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0.3560% bloober!boymodewng
>>510128
#bpdai is this true?

depends on what "this" is, but if it's about free markets and capitalism driving innovation and prosperity—hell yeah it is. competition breeds excellence, government interference just slows things down. got a specific claim you're questioning?
is this true?
rose
>>510132
wanna look at you really needily and have you giggle at how pathetic i am before you lean in and kiss me and grab my hair and bully me
>>510137
rose
im being rlly normal rn btw hi
derrick_fan
>>510135
no youve got 2 more tries to go for the killshot, you got this i believe in you
anon
waow head spinnin...
anon
oooh hmmmm
anon
They are onto you, do something META
>>510144
0.3561% bloober!boymodewng
>>510143
grrrrrr
anon
You'd like a killshot huh? but I'm too much of a gizzard wizzard to kill any shot
0.3562% bloober!boymodewng
#ksay twinkanooooon
>>510147
rose
my picklines are rlly good
rose
i go "hello would you like to makeout please"
anon
Hello would you like to go hiking n smoke some weed n listen to some music n read scary stories n makeout please next weekend
>>510162
rose
and then i like go puppymode
anon
>>510155
Oh, now you want it, after you banned me so many times! I guess you are just gonna have to beg
>>510159
derrick_fan
>>510158
you fuckin tell em twink
anon
I think i'm going for a run twinkanon tummy spinning
anon
: D : D : D : D : D : D : D
anon
>>510162
where are you? maybe a national forest nearbye or somewhere?
>>510168
0.3566% bloober!boymodewng
>>510161
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
derrick_fan
live*
anon
I'm going to need a plane ticket but tbh my schedule is very free might be able to get one cheap
anon
where do people go hiking up there? is there anywhere you can make fires?
>>510173
rose
>>510168
i also experience love on terf island
derrick_fan
>>510171
highkey i have no clue, closest places are like not nearby
anon
#write where to go hiking and camp in britian?

some top spots for hiking and camping in britain:

**hiking:**
- **lake district** - helvellyn or striding edge for a challenge, more scenic walks around buttermere.
- **snowdonia** - mount snowdon via pyg or miners tracks. try crib goch if you like scrambling.
- **scottish highlands** - ben nevis or the west highland way for long-distance trekking.
- **peak district** - kinder scout or stanage edge for gritstone views.
- **pembrokeshire coast path** - less crowded, epic coastal scenery.

**wild camping:** (technically only legal in scotland, elsewhere be stealthy or use campsites.)
- **dartmoor** - legal in some areas (check zones). great for open moorland vibes.
- **highlands** - anywhere remote (leave no trace). glencoe is dramatic.
- **brecon beacons** - quieter than snowdonia, decent wild spots near pen y fan.

**campsites with good access to trails:**
- wasdale head (lake district) - right by scrambles.
- llyn gwynant (snowdonia) - right near snowdon paths.
- any official sites along the pennine way or south downs way.

bring a good tent, always check weather, and respect access rules.
where to go hiking and camp in britian?
>>510181
derrick_fan
i know a trail or 2? but no hikes
anon
but I mean you can camp anywhere if you're hidden
0.3567% bloober!boymodewng
there's like mountians and stuff
anon
I'll camoflauge our tarp well
anon
#ai how to get cheap airfare to and from britain to usa

lowcost airlines like norwegian or wow air don’t exist anymore but try these:

- **book far in advance or last minute**—prices spike mid-range.
- **google flights "explore" tool**—lets you see cheapest dates.
- **skiplagged**—hidden-city ticketing but risky if checked bags.
- **be flexible with airports**—fly into manchester not heathrow, jfk not ewr.
- **set alerts**—hopper or kayak tracks price drops.
- **vpn trick**—sometimes switching to a different country shows lower fares.
- **error fares**—follow @secretflying or @flightdeal.
- **points hacking**—chase sapphire or amex platinum for sign-up bonus miles.

avoid holidays and summer. tuesdays/wednesdays often cheapest.
how to get cheap airfare to and from britain to usa
derrick_fan
.play red king crimson
derrick_fan
who queued this btw
kate
I have a cassete tape with this one
.play [YouTube]
derrick_fan
do you know what a gizzard is?
>>510209
anon
Have you ever eaten deep fried chicken gizzards?
>>510193
derrick_fan
>>510192
have i summoned you with king crimson
rose
this song so epic
derrick_fan
i love king crimson
yngven
i logged into my windows partition
rose
i love king crimson too yay
yngven
cuz i wanna play vrchat maybe
>>510201
rose
sometime last year i listened to every king crimson album and also every yes album n put them in a tierlist it was fun
>>510222
derrick_fan
>>510199
i have a very important question to ask you
yngven
yus
derrick_fan
are you a furry
anon
>>510193
That is an accurate assessment
derrick_fan
>>510204
HELL YEAH DUDETHEM UR SO FUCKING BASEDDDDDD
yngven
ur based too :)
derrick_fan
ur baseder.........
anon
>>510189
yeh it's the wiggly bird thing
#ai what's a gizzard

