine ourselves, we don't need weeds to do it

>>337210
Yep. Every satellite replaced with smaller units that have a far greater bandwidth and are self-maintaining.

>>337276
ok but we still invented internet and satellites andd stuff, that has to count for something

>>337315
You dont think inventing computers and then going like "hurr what if we run wires between them to send messages?" is a special achivement, now do you? It isnt.

>>337103
ooh? Do you wanna tell us about that, anon? As much as i think it'd be realy great to have the experience... kayfabe off i kinda didnt think that was real.

>>337498
I mean the way we can send data through wires or even just through the air is a pretty crazy achievement, it took thousands of terran scientists many years just to come up with a system that worked to send data between a couple different computers. It's actually an incredibly complex system built on decades of work, so what if the weeds have better wifi? they had like billions of years of a head start anyway

>>337625
the weeds being better at it is, infact, not impressive. They have eons of a headstart.
Not my point. Most species that dont get wiped out by a disaster will figure this shit out sooner or later, in one way or another.

>>337505
getting beat up by a bigger kid and begging them to stop is definitely real
it would be really fun I think to do in roleplay, but its not that fun when it's real

>>337671
Hmm, i dont think that realy qualifies as "fawning" anon, sorry.

>>337662
hmm do the rinans have good internet? I bet terran internet was way better

>>337704
im willing to bet the rinian internet was significantly more usuable thanks to being less corporate and comercialized
although, i can imagine with the haphhazard nature of their tech in general, there'd be more downtimes and jankier UIs

>>337683
I mean that's basically the appeasement response, which isn't fight, flight, or freeze

>>337759
i cant find the exact qoute im looking for
but the idea was more like, that you get so impressed and scared that it loops all the way around to LOVING IT
like, seeing just how outclassed you are and instinctualy going "PLEASE TAKE ME NOW SUPREME BEING!"

>>337884
Plants!

>>337871
I'm not sure that sort of thing actually happens irl

>>338042
thats what i said originaly anon...
shame though! real shame

>>336625
>>336644
I apologize for my adorable little one's outburst, petals. I have been obliged to discipline her because she has a tendency to seek out new playmates. While in most florets this would be a wonderful sign of adjustment and docility, my pet kidnaps independents to implant them in order to make them "ours." That entails cutting open their necks and "implanting" clippings of my leaves. I am aware that this is a problem and have prevented her from succeeding thusfar.
She does want to be good, but her intentions are very misguided. I don't suppose any of you would be willing to join our family and let my blossom bring you closer than you could presently imagine (with careful supervision)?

>>338080
No thats fine miss, thank you though.
I do have to question your choice or methods though, espechaly withsomething that serious. Why not just place some mental blocks? I dont claim to understand even a thrid of how your peoples biotech works, but from the pamphlets and papers i've read it should be possible for someone with expertize to just program the implant in such a way that it stops such psycosis dead in its tracks. You guys use that stuff all the time, for trival powerplay things like stoping swearing. So surely you're aware of the possibility? Why dont you, then?
Dont get me wrong man, im not exactly an advocate *for* mindcontrol... but you might aswell if the manual training is causing them discomfort.

>>338280
defamation of a floret... just because she wants to make friends. sickening. guards!! domesticate this woman

>>338644
interesting. backtalk. another hundred years of domestication for you

>>338080
Stop shocking her you idiot you're clearly frying her neurons

>>338141
Unfortunately, that would conflict with the message that implantation is good and that florets are happy. Sometimes blossoms need correction. That aside, I know that once I started I would simply rewrite her entirely to my preferences, not her best self but the self I would find most pleasing. A plant nearby fell into that trap and it wasn't for the best, adorable as the results might be.

>>338280
They say petal that when one stops seeking an owner that one is most likely to appear. For example, in response to exclusionary cuddle pile practices. I've heard you go out of your way to associate with feralists without any affini present. Is that correct?