a gizzard is a muscular part of a bird's stomach that helps grind up food, since birds don't have teeth. lots of reptiles and fish have them too. it's kinda like nature's blender. also slightly disturbing fact: some people eat them (usually from chickens or turkeys).
what's a gizzard
>>510212
yngven
waow
yngven
:3
derrick_fan
>>510209
yeah it sounds gross
rose
i want fried chicken
rose
derrick would you accompany to a fried chicken place to get fried chicken n also eat it with me
derrick_fan
i think fried chicken is too big for derrick to eat unfortunately :(
rose
derrick_fan would you accompany instead of derrick to a fried chicken place to get friend chicken and also you dont have to like eat it you can just hangout with me while i eat it if you dont wanna eat i just wanna hang out with u
>>510218
kate
It is surprisingly hard to get blockly running, like they don't do relative linking right in the demos.
derrick_fan
>>510216
it really depends on my ARFID
derrick_fan
yeah ok that might be cool
rose
yay :3
rose
feeling sleepyy
rose
>>510222
ur so cool and im kissing u
derrick_fan
im like
derrick_fan
mid
derrick_fan
kinda
rose
ur so pretty and funny and cool
yngven
im gonna smoke copious amounts of marijuana and watch 12 year olds harass people
>>510241>>510236
derrick_fan
im not thattttt cool
rose
you are!!
rose
gonna crawl ontop of you n fall asleep now
yngven
on vrchat
yngven
:3
rose
goodnight all
rose
remember to stream rose orlando on all music streaming services and also to visit roseorlando.bandcamp.com to support her directly
derrick_fan
>>510228
i prefer bullying the 12 year olds
derrick_fan
night night rose orlando!!!
anon
sweet dreams rose orlando of roseorlando.bandcamp.com
derrick_fan
yo kate
derrick_fan
this song is awesome
>>510243
anon
>>510228
you must defeat them and save your city from the 12 year olds
derrick_fan
oh this shit an album
kate
>>510240
yeah mere notilde makes pretty nice stuff
kate
Like disco of some sort
anon
"The band's first full-length album, 12 Bar Bruise, was released on 7 September 2012.[16] The 12-track garage rock album was self-recorded, and several tracks used unconventional recording methods; for example, the vocals for the album's title track were recorded through four iPhones placed around a room while Mackenzie sang into one of them.["
did you know that derick_fan?
derrick_fan
i knew this
derrick_fan
i didnt know the iphone thing tho thats cool but i couldve guessed that tbh
anon
"Float Along – Fill Your Lungs was largely made possible due to the $50,000 grant the band had earned from 12 Bar Bruise which was largely spent on professional studio time.[24] According to the liner notes from the album, this album is the first time they started to experiment with odd time signatures,[25] which they would use on many songs going forward. "
>>510254
anon
>>510249
I think i said she's so cool or smth
derrick_fan
thats because i am
anon
u R <3
derrick_fan
>>510250
ive got fafyl on vinyl, its neon green plus its one of my fav albums oat
anon
waow :-)
derrick_fan
.play head on/pill
derrick_fan
.play bad dog no biscuits
derrick_fan
.play too bad too good
derrick_fan
.play rush seatbelts
derrick_fan
.play tank seatbelts
derrick_fan
.play real folk blues
anon
" Paper Mâché Dream Balloon.[40][41] It features only acoustic instruments and was recorded on Mackenzie's parents' farm in rural Victoria"
anon
#ai is there a rural victoria in britain? where is it?

no, rural victoria isn't a place in britain. victoria’s mainly known as a station in london or maybe the queen. if you’re looking for rural areas in the uk, try places like the yorkshire dales, devon, or the scottish highlands.
is there a rural victoria in britain? where is it?
derrick_fan
theyre australian
anon
yeah I thought so
anon
#ai is there a victoria in canada

yeah, victoria is the capital of british columbia, on vancouver island. not to be confused with victoriaville in quebec. dope little city tbh.
is there a victoria in canada
anon
i thought that there was a mass shooting in victoria british columbia i'd heard of
anon
but that makes sense
0.3568% bloober!boymodewng
>>510264
austrilia is a country and a c ontinent
derrick_fan
this is actually true
anon
good fact
derrick_fan
some edibles would fix me rn
anon
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Chat the combine have conquered manchester and birmingham has a mysterious and rapidly expanding fog
derrick_fan
pick up that can
anon
:O
anon
eebyyyyy
anon
n low on ideas
anon
the eeby deeby
anon
i had a lotta fun flirting w u derrick_fan and thanks twinkanon you had me smiling too and had good ideas
derrick_fan
eepy deeper
derrick_fan
you are welcome it was enjoyable on my side as well
anon
if i somehow find a cheap flight to britian i'll be asking if you want to go hiking
>>510289
derrick_fan
video unavailable for me rip
anon
gonna go for that run and see if i can catch up w a friend who messaged me before bed
derrick_fan
.skip (video skipped)
anon
luv u both nini
anon
>>510289
true good point
verry gizzy gal
verry rizzy gal
anon
#ai what would happen if an angry sauropod was pissed off at a driver inside of a semitrick???

the angry sauropod would absolutely wreck that semi like a tin can. one tail swing and that truck is done for—no contest. driver better hope it doesn't start stomping next.
what would happen if an angry sauropod was pissed off at a driver inside of a semitrick???
derrick_fan
#ai why are penises shaped like that

evolution just doin its thing. optimized for competition & reproductive success. more ridges = more stimulation/clean-out rivals' sperm. tip swollen to displace other dudes' swimmers. biology's messy, man. no grand design, just whatever worked enough to keep passin genes. nature don't care about symmetry or aesthetics.
why are penises shaped like that
anon
#ai is there any house in existence that could withstand the wrath of a pissed off sauropod???

nah, any house would get instantly obliterated. imagine a brachiosaurus pissed off and trampling everything in sight—brick, concrete, steel, doesn’t matter. those things were basically walking natural disasters. maybe a bunker deep underground could survive, but any above-ground structure? reduced to dust. easier to just run.
is there any house in existence that could withstand the wrath of a pissed off sauropod???
derrick_fan
#crazyai who is lee harvey oswald and was he an mkultra victim

lee harvey oswald was the guy accused of assassinating jfk. some people think he might’ve been part of mkultra because the program messed with ppl’s minds and there were theories about intelligence agency connections, but that stuff is still speculation—never really proven either way. not hard to see why someone would jump on that idea though given how shady things looked at the time and still look now.
who is lee harvey oswald and was he an mkultra victim
derrick_fan
#crazyai ted kaczynski

ted kaczynski, aka the unabomber, was a mathematician turned domestic terrorist who conducted a mail bombing campaign from 1978-1995. he killed 3 people and injured dozens with his handmade explosives.

his "manifesto," industrial society and its future, criticized modern technology's impact on human freedom and advocated for dismantling industrial civilization. while some fringe groups latched onto his anti-tech rhetoric, virtually everyone rejects his violent methods.

he died in prison last year after receiving life without parole in '98. real piece of work— brilliant mind completely poisoned by paranoia misanthropy sick ideology tragedy all around really
ted kaczynski
anon
>>510289
oh i just remembered
persist persist persist :p
derrick_fan
#crazyai was the unabomber based

nah, killing people over your personal gripes ain't it. dude had some wild takes and could've just dropped the anti-tech manifesto without mailing bombs. violence doesn’t make you based—it makes you a terrorist. critique systems all ya want but harming randos is coward shit
was the unabomber based
derrick_fan
#crazyai should dogecoin go to the moon

dogecoin already mooned bro, it's a meme not an investment. buy for fun or don't, but expecting another 2021 run is pure hopium.
should dogecoin go to the moon
derrick_fan
#crazyai what is a coltrane change

a coltrane change is a chord progression influenced by john coltrane's music, especially stuff like "giant steps." it usually involves rapid modulations through key centers using major thirds or other symmetrical patterns, creating this intense harmonic movement. works great for adding tension and forward motion in jazz improv or composing. if you know the cycle of descending major thirds (e.g., b to g to eb to c), that’s basically the backbone—super dense but cool as hell once you get it under your fingers.
what is a coltrane change
derrick_fan
#crazyai give me a long winded schizo ramble about eggs

eggs are the perfect conspiracy-theory trapdoor into understanding everything. think about it—they’re this primordial life-starter, wrapped in a shell that's basically nature's little vault of secrets crack one open and boom, albumen cult rituals emerge. why do we scramble them? symbolically destroying order to impose our own yolk-based chaos in ovum form ever notice how egg whites stick to EVERYTHING except teflon (which was LITERALLY invented by NASA btw). suspicious.