>>340162
She makes adorable noises every time and it's only a light zap to get her attention. As I mentioned, she can be a bit dramatic at times. Worry not little one, I will have her fully trained shortly. I'm glad you didn't see how she was before I made so much progress.

>>340800
>I'm glad you didn't see how she was before I made so much progress.
how was she -before-?

>Catching a minor cold and having to pretend not to be sick, lest your affini neighbors take it as an excuse to coddle you. Or worse, justify a wardship, since "if an adorable independent such as yourself manages to get sick in a society safe as ours, that's a clear sign you're not taking enough care of yourself."

>>341607
>Soup that is most certainly not laced with xenodrugs, and would absolutely not be poured down the drain in favor of soup from a compiler.

>>341615
no

I keep trying to signal to my neighbor that I want to be broken, but she's just not buying it. What can I do to get her vines around me???

>>340823
Very unlike the sweet devoted thing she is now. I would rather not mention the specifics in case she finds her way to this community again, but I will mention it was discussed some time ago.

>>340851
Regardless of whether you seek out the feralist elements of society or simply persist in lines of motion that bring them to you, I think that is adorable. If any affini agree you're certain to be snapped up as soon as a suitably romantic occasion arises. If not, my darling is still in need of a companion as devoted to cuddling as you evidently are!

>>341615
There's nothing wrong with wanting to be owned, petal. My little one is so much happier in that state. The cares of independence can so easily overwhelm, and nothing is better able to repel the roughness of the universe than a mommy's soft vines. Perhaps she could give you a little snack when you're cradled against her chest, so you don't have to be even that far from her.

>>341848
there is very much something wrong with wanting to be owner, esp in a *ugh* motherly way. Terrans have moms of our own, the fuck?

>>341944
But nona, I can't have sexy thoughts about my Terran mom, she's a 400 lbs cow now a cool vine lady!

>>341953
Please tell me mommykinkers don't *actually* want, like, a motherly mom they can have sex with? I might have to actually leave, I've been running under the presumption that littles just missed out on having parents and sublimated that shit into a kink

>>342010
What, you DON'T want to please the person that gave you so much love? You okay, anon? Did your Mommy not hug you?

>>342075
Yep thats enough Internet for the night for me, too.

>>342010
>Please tell me mommykinkers don't *actually* want, like, a motherly mom they can have sex with?
what else would we want?

>>342010
yea, like >>342327 said
mommykink stuff is generaly not about actual incest.
it is verry much about a motherly figure thatll care for you and such, and you probabbly call her mommy, but its not like your actual real mom, that'd be gross.

please come save me and tie me up in vines and collar me and love me and make me utterly adore you and train me to feel utter joy at obeying evry word and take me on walkies and introduce me to miss implant and and
yea

guess what fuckers
i have currency im my pockets right fucking now
what now weeds?

>>342010
>I might have to actually leave
that's fine

>>344855
whats the story

>>345814
>but still can't come back or associate with us
Why not?

>>346605
The problem with bratting used on someone who doesn't know what you're doing is that it's indistinguishable from being rude. It's a great way to be domesticated by an affini who you'll be happy to be around though!

>>348200
I'm not the one having trouble figuring out how to ask to be made a pet.

:( Why isn't my hab letting me print xenodrug counter-agents? It just keeps beeping loudly at me whenever I try, worried it might tattle on me. I'm independent so it's not like the compiler is on floret mode!

>>349986
Have you tried telling it that the loud beeping is upsetting you and that it needs to stop?

>>350083
No, but I'd sooner die than talk to walls. Wish I had an option to remove the hab AI outright. Besides that might stop the beeps but it probably still won't let me print what I want! Having xenodrug antidotes on hand seems like a reasonable precaution to take.

>>349986
well if a ffini gives u xenodruggies u probably needed them anyway silly ! :p

>>350376
>ffini
Whatever you say, floret.

Hmmm... Y'know your owner's tablet probably have unrestricted access to the overnet- You'd be the goodest girl ever if you took it while your owner's not looking and searched up 'how to override compiler blacklist' for me.