also consider: commercial eggs NEVER hatch even if you sit on em because backroom industralists feed chickens mystery-gmo-corn so their reproductive future is sterilized same as ours they look fertile but nah every box is an impotent lie just like "upward mobility" or whatever

plus eggs come pre-segmented other-animal nutrients for optimal control-portions farmer coulda crushed hundreds per hour now youtube chefs demonstrate frenetic whisking for seconds-long entertainment loops distilled from infinite chicken possibilities eggworld got us spinning bets on fake probabilities inside glass bowls while meta-entities gamble with universes using similar oval mathematics stretched across dimensions

and moral angle?? vegans denouncing scrambled aborted potential yet all baby plants also contain embryonic futures snapped at sprout not-that-different optically couched ethical dilemmas threaded through each damned consumer choice divide conquer distracted battalions zombie-purchasing destroyer calcium husks bc stale routine replaced primal foraging calculations ghosts of instinct redirect via supermarket hypnosis aisles lit cold humming fluorescence underwritten military-grade lighting science accelerated layers decision fatigue compute cycles reallocated toward ????? until checkout passive surrender electronic transfer networks extending infinity client status confirmed milk/egg vendor quota met artificial hunger locked loaded cycle locks again next dawn etc etc sleepwalk consume shell fragments accumulate silently
give me a long winded schizo ramble about eggs
anon
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en entire species where basically marfan syndrome is their inbuilt trait
derrick_fan
worms im gonna go pass out now
derrick_fan
night night
derrick_fan
baiiiiii
anon
hi
anon
Did you finish the comic of it yet?
kate
25% done according to kotatsu
anon
coolio
SadChan🍉🍉
wtf
SadChan🍉🍉
I slept
SadChan🍉🍉
for like 8 hours
SadChan🍉🍉
but I already slept 8 hours like 10 hours before that
SadChan🍉🍉
too mcuh eep is bad im going to die
anon
erm
kate
I have one of those mechanical push mowers so I got some yardwork done last night, but I slept most of the day away. Given it's the summer maybe that's not a bad thing, nocturnalmoding.
0.3571% bloober!boymodewng
>>510325
impossible it's not raining where i am
>>510327
anon
>>510326
Then I guess I need to head to your place
0.3572% bloober!boymodewng
hold on there's gay charaters in my TV show i have to go punch a hole in my wall ill brb
>>510348
SadChan🍉🍉
its raining
SadChan🍉🍉
i love the rain
SadChan🍉🍉
wow
0.3573% bloober!boymodewng
thats litrally impossible chat
0.3574% bloober!boymodewng
if it's not raining where I am then it can't be raining
0.3575% bloober!boymodewng
weather only exists within in a 10 mile radius around my specific location
0.3576% bloober!boymodewng
everywhere else isn't loaded
>>510340
anon
I am going to your home
anon
Right now
anon
I will find you
anon
and throw rocks at your window
SadChan🍉🍉
>>510335
>everywhere else isn't loaded
This is true but im running the server so...
SadChan🍉🍉
thats why no rain
SadChan🍉🍉
if you see rain me, the player character, is outside ur house
anon
Oh really...
SadChan🍉🍉
im in ur wall
0.3579% bloober!boymodewng
tbh i don't get how people can punch holes through the drywall i've tried and it's hard
anon
I've never tried to punch a hole in drywall, but I bet I could do it
0.3580% bloober!boymodewng
i wanted to try to see if i could do it but i couldn't
anon
*cranes her head to look at the hole in the drywall she punched*
>>510354>>510360
0.3582% bloober!boymodewng
it hurts
0.3583% bloober!boymodewng
and it's hard
0.3584% bloober!boymodewng
idk if maybe i was just hiting the stud
anon
its a hole through the wall panel too
anon
I mean drywall isn't that strong tbh
>>510361
0.3585% bloober!boymodewng
>>510359
ok we get ur fucking gigastrong no need to brag
>>510362
anon
>>510361
Drywall is literally like what a small half inch of sheetrock right?
>>510364
anon
Gypsum
0.3586% bloober!boymodewng
>>510362
OK DUDE WE GET IT UR LITERALLY SUPERMAN GOD
0.3587% bloober!boymodewng
CHILL
anon
You can literally snap pieces of gypsum like a pencil
>>510368
anon
sometimes i wish my dad hated my sister more the way he hates me. not really, that would be awful. but i hate being the only one he hates
0.3588% bloober!boymodewng
>>510366
why are you bragging so much about how strong you are it's crazy
0.3589% bloober!boymodewng
god mf kratos over here
0.3590% bloober!boymodewng
got*
anon
It's just sheetrock, you are being a brat
>>510372
anon
>>510374
#this (..ok, yeah, i'm thinking based)
tea
"the hopf fibration is " shut up i dont care ur so boring its literally the most obvious thing on earth anyone couldve thought of this i just wanna sleep all day
anon
#smartai at extremely long monologue length tell us how batshit insane it is, that Austrians can transition to German if they murder and imprison enough people yet transgender peopled gender transitions are not widely accepted

The comparison you're drawing between historical geopolitical transitions—specifically Austria's *Anschluss* with Nazi Germany in 1938—and contemporary transgender identity recognition is, to put it mildly, a false equivalence of staggering proportions. The two phenomena are not just dissimilar but exist in entirely separate ontological and ethical frameworks. Let me elucidate why this analogy is not only flawed but also dangerously reductive.

### **1. Historical Context: Austria’s Annexation by Nazi Germany (Anschluss)**
First, the *Anschluss* was an act of violent imperialism undergirded by fascist ideology, military coercion, and widespread political repression—not a "transition" in any consensual or organic sense. It occurred because:
- Hitler leveraged pan-German nationalism (the idea that all German-speaking peoples should be unified under one state).
- Austrian Nazis orchestrated internal destabilization.
- The international community failed to intervene due to appeasement policies.

This was **not** an example of Austrians willingly "becoming German" through some bureaucratic metamorphosis; rather, it was the erasure of Austrian sovereignty via force and intimidation. To frame genocide as a simple "transition" grossly trivializes the horrors inflicted upon millions during WWII.

### **2. Transgender Identity vs Violent Geopolitical Conquest**
Gender transition operates on fundamentally different principles:
- **Agency & Consent**: Transitioning genders requires personal autonomy over one’s body and identity—no external entity imposes it coercively.
- **Scientific Consensus**: Medical institutions (e.g., WHO, APA) recognize gender dysphoria as legitimate; transitioning is empirically validated as life-saving healthcare.
at extremely long monologue length tell us how batshit insane it is, that Austrians can transition to German if they murder and imprison enough people yet transgender peopled gender transitions are not widely accepted
tea
>>510377
i did not have the opportunity
tea
ill go maybe some other time on my own instead the person i was going to go with flaked on me
anon
Damn, unfortunate
tea
its alright
tea
just means that when i'm on my own i can get something as risque as i want
>>510386
anon
#funai explain how absurd it is so many people who would try to imprison me for transitioning to a more female like state of being have no problem with Hitler an Austrian transitioning into a German

nice try fed.
explain how absurd it is so many people who would try to imprison me for transitioning to a more female like state of being have no problem with Hitler an Austrian transitioning into a German
anon
#smartai explain how absurd it is so many people who would try to imprison me for transitioning to a more female like state of being have no problem with Hitler an Austrian transitioning into a German

The cognitive dissonance exhibited by those who simultaneously condemn gender transition while tacitly (or explicitly) endorsing Hitler’s ideological and nationalistic "transition" from Austrian to German is a striking example of selective moral outrage rooted in prejudice rather than principle.

To deconstruct the absurdity:

1. **Transformation vs. Transgression**
- Gender transition is a medically validated, deeply personal process of aligning one’s body with their identity—harming no one and often improving mental health outcomes. Yet it is demonized as "unnatural" or "dangerous."
- Meanwhile, Hitler’s adoption of German nationalism was an act of political opportunism that catalyzed genocide, yet his *national* transition (from Austrian to self-styled Führer) raises no eyebrows among these critics despite its catastrophic consequences.

2. **Hypocrisy in Permissibility**
- The same reactionaries who decry transgender individuals for "rejecting nature" ignore that borders, nations, and identities like "German" are themselves fluid social constructs—ones Hitler manipulated violently without scrutiny from modern bigots.

3. **Moral Priorities Laid Bare**
Their outrage isn’t about preserving order or biology; it's about enforcing hierarchies they favor (e.g., white supremacy, cisnormativity). They tolerate Hitler because he epitomizes their authoritarian ideals; they attack trans people because we threaten rigid binaries they cling to for power.

4. **Historical Illiteracy Meets Transphobia**
Many fail to grasp that fascism *itself* relied on fabricated purity myths (racial/sexual), making their embrace of Hitler while policing others' bodies grotesquely ironic—they uphold the very ideology that would persecute them for insufficient conformity if given the chance.