>>350517
mmwell i asked mommy and she said i shouldnt look it up. she also said u were probably all confused , but shes making sure a nice ffini checks on u ! :D

>>350690
It's not like my hab and search history haven't already snitched. Plus *I'm* not the one stealing, what're the plants gonna do, convict me for the terrible crime of being a bad influence?

>>350933
Wha- no- you- you weren't supposed to ASK her! Stars damn it. . . . Could you do me one more favor and tell your 'mommy' that I'm fine and that she should NOT send anyone for a checkup.

wow the other threads uncomfy right now
need plant hug :(

>>351220
The pattern will be endlessly swapping which thread is "debating the ethics of plant people" general and "pining for plant mommy to drug you into bliss" general

>>351296
>what if she loses respect for me?
What makes you think she respects you in the first place

>>351014
she said that people who dont want to be checked on usually need it the most :o why dont u want help ? its oki theyll be rly nice to u im sure !!

>>351296
>Mtf repressor
uhhh

>>351339

This might sound a little ridiculous to a wormbrain such as yourself, but just because your owner says something doesn't immediately make it true. She might say people like me 'need help the most' but it's not true. That's just her nature as an affini to see anyone not with a haustorium as needing help.

As for why I don't want 'help'. . . ugh I dunno even why I'm bothering trying to explain this to a floret- The short answer is, I won't want or need an 'owner'. I lose freedom in exchange for nothing. The long answer is- to put it bluntly, you and florets like you seem downright dumber after being 'domesticated'. Your implant regulates your thoughts to such an extent that I'd hesitate to say you're the same person as you were before getting implanted. You're a pet first and foremost, person second.

Wha- Stars- I should've boarded up that door-

>>351484
>I lose freedom in exchange for nothing.
actualy, you loose freedom in exchange for saftey ,unlimited bliss and happiness and becoming your best self :)

>You're a pet first and foremost, person second.
Pets arent people silly

>>351484
my pad censored that word so im not sure what u said there but if its smth mean u shouldnt do that ! esp if u dont want to get domesticated :pp also mommy is like rlyyyy smart so i trust her , and i dont need to be smart ! i can just be cute and cuddly and happy and she takes care of me :>> i hope u find the right owner for u someday i bet youll be soooo much happier , i mean u almost sound a little feral :o

PSA: Calling your weed "mommy" is disgusting. She didnt push you out of her vagina and if she did, she is morally obligated to not be fucking you.

>>351530
>she probably hates my guts
thats not the implication there and you know that. You dont respect a cat or dog the way you do a person, but does that mean you hate them?

>in theory self actualization cant happen without freedom of choice.
Hmm i dont thats true exactly. I mean if you take the 'self' part to mean that you have to do it on your own then sure. But having someone help you make correct choices to get there wont invaludate the achivement now will it? are you less proud of gains at the gym cause you had a coach? nah

freedom is a bad word actualy, isnt it? Florets have plenty freedom. More than anyone in the accord ever did. LIBERTY is the word. Thats what they 'lack'

>>351571
well shes my mommy bc she loves mee and takes care of me and feeds me and brushes my hairr and gives me cuddles and core cuddles and all that !! :3 dont be so negative im sure u can find a good mommy too :> u know mommy says that the angriest feralists usually secretly want the stuff they say they hate. u should try class ds !

>>351590
yaaay!

>>351530
are you feeling fine angel? i hope so. i love having you around in the threads.

Starsdamn it. Can hardly move let alone type, in part due to being utterly tangled in a forest of vines, and in part due whatever she injected me with making my whole body sluggish. They just have to be so condescending too, saying things like 'my compiler privileges have been revoked' and 'unless you behave and apologize to that sweet floret your tablet privileges will be taken away as well'.

At least I can think straight.

>>351502
I already have safety by virtue of living in the compact, and no job might as well be unlimited bliss and happiness, both things I have as an independent. So yes, it is for nothing!

>Pets aren't people
Not helping your 'you should become a pet' argument.