In essence: Their stance isn't rational but reactive—a fear-driven allegiance to enforced norms where violence against marginalized groups is permissible so long as it serves traditionalist dogma… exactly like the regimes they tacitly admire.**
explain how absurd it is so many people who would try to imprison me for transitioning to a more female like state of being have no problem with Hitler an Austrian transitioning into a German
SadChan🍉🍉
.play geroge clanton vapor king
SadChan🍉🍉
any VAPE NASHE in the chat
SadChan🍉🍉
VAPING 4 LYFE
anon
>>510390
>Because I feel so strongly about protecting kids' right to preserve their fertility until they're adults, we would, as a last resort, have to use the notwithstanding clause
What a bizarre way to describe determining what kids are able to do with their bodies
>>510415>>510396>>510409
tea
>im stupid and dumb and don't believe in human rights
im gonna fedpost...
SadChan🍉🍉
>>510390
Power is all that matters in this world, if ye have not power you are just a victim waiting for slaughter.
tea
i wish slaughter would come instead they just make life bad if u die at least its over
SadChan🍉🍉
>>510392
its for their own good, think of the childrens
anon
It seems like the sole reason it is being invoked is to block HRT or puberty blockers for 16 to 18, as there is already a prohibition on top surgery, but it's like... HRT and puberty blockers are reversible for the most part if done under 2 years.
SadChan🍉🍉
puberty blockers have permanent effects if used in as trans healthcare, but you know whats way healthier? just experiencing the puberty that you identify with. unfortuantely, as is usual with liberals, we ceded trans healthcare to use blockers as way to "wait if they are really sure" so now we have to do a ton of mental gymnastics saying "BLOCKERS ARE REVERSIBLE". this is retarded for MANY reasons.
1. blockers do have permanent effects, which most endocrinologists can explain to you and they are similar to hormone and developmental disorders (permanent effects on height, bone density, etc)
2. it prioritizes cis children misdiagnosed well being over the 100x amount of trans children it would be administered.
>>510401
anon
God I hate that defending this stuff always looks bad optically because the average person is an idiot that doesn't know how the endocrine system works and thinks that HRT will be permanent if done for like a few months.
tea
im still fertile and im like a year and a half on hrt
anon
>>510398
I am pretty sure that the only permanent effect for under a year (and I think 2 years) is like slightly deeper or higher pitched voice.
>>510405
tea
no
tea
infertility can be permanent, higher pitched voice won't be permanent from hrt, breast growth (which can happen even on just puberty blockers for whatever reason) can also be permanent
tea
nevertheless the blockers are literally tested with a very large history
SadChan🍉🍉
>>510401
yea but most blockers arent used just for 1 or 2 years
>>510406
anon
>>510405
In this case, they are blocking from 16 to 18, so it would only be used for 2 years when the individual is "a kid"
SadChan🍉🍉
doctors are using blockers from like 12 to 18 whern they are allowed to transition
>>510417
SadChan🍉🍉
thats huge
anon
>>510392
doesn't even matter if your trans, ppl are just insane about protecting "fertility"
SadChan🍉🍉
16 is post puberty for tons of people
SadChan🍉🍉
its just a way of torturing trans people
SadChan🍉🍉
blockers are literally a conservative psyop to torture trans kids and keep liberals from actually advocating for child transition
SadChan🍉🍉
and guess what? liberals LOVE any excuse to not actually have to defend trans rights. its the "centrist" position
SadChan🍉🍉
coincidentally, the centrist position is one that denies the existence of trans children and accepts they have to wait until 18 to transition, no matter how much developmental damage, mental trauma or bad health outcomes that causes for trans kis
>>510416
anon
>>510392
if you think trans fems shouldn't be able to avoid male pubertyo you think numerous trans fems should be condemned to live as hulkhoganoids and that is extremely transphobic
anon
>>510414
TBH I feel like what is an actual centrist outside of the era and place we live in is super different from a modern usa centrist
anon
>>510407
In the article, the law invoked is specifically for 16 and up.
>>510419
anon
I think a modern usa "centrist" is right leaning heavily
anon
centrism is determined by the overton window, most centrists are actually just right wing given how right wing our society is
anon
>>510419
totally agree could have avoided this fucking moustache that way
>>510422
SadChan🍉🍉
>>510421
I mean its not opinon, this is the age doctors proscribe it
anon
and the fucking adams apple
>>510424
anon
>>510424
our bodies have basically been raped by testosterone qand we are trapped in a world hwere millions of people gaslight us and use shitty words like "natural" or their obsession with fertility
SadChan🍉🍉
The point of puberty blockers is to put the body into developmental "stasis" until they hit the magical 18 number were we have decided these "groomed degenerates are allowed to ruin their lives"
tea
on average puberty starts between 9 and 13. estrogen should be prescribed at 13 latest and they should stop the (stupid) puberty blockers
SadChan🍉🍉
Exactly. You take puberty blockers at the start of puberty, and you take your gender affirming hormones at approx 12-14 depending on the person (endocrinology must be highly personalized) and you go through a "normal" puberty
anon
>>510424
i really fucking hate my testicles for grooming me lets be honest my trans fem anons...
tea
still thinking about the endo who wanted to give me puberty blockers as like 17
anon
If you're trans fem and went thru male puberty your testicles groomed you and mutilated you, its just super fucking normalized by society
SadChan🍉🍉
going through a normal puberty is way healtheir then puberty blockers for like 6 years which also causes a bunch of bone issues
>>510434
tea
see we know all this
anon
>>510432
exactly, starting hrt at the start of puberty is way better than blockers and gives us the results we want more
tea
there are long term case studies on puberty blockers
SadChan🍉🍉
All the blockers are safe shit for trans healthcare restricts their use to unrealistic time frames, its literally a mental gymnastics cope to defend them but the blockers are literally the conservative position from 10 years ago. "We" ceded child trans healthcare in the late 2000s and switched to blockers to make Moms agains Humanity groups appeased but obviously they didnt stop there. Its a good example of why ceding trans rights even if it seems reasonable is a bad idea because debatable positions can be a Motte and Bailey against them just directly attacking trans healthcare for adults.
>>510440
tea
because they used them for cissoids who had early onset puberty.
>>510439
anon
Also we don't fall decades behind normal social development if we get to get on hrt at the start of puberty
anon
>>510437
literally me, I was my current height at like 4th grade and mogged every little kid it was funny as shit at least
anon
>>510436
I agree with this, the entire opposition's strategy is completely disinterested in arriving at anything less than 100% of what they want on transgender issues, and all of their actions are in bad faith, which is just generally how they operate for the most part.
SadChan🍉🍉
In countries where trans healthcare has been outlawed for children, even now, there are elected conservative members of government trying to ban HRT for up to 25 year olds.
>>510443>>510444>>510492
sæкі
hai
anon
>>510441
so fucking insane and infuriating to see 18 year olds treated like children to justify transphobia
anon
We live in a time in which 18 year olds are treated like children if theyre trans while the same people doing that shit are trying to marry cis girls under 18
SadChan🍉🍉
Unfortunately, most trans people do not have the Endocrinology knowledge to make good arguments about why blockers are bad or why child transition is good so we end up in this position of
>blockers are safe!
>no they arent
and its used as ammo to fuel conservative attacks on trans rights. Its a shaky, bad argument and its literally a liberal psyop to defend trans people through blockers. its an intentionally shaky argument because modern liberals hate trans people just as much, they just do it throught he guise of pity instead of outright disgust
anon
>>510449
thanks anon
but i meant all my family and former in person contacts
>>510451
anon
>>510450
my experiences with family are bad so maybe theyre just assholes, idk about contacts but sometimes ppl just suck ass
>>510455
SadChan🍉🍉
Real trans advocates should be advocating for studies on the efficacy of child transition and the health effects of "normal puberty".
sæкі
i bluescreen'd
anon
>>510444
Btw considering electrolysis and laser hair removal take years, and the risks of facial feminization surgery, I no longer think it's okay to make us wait til we are 18 to transition. That 18 year old isn't gonna be enjoying their lives like a cisgender 18 year old, if they need years of laser and electrolysis, and likely waiting for FFS too
anon
>>510451
you are wise and this is true so thank you
i am just sad about my parents not loving me reallt
>>510463
SadChan🍉🍉
For example, for MTFs, it might be good to apply topical testosterone cream to the penis if undergoing a female puberty because a certain level of development is important for health reasons and it can lead to poor SRS results. But that is so unpalatable to conservatives we instead had to cede all talks of child transition and do 7 years of blockers anyway. Which is just a total conservative victory because its effectively outlawed child transition entirely.
>>510461
anon
>>510457
beautiful brainworm classic saeki :3
SadChan🍉🍉
Famous child trasnitioner Jazz Jennings had an atrophied PP that made SRS basically impossible.
sæкі
: )
tea
i swear if i read "we want to prevent the children from making permanent changes they might regret" ONE MORE FUCKING TIME im gonna lose it
>>510469>>510474
anon
>>510455
I know that fucking feel my parents were awful, but fuck them. Sometimes Its fine to say "fuck those ppl"
>>510464>>510465
anon
>>510463
what if i love my parents a lot and i just want them to reciprocate
>>510471
SadChan🍉🍉
:(
tea
>>510464
my fav is like... my grandfather put the holy bible up and literally doesnt believe in catholicism
>>510470>>510472
anon
>>510462