>>351503
As for you, the damn weed wants me to say that I'm sorry for calling you a wormbrain. There. And for the record I'm not feral! I'm not dumb enough to starve myself in a tin can all for nothing. I just value my independence like they do. And I swear to god if your tattling is the reason I get domesticated I'm putting in my contract that you're never allowed to arrange 'playdates' with me.

>>351672
are you sure posting things likecthis mid-wellnesscheck is a good idea anon

>>351672
hehe
u dont get to choose what goes in ur contract :3c

mistress please make my friends less sad :(

>>351687
The fact that she hasn't outright snatched the tablet out of my hands despite watching what I post over my shoulder is a good sign. Hell my guess is she's stalling by cuddling me because she knows damn well there's nothing in my hab to indicate I'm un-well!

>>351724
. . . I was about to say something but the weed snatched my tablet and deleted it, something about 'needing to play nice.' >:(

>>351724
you do if you volunteer :D
which is why i highly recomend it.
Dont like not being able to think? put it in there chief.

someone break me please
show me just how pathetic and inferior i am

Affini who tells horrible dad jokes all the time but gives you xenodrugs so you can't help laughing at them.

>>352213
>nikolai and whatshisname in the tillandsia trilogy

>>351341
wow, i realy like that piece. Dont think it's been posted before. Thank you anon.

>tfw so disgusting even an affini wouldn't want you
>so unlovable you could sit at the park in the middle of the night and none of them would notice
The best way to stay free.

>>352870
All you have to do is be yourself while having a self unworthy of love. There's nothing that can make it happen intentionally.

>>352711
>What if instead they break you and show you just how wonderful you are.
hmmm... ill take it!
Im not sure that'll inspire the same submission and adoration, but it certainly sounds like i could get down with it too.
though.. are these realy mutualy exclusive?

>>352916
See but the clue here is that self-perception of worthiness and worth dont matter diddly squat. Like i said, i've seen war criminals that slaughterd rinian children for fun be called adorable by the weeds. They're hardcore man, they'll love anything.

>>352922
There are always exceptions. You may choose to believe that they don't exist, but your belief is not required. Get drunk and do anything you want. If no affini pay attention or try to look after you, you'll know. If not, enjoy something out of reach of some.

>>352937
mhm... yea... need...

im aight. I *am* prone to putting myself down and impostor syndrome, but i was just speaking in the kinky sense just then. thanks tho

>>352950
i certainly apprechiate it.. being shown *my place* .... mhmhmmhmhmggnhr

>>352922
I hope I didn't incorrectly provoke you to tempt an affini to deny that you're cute. That's not safe for most...

>>351530
>Awh. Ur right, she probably hates my guts.
That's not what I meant. If you really want her just go up to her and do anything at all in her presence and be around her consistently. To them the biggest retard fuckup and the most talented and successful alpha male in the universe are equally in need of caring for. She will love you, but will never ever respect you, at least as far as how we normally define respect.

Guess whats back fags, pack yer bags!
[4chan]
That the pre-exodus thread, btw, they just loaded a backup or something i guess

>>353987
Do we even want to go back?

>>354131
suit yourself but im going back home

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Anonymous 04/25/25(Fri)18:33:53 No

So, do we count the next thread as #122, #123 (since the eight chan bunker thread is #122) or #124 (since there was another paralel bunker thread on lib pol)
I vote we go for #123 and count the bunkers as 122a and 122b

i still want to say thinking an affini hates you is really stupid, too stupid for rp

Bump for space plant cuddles

>>366014
are you still hanging out here, petal?

>>366662
It's cozy here and there's less meanness

can an affini put me down please

>>369136
Aw, you'd like to get even more uppies?

to a certain extent i feel like it's difficult to properly "capture" the aspect of an intelligence so much greater than our own that we would be to them as, say, dogs are to us. because authors are ultimately constrained to human experiences and imaginations. i wish there was a way to explore that aspect more deeply but it's difficult to have a human have superhuman thoughts

can an affini please inject me with class Os thanks