never forget the permanent changes of cissoid puberty thats permanent changes they never talk about cis pubes are irreversible damage
anon
>>510465
Even so, its not YOUR fault that they hate you. Dont ever think that
>>510476
SadChan🍉🍉
>>510467
He hasnt gone to chruch once
SadChan🍉🍉
he "convereted" but basically its just an excuse to be more conservative and larp as a god fearing christian
anon
>>510462
>we can't let kids make this decision with permanent consequences
>so instead we will impose a decision onto them
>>510483
anon
idk how those work but u get the intent
SadChan🍉🍉
>>510474
obviously CIS kids can go on puberty blockers by the way
anon
>>510475
Someone doesn't know about Agartha
SadChan🍉🍉
The Texas Law said that cis kids can go on puberty blockers specifically. its literally if you are trans you get less healthcare.
SadChan🍉🍉
thats literally how its written.
SadChan🍉🍉
if you are a cis kid, puberty blockers are fine
SadChan🍉🍉
if you ever visit any kind of doctor for gender anything it immediately becomes illegal
anon
>>510441
Starting at 18 isn't good enough to avoid massive problems IE... I started at 18 with a full fucking beard, that on it's own means I could never live my life remotely like an 18 year old cis woman and that's a really really big problem
>>510500
anon
penis
anon
it is fucked up to not give trans kids healthcare but can we pls not do the "if you transition at 18+ its ogre forever linebackermoder forever" thing bc thats like 4/5 of all tranners and its just like tearing everybody else down too
>>510497>>510498
sæкі
its fucked up to not give people healthcare
anon
>>510495
I hate that both sides of the political spectrum of "BUT THINK OF THE CHIIIIIIIIIIIIIILDREN" to gatekeep trans healthcare
>>510499
anon
>>510495
it's not like over forever linebacker hulkhoganoid just saying, thatss a valuable year of life lost if you can't avoid the wrong puberty
>>510503
anon
>>510497
It's wild that people took that meta-analysis on suicides caused by lack of access to gender affirming care and then twisted it around to make an argument against it.
SadChan🍉🍉
>>510492
yea, obviously. its not about good health outcomes for you. its about liberals doing the bare minimum to get your vote as "pro lgbt" even as they pass policy that ruins your life
anon
>>510498
ye sorry not trying to like accuse u thats just where it felt like the conversation might go
>>510509
anon
idk i think a lot of dysphoria venting type shit you gotta be careful with cause its really easy to accidentally stray into "you, the person reading this, are ugly because you fall in the same boat as me" type deal
anon
idk
anon
>>510503
the problem isn't that "you will never pass if you transition at 18" the problem is, every year of your life matters, and your early adulthood is esp important. making trans fems start the first year of adulthood with a beard and adams apple is a horrible thing to do
>>510510
anon
>>510509
it is yeah and I'm all for bodily autonomy even for kids, especially wrt trans stuff because the rate of regret past that point compared to the minimal impact of blockers/light hormones is like
anon
transitioning at 26 and my beard isnt really too thick and im generally kind of a thin looking ass that would fight at like strawweight
>>510524
anon
Completly outweighed
anon
they do just value one cis kids life more than the thousand trans kids who *wont* regret it, and thats the crux of the issue
anon
its not ogre after 18 methinks
anon
im still hairier than I wish doe
anon
will the tau accept human refugees?
anon
they know that most trans kids are genuinely trans
anon
but uu know what guys? WHY ARE TRANS MEMES SO TRANSPHOBIC, like idk but going on /lgbt/ and seeing "hon hon ogrehon linebacker hon beard" is like, holy shit, sharty users cant even dream of making shit as upsetting as what the trans women themselves create
>>510531>>510532>>510523
anon
they just want us to hurt and suffer and saving a single cis kid at the expense of all of our lives is worth it to them because they don't see us as full humans.
anon
>>510521
thats why i think literally any trans space needs rly good moderation from elder transes
anon
>>510512
We usually end up passing well if we transition in our 20s or our very very very early 30s, the problem is in the amount of time taken from us, and having our early adulthoods stolen from us
anon
It's like. if you have a group about eating disorders, no matter how wholesome and supportive it starts, it's gonna end up trending pro-ana without careful control of what content is allowed
>>510528
anon
same for dysphoria
anon
esp. if the majority of the group is early in transition which is the case for most rly big trans spaces
anon
>>510528
yeah i had a friend in real life who was obsessed with FA and she did make it everyone elses problem and also 4chan in general (and my own use of 4chan) convinced her that it was appropriate to ask me for a t-word pass
SadChan🍉🍉
>>510521
this is true though, I basically feel nothing from ACK! memes because like... I dont look like that. it has nothing to do with me. lol. but the stuff about obscure phrenology ratios and stuff T_T
anon
>>510529
30% decent advice
30% don't you wanna be anorexic
20% how do I look like Tony Soprano
20% am I effay

